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Message 1224287 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 7:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 1224069.

Holy bovine, Batman! It's been over 28-3/4 hours since the last post in the Panic Mode thread. Can things possibly be that right with the world???


I want more AP-tasks for my ATI :-))
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Message 1224308 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 9:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 1224287.

Holy bovine, Batman! It's been over 28-3/4 hours since the last post in the Panic Mode thread. Can things possibly be that right with the world???


I want more AP-tasks for my ATI :-))


I want more credit per task. 1 million for an AP, and 100K for a normal MB.
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Message 1224326 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 10:50:49 UTC

I don't really give a rat's petoot what cred I get for a particular WU.
It all evens out.


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Message 1224356 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 13:14:31 UTC

Well panics over, time for rational descision taking is here.

As of today all projects on both my rigs are on NNT, my caches will be cleared and I will then disconnect from the projects I have joined.

There is no way on my limited resources I can sustain electricity bill on the order of £243 per qtr and continue to sustain my normal activities like eating and paying for accomodation and other utilities..

Something has to give and it has to relate to power usage..

Prior bills were in the order of £113 per qtr... Seems 2 rigs working 24/7 eat a load of juice, too much in fact..

Regards to All, and best wishes..

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Message 1224396 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 14:42:34 UTC

Sorry to hear Cliff.

Why not just reduce to 12 hours of crunching.
Or just 1 rig or what ever.

Would be sad to loose you because of bills.

Just my penny.

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Message 1224484 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 17:53:45 UTC

I am going to take myself down to GPU only work on my 3 machines, it should stay fairly close to my same RAC after I burn through the current allocated CPU WU's.
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Message 1224488 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 18:02:05 UTC

I have just ordered one of these. It will solve all my electricity problems for the rest of my life:

KUBE X-15
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Message 1224524 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 19:05:38 UTC - in response to Message 1224488.

I have just ordered one of these. It will solve all my electricity problems for the rest of my life:

KUBE X-15


Well if you need more fuel, come to west cumbria and go for a walk down the beach,
or visit one of the many nuclear waste dumps that we have, many more are in the pipeline, including the national reserve
Who needs windturbines :¬((

By the way Sten, we are down to only 98 AP 5 on the SSP, are you going to be ok . . . .

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Message 1224534 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 19:18:19 UTC - in response to Message 1224524.

I have just ordered one of these. It will solve all my electricity problems for the rest of my life:

KUBE X-15


Well if you need more fuel, come to west cumbria and go for a walk down the beach,
or visit one of the many nuclear waste dumps that we have, many more are in the pipeline, including the national reserve
Who needs windturbines :¬((

By the way Sten, we are down to only 98 AP 5 on the SSP, are you going to be ok . . . .


I think 50 years worth of fuel, will last me to the end of my life, so I will not need any more :-)

AP's, heck I haven't seen any AP505 for weeks. I have no other choice than to run MB, until I can install the opt V7 and opt AP 6 at the same time. As I have said before, I refuse to install only AP6. I can wait, my computers can wait, and I spend time on running Beta too.
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Message 1224547 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 20:09:16 UTC - in response to Message 1224396.

Sorry to hear Cliff.

Why not just reduce to 12 hours of crunching.
Or just 1 rig or what ever.

Would be sad to loose you because of bills.

Just my penny.


I'm on pension, so I really have to cut back, there is no way I can afford to have another bill even close to the present one.

I'll have to see what I can do, after its paid off and if I can afford to run even 1 rig for as long as 12 hours.

If I can afford to sometime I'll be back:-)

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Message 1224616 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 22:55:50 UTC - in response to Message 1224547.

Sorry to hear Cliff.

Why not just reduce to 12 hours of crunching.
Or just 1 rig or what ever.

Would be sad to loose you because of bills.

Just my penny.


I'm on pension, so I really have to cut back, there is no way I can afford to have another bill even close to the present one.

I'll have to see what I can do, after its paid off and if I can afford to run even 1 rig for as long as 12 hours.

If I can afford to sometime I'll be back:-)

Regards,


Have you considered running only CPU tasks through your preferences page?
GPUs use a lot of power. Your rac would dive to 7 thousand odd, and you'd retain an interest in the community message boards. Quality of Lifestyle is the important thing, not how many seti toasters you earn.

Cheers.

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Message 1224624 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 23:14:35 UTC - in response to Message 1224616.

Have you considered running only CPU tasks through your preferences page?
GPUs use a lot of power. Your rac would dive to 7 thousand odd, and you'd retain an interest in the community message boards. Quality of Lifestyle is the important thing, not how many seti toasters you earn.

Cheers.

I completely agree. Well said.

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Message 1224627 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 23:18:44 UTC - in response to Message 1224524.
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We are down to only 98 AP 5 on the SSP, are you going to be ok . . . .

4 AP's tapes are been split. The thing I'd like to know is where are they? There's none in ready to send & only 95 Results out in the field as of 28 Apr 2012 23:10:06 UTC with a creation rate of 0 per second. Traffics at just over 94MB a sec
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Message 1224631 - Posted: 28 Apr 2012, 23:31:11 UTC - in response to Message 1224627.

We are down to only 98 AP 5 on the SSP, are you going to be ok . . . .

