"Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6"

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Mr. Kevvy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 336 Credit: 37,967,467 RAC: 76,265	Message 1218450 - Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 22:47:55 UTC Last modified: 14 Apr 2012, 22:49:33 UTC
I realize that this is because I'm using the Lunatics platform and the AP 6.01 app. doesn't have an installer that adds the relevant entries into app_info.xml; it's just an EXE and DLL that get dropped into \Application Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu. What I have in app_info.xml for 5.05 is: </app> <file_info> <name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <file_ref> <file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> If I just copy this block in app_info.xml and adjust for 6.01 accordingly will this work? I'd rather ask first just to avoid breaking anything. :^) (Also surprised that this isn't in the app.'s ZIP or a forum post there or here...) Thanks. ____________ “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7669 Credit: 40,241,402 RAC: 21,563	Message 1218478 - Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 23:48:00 UTC - in response to Message 1218450.
NO: that ancient r409 application is not capable of producing correct results for Astropulse v6 tasks. You will need the r555 or r557 applications to process the new work: both are backwards-compatible with any v505 work you may still have cached. Better yet, the Lunatics v0.40 unified installer contains both of those AP v6-compatible apps, and will build you an app_info.xml file to support those apps (in both v6 and v505 mode), plus any other apps you need. If you have any other special needs not covered by the installer, please explain what they are. I realize that this is because I'm using the Lunatics platform and the AP 6.01 app. doesn't have an installer that adds the relevant entries into app_info.xml; it's just an EXE and DLL that get dropped into \Application Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu. What I have in app_info.xml for 5.05 is: </app> <file_info> <name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <file_ref> <file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> If I just copy this block in app_info.xml and adjust for 6.01 accordingly will this work? I'd rather ask first just to avoid breaking anything. :^) (Also surprised that this isn't in the app.'s ZIP or a forum post there or here...) Thanks.
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Mr. Kevvy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 336 Credit: 37,967,467 RAC: 76,265	Message 1218508 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 0:27:24 UTC Last modified: 15 Apr 2012, 0:29:36 UTC
Thanks for the reply... I installed the latest unified installer and it updated app_info.xml and BOINC no longer complains about the missing 6.01 app. The problem, or why I didn't install 0.40 already: It appears that the Lunatics download page needs an update: 1 - Windows Seti@Home apps - The current Berkeley stock application version is 6.03 for multibeam and 5.05 for astropulse. (emphasis mine) Similary, the Windows app. page linked from the above indicates 5.05. However, when it's installed, it indicates 6.01 instead (and, its version of libfftw3f-3.dll is more recent than the version in the stand-alone AP 6.01... so what purpose does the standalone serve?) Hope this helps. ____________ “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7669 Credit: 40,241,402 RAC: 21,563	Message 1218512 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 0:35:13 UTC - in response to Message 1218508.
Thanks for the reply... I installed the latest unified installer and it updated app_info.xml and BOINC no longer complains about the missing 6.01 app. The problem, or why I didn't install 0.40 already: It appears that the Lunatics download page needs an update: 1 - Windows Seti@Home apps - The current Berkeley stock application version is 6.03 for multibeam and 5.05 for astropulse. (emphasis mine) Similary, the Windows app. page linked from the above indicates 5.05. However, when it's installed, it indicates 6.01 instead (and, its version of libfftw3f-3.dll is more recent than the version in the stand-alone AP 6.01... so what purpose does the standalone serve?) Hope this helps. Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, I don't have the necessary permissions to maintain that part of the website, but I'll pass on your observations.
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Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 3968 Credit: 937,375 RAC: 148	Message 1218580 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 3:41:55 UTC - in response to Message 1218508.
Thanks for the reply... I installed the latest unified installer and it updated app_info.xml and BOINC no longer complains about the missing 6.01 app. The problem, or why I didn't install 0.40 already: It appears that the Lunatics download page needs an update: 1 - Windows Seti@Home apps - The current Berkeley stock application version is 6.03 for multibeam and 5.05 for astropulse. (emphasis mine) Similary, the Windows app. page linked from the above indicates 5.05. However, when it's installed, it indicates 6.01 instead (and, its version of libfftw3f-3.dll is more recent than the version in the stand-alone AP 6.01... so what purpose does the standalone serve?) Hope this helps. Indeed it did, and should you or anyone else notice other misleading descriptions, etc., please do pass them on. I've edited the incorrect version info you noted and removed the 5.05 AP standalone packages. The 6.01 AP standalones would be useful to someone who had a considerably modified app_info.xml or who prefers to only do AP work, so I left them in place but accompanied by a note that they're also in the installer. The libfftw3f-3.dll in the installer is actually the same file as in the standalone r555 package, but the file date was accidentally changed. The subversion repository system doesn't preserve dates by default on checked out files, that's the most likely culprit. Joe
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Mr. Kevvy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 336 Credit: 37,967,467 RAC: 76,265	Message 1218710 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 14:10:25 UTC
Excellent... glad that I posted this then and thanks for the reply. And, of course, thanks for all the work on the Lunatics platform from the team. It's an amazing piece of work. ____________ “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8970 Credit: 37,740,868 RAC: 42,687	Message 1218716 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 14:28:53 UTC - in response to Message 1218710.
don't forget that you are responsible for updates and upgrades to your 3rd party apps. In the near future seti will be moving to the v7 multibeam app. Be sure to check in routinely because the Lunatics guys will be introducing their v7 apps at that time as well ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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Mr. Kevvy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 336 Credit: 37,967,467 RAC: 76,265	Message 1218747 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 15:58:24 UTC Last modified: 15 Apr 2012, 15:58:49 UTC
I've tried several times over the course of years to register at Lunatics to get on a mailing list so I know when there are updates (is there one?) but: Sorry, registration is currently disabled. ____________ “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead
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arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3148 Credit: 41,332,837 RAC: 34,603	Message 1218756 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 16:35:27 UTC - in response to Message 1218747.
I've tried several times over the course of years to register at Lunatics to get on a mailing list so I know when there are updates (is there one?) but: Sorry, registration is currently disabled. No mailing list, but there is an RSS feed. http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15 ____________
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8970 Credit: 37,740,868 RAC: 42,687	Message 1218775 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 17:15:07 UTC - in response to Message 1218756.
It wouldn't hurt to just look here. We are the second site to know when the apps are ready. They always announce the updates, whats changed, and how to install the updates right here. ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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I realize that this is because I'm using the Lunatics platform and the AP 6.01 app. doesn't have an installer that adds the relevant entries into app_info.xml; it's just an EXE and DLL that get dropped into \Application Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu.

