China - Is she getting frisky?

WWIII is more likely to start in the Middle east than anywhere else, and will probably involve Israel somewhere.

I think the middle east is just a side show. Iran is a paper tiger doing what Moscow tells it. Russia is a paper tiger also, So what they have nukes. As soon as you use nukes you lose. Iran knows that also.

If Russia does try to take Europe I think Poland and Germany would put one big hurt on them. Remember Russian equipment didnt fair to well during both gulf wars.

Turkey is the wild card in the middle east. They didnt like Iraq on the border I dont think they like Iran much either.

I do agree China is the threat. There will come a day that she will flex her muscle over Taiwan and those islands up near Japan. What isnt widely known is Japan has been increasing the size of its navy according to Sea Classic magazine.

Dont short change the US Navy. Unless Congress starts gutting the Navy, We have more than enough to handle China.
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Nice reply James. However, you're forgetting history. Trueman gave the orders for the bombs to be dropped on Japan due to the unacceptable losses an invasion of Japan would entail.

As with all wars past, present & based on current military assets, future, it will take boots on the ground to end a war.

The US ground forces are not a viable option to take on China. Also, should they get bogged down in a ground war, will the US population accept that - those pictures & videos we saw daily throughout the 60's & early 70's of not just the war in Vietnam, but those of the US homefront.

Now magnify that a 100 fold.

Will America accept that?
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First off why do we have to invade China with boots on the ground. We do what did to Japan in WW2 cut off the oil and raw materials and they wither and die.

And dont forget the predators we have, A nice force multiplier.

I sure hope we dont have to duke it out with China, The losses on both sides would be terrible.

And I blame the politicians for selling our debt to China. What the hell were they thinking. That is what will be the tipping point. When China says hey by the way were cashing in your bonds.
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Good points but you're totally underestimating the Chinese...big mistake.

Oh & those predators? Operated from the US by Satellites? What happens to those when those Sat's are blown away?

Will the Navy venture into the South China Sea with Chinese Nuclear subs in the area?

While the US is securing the oil in the Middle East, what do you do if China expands into the Pacific a la Imperial Japan?

Is China "really" attempting a Moonshot just to enter the "belated" Space Race or have they some ulterior motive? If ulterior motive ends up proven, will the US bring the Shuttles out of mothballs?

You're dealing with the "Middle Kingdom" where they see everyone else on the planet as pawns on a chessboard - & that is a scary proposition!
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Good point about the satelites. I had forgot they blew one up. I dont underestamate China. Scares the hell out of me. All the world has beat a path to the cheap labour with high tech gadgets. what they cant build they steal. And they arent just copiers either. They can innovate.

your point about the space program is very valid. Here we are leaving space and China is going into space. And my guess its not for the knowledge its for the military advantage.

As far as us trying to secure oil in the middle east while confronting China. I dont buy it. Europe has a lot more to lose in the short term then the US. You wont sit on the sidelines when you get whacked by an oil embargo either.
Thats why we have the strategic reserve, And why every President does not want to release any of it to offset gas prices.
Also dont forget we have reserves of oil ourselves. Granted not enough to keep our outlandish style of living. But enough to keep us in the fight.
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Again an excellent reply. However as to regards Europe, forget it. By the time all the "committees/quangos" decide to fight, it'll be too late for the simple fact is that as Afganistan is proving, Nato as a whole is proving ineffective!

Do you really think that the Eurocrats will allow another "Eisenhower" to command the European forces? Or for that matter, a hardcore general like "Patton" to press on & finish the job in a short a time as possible?

Personally, I feel that European Forces will never be able to be as cohesive as they were in WWII.
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I like the new(old soviet through Ukraine) Chinese aircraft carrier. Sadly, they've forgotten that they have no planes capable of takeoffs or landings on this boat.

Perhaps I should restate. China now has a nice new flat top boat. Perhaps they can use it to ship containers from one country to another while it builds a plane for it

Again an excellent reply. However as to regards Europe, forget it. By the time all the "committees/quangos" decide to fight, it'll be too late for the simple fact is that as Afganistan is proving, Nato as a whole is proving ineffective!

Do you really think that the Eurocrats will allow another "Eisenhower" to command the European forces? Or for that matter, a hardcore general like "Patton" to press on & finish the job in a short a time as possible?

Personally, I feel that European Forces will never be able to be as cohesive as they were in WWII.

I like the new(old soviet through Ukraine) Chinese aircraft carrier. Sadly, they've forgotten that they have no planes capable of takeoffs or landings on this boat.

Perhaps I should restate. China now has a nice new flat top boat. Perhaps they can use it to ship containers from one country to another while it builds a plane for it

Underestimaing China I see.

Tell me, do you know the story of "Billy Mitchell"? Wasn't he castigated & ignored for condeming the Navy for continuing to pour funds into building Battleships when the future was land & sea based air power?

Didn't HMS Repulse & HMS Prince of Wales prove him correct?

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Many in the South disagreed with DeValera & thought, had Hitler won, he would've moved on Ireland which was ideally positioned as an Atlantic Base.

Sirius, Is Europe really getting that fragmented?
And why does it have to be an American general to lead?

I think you will find, When the time comes you will act as one for the common good.

So far, no Chinese reply/comment on this state of affairs: -

North & South Korea on verge, states NK Official

Was China aware of all this, hence the rush to get their "Blue Water" forces up to strength?

Should they do so, & the Korean game kicks off, where will the US stand?
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So far, no Chinese reply/comment on this state of affairs: -

North & South Korea on verge, states NK Official

Was China aware of all this, hence the rush to get their "Blue Water" forces up to strength?

Should they do so, & the Korean game kicks off, where will the US stand?

Ok, probably a very silly question. At one point in the past, Russia supported NK and the USA supported SK. A major escalation could have meant WWIII. What if anything is the difference now?

Ok, probably a very silly question. At one point in the past, Russia supported NK and the USA supported SK. A major escalation could have meant WWIII. What if anything is the difference now?

China Came in on the side of N.Korea also, and kicked the US toops back to the sea. My Father in law was one of them. My dads brother (KIA) was another, but he was down south near Pusan.

I think China is the key. I dont know how well China has this new leader on a leash. He cant be as crazy as his father was, I hope. maybe China can slowly moderate the behavior of N.Korea.
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