Then we come back to a question I previously asked of from both the relgious & scientific amongst us....

"where did the gases come from", & in your case, "Where did the thin air come from"

Generally speaking - if you happen to know.

According to Albert Einstein's theory of Relativity (probably the latter of the two, around 1915 or 1916), the properties of an object can only be indirectly measured from an observer's point of view.

Which means that if you try measuring the weight of an elementary particle, the process in which you are trying to measure its weight will be affected by the means of the measuring process itself.

So, if we are trying to "imagine" something - in which way do we eventually know for sure that something is definitely correct or incorrect? Even our thinking or imaging process could be supposed to be affecting or influencing the desired result.

Is this what is meant with the Werner Heisenberg's "Uncertainty Principle"?

Meaning that there are some things which can not be correctly measured because the measuring process itself is affecting or inflicting on the desired result?

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle and http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/uncer.html for more on this.

Historically, the uncertainty principle has been confused with a somewhat similar effect in physics, called the observer effect, which notes that measurements of certain systems cannot be made without affecting the systems. Heisenberg himself offered such an observer effect at the quantum level (see below) as a physical "explanation" of quantum uncertainty.[4] However, it has since become clear that quantum uncertainty is inherent in the properties of all wave-like systems, and that it arises in quantum mechanics simply due to the matter wave nature of all quantum objects. Thus, the uncertainty principle actually states a fundamental property of quantum systems, and is not a statement about the observational success of current technology.

A question for both Intelligent Design as well as guido.man here:

First, most of the Bible is not specifically telling about or giving particular references to God, but rather is about other people, including Jesus Christ, of course, as well as their living environment, both historically, culturally and so on.

Secondly, when whe try exploring something and take something into consideration, we always try referencing something we think or know something about against something else which we also is supposed to know something about.

Things on their own does not solve problems most of the time, they need to be put into a context and be compared with something similar or different in order to be understood or verified.

Math and the Bible are of course two different subjects, they hardly relate to each one at all. But both subjects are part of a bigger context, one perhaps more important than the other.

I do not think one is more important then the other. It is my belief that they complement, completes or brings to perfection each other.

And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.

"Galadriel:" wrote:

And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.

"Galadriel:" wrote:

And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.

ROFLMAO! Coming from someone who maintains that the bible is fact, quoting a statement from a work of fiction..... I love it.

"Galadriel:" wrote:

And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.

ROFLMAO! Coming from someone who maintains that the bible is fact, quoting a statement from a work of fiction..... I love it.

Sirus, that statement makes perfect sense considering who posted it.

AND in the context of who wrote that work of fiction...