4 AP's tapes are been split. The thing I'd like to know is where are they? There's none in ready to send & only 95 Results out in the field as of 28 Apr 2012 23:10:06 UTC with a creation rate of 0 per second. Traffics at just over 94MB a sec

It's because the Server Status page hasn't been re-written. It only shows the last dregs of the v505 run. I hope that is a deliberate decision - those 95 tasks in no way account for the 12,501 tasks awaiting validation. So, let's wait until they drop to zero [pssst - nobody tell the staff, please], and then we can send the cleaning crew into the database and get those lost results safely rounded up.

Then, and only then, it'll be time to update the SSP so we can monitor the AP v6 progress.

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Message 1224649 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 0:37:21 UTC - in response to Message 1224631.

We are down to only 98 AP 5 on the SSP, are you going to be ok . . . .

4 AP's tapes are been split. The thing I'd like to know is where are they? There's none in ready to send & only 95 Results out in the field as of 28 Apr 2012 23:10:06 UTC with a creation rate of 0 per second. Traffics at just over 94MB a sec

It's because the Server Status page hasn't been re-written. It only shows the last dregs of the v505 run. I hope that is a deliberate decision - those 95 tasks in no way account for the 12,501 tasks awaiting validation. So, let's wait until they drop to zero [pssst - nobody tell the staff, please], and then we can send the cleaning crew into the database and get those lost results safely rounded up.

Then, and only then, it'll be time to update the SSP so we can monitor the AP v6 progress.

You always make so much sense. Thank you!

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Message 1224657 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 0:48:07 UTC - in response to Message 1224547.

Cliff,just turn 1 on for an hour or so a week and stay on the message boards.

Sorry to see you go ,I'm sure you'll be back occasionally.

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Message 1224700 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 2:37:06 UTC - in response to Message 1224356.

Well panics over, time for rational descision taking is here.

As of today all projects on both my rigs are on NNT, my caches will be cleared and I will then disconnect from the projects I have joined.

There is no way on my limited resources I can sustain electricity bill on the order of £243 per qtr and continue to sustain my normal activities like eating and paying for accomodation and other utilities..

Something has to give and it has to relate to power usage..

Prior bills were in the order of £113 per qtr... Seems 2 rigs working 24/7 eat a load of juice, too much in fact..

Regards to All, and best wishes..


Oi! What happened to "Boinc IS my hobby"?:) I loved that line!

Ok, ok, I know, the electricity bill... Well those GPUs alone must be burning at least 400W. Probably closer to 600W. Would you leave half a dozen 100W light-bulbs on 24/7? Do you even have 100W light bulbs anymore?

It sounds like Boinc is costing you around 40 quid a month. To be honest, with those 2 PCs you've got I imagined it would be more (but that's another story). Maybe you could ask yourself how much you are willing to spend on your favorite hobby. If the answer is "nil", fair enough. If the answer is "a fiver", then you've got a ton of options: You could sell off the GPUs. You could sell off one of the PCs. You could sell off both the desktops and get a nice laptop ( I love crunching on my little laptop). You could keep everything and (like others have mentioned) use only the CPUs "between the hours of ... and ..." in your settings. But whatever you do, please don't go on a diet of Tesco Value Beans for the rest of your life:)

Or maybe Eric can help put things into perspective:
Back in 1999 we were aiming at 150 hours for the jobs that now take 2 (and do more processing.) When we were starting to do Astropulse, we were aiming for jobs taking a month.


It's not a race.

Any number of credits, no matter how small, is "infinitely" greater than zero, right?:)

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Message 1224766 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 4:54:39 UTC - in response to Message 1224631.

We are down to only 98 AP 5 on the SSP, are you going to be ok . . . .

4 AP's tapes are been split. The thing I'd like to know is where are they? There's none in ready to send & only 95 Results out in the field as of 28 Apr 2012 23:10:06 UTC with a creation rate of 0 per second. Traffics at just over 94MB a sec

It's because the Server Status page hasn't been re-written. It only shows the last dregs of the v505 run. I hope that is a deliberate decision - those 95 tasks in no way account for the 12,501 tasks awaiting validation. So, let's wait until they drop to zero [pssst - nobody tell the staff, please], and then we can send the cleaning crew into the database and get those lost results safely rounded up.

Then, and only then, it'll be time to update the SSP so we can monitor the AP v6 progress.

Thanks for explaining Richard
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Message 1224791 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 6:48:41 UTC - in response to Message 1224616.

[. Quality of Lifestyle is the important thing, not how many seti toasters you earn.

Cheers.

Uhh, I have yet to get my toaster.

Maybe they are having it sent out to be gold plated........
Or Dr. Anderson is perfecting the timer.
ROFL.
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Message 1224836 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 10:19:17 UTC
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Over the past days (two to three weeks actually) I've encountered an awfully slow download of WU's. I'm using BOINC 7.0.25 right now, but before 6.0.12.34 was the same. I've got now dozens of WU's in the queue and the first 20 or so are in varying degrees of download. Every now and then, it downloads another few KB before stopping again. Manually updating brings almost no change, with perhaps 5 to 20KB download and then falling silent again.

I checked the Cricket graph and saw that it is almost constantly at full load, but I wondered whether anyone else has encountered this worse-than-modem speed over an extended period of time recently?

Or perhaps has anyone a tip for getting a more reliable DL of WU's?

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