What I have in app_info.xml for 5.05 is:

</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

If I just copy this block in app_info.xml and adjust for 6.01 accordingly will this work? I'd rather ask first just to avoid breaking anything. :^) (Also surprised that this isn't in the app.'s ZIP or a forum post there or here...) Thanks.
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“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.”
--- Margaret Mead

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Richard Haselgrove

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NO: that ancient r409 application is not capable of producing correct results for Astropulse v6 tasks.

You will need the r555 or r557 applications to process the new work: both are backwards-compatible with any v505 work you may still have cached.

Better yet, the Lunatics v0.40 unified installer contains both of those AP v6-compatible apps, and will build you an app_info.xml file to support those apps (in both v6 and v505 mode), plus any other apps you need.

If you have any other special needs not covered by the installer, please explain what they are.

I realize that this is because I'm using the Lunatics platform and the AP 6.01 app. doesn't have an installer that adds the relevant entries into app_info.xml; it's just an EXE and DLL that get dropped into \Application Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu.

What I have in app_info.xml for 5.05 is:

</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

If I just copy this block in app_info.xml and adjust for 6.01 accordingly will this work? I'd rather ask first just to avoid breaking anything. :^) (Also surprised that this isn't in the app.'s ZIP or a forum post there or here...) Thanks.

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Thanks for the reply... I installed the latest unified installer and it updated app_info.xml and BOINC no longer complains about the missing 6.01 app.

The problem, or why I didn't install 0.40 already: It appears that the Lunatics download page needs an update:

1 - Windows Seti@Home apps - The current Berkeley stock application version is 6.03 for multibeam and 5.05 for astropulse.

(emphasis mine)

Similary, the Windows app. page linked from the above indicates 5.05. However, when it's installed, it indicates 6.01 instead (and, its version of libfftw3f-3.dll is more recent than the version in the stand-alone AP 6.01... so what purpose does the standalone serve?)

Hope this helps.
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--- Margaret Mead

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Richard Haselgrove

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Thanks for the reply... I installed the latest unified installer and it updated app_info.xml and BOINC no longer complains about the missing 6.01 app.

The problem, or why I didn't install 0.40 already: It appears that the Lunatics download page needs an update:

1 - Windows Seti@Home apps - The current Berkeley stock application version is 6.03 for multibeam and 5.05 for astropulse.
(emphasis mine)

Similary, the Windows app. page linked from the above indicates 5.05. However, when it's installed, it indicates 6.01 instead (and, its version of libfftw3f-3.dll is more recent than the version in the stand-alone AP 6.01... so what purpose does the standalone serve?)

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, I don't have the necessary permissions to maintain that part of the website, but I'll pass on your observations.

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Josef W. Segur

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Thanks for the reply... I installed the latest unified installer and it updated app_info.xml and BOINC no longer complains about the missing 6.01 app.

The problem, or why I didn't install 0.40 already: It appears that the Lunatics download page needs an update:

1 - Windows Seti@Home apps - The current Berkeley stock application version is 6.03 for multibeam and 5.05 for astropulse.
(emphasis mine)

Similary, the Windows app. page linked from the above indicates 5.05. However, when it's installed, it indicates 6.01 instead (and, its version of libfftw3f-3.dll is more recent than the version in the stand-alone AP 6.01... so what purpose does the standalone serve?)

Hope this helps.

Indeed it did, and should you or anyone else notice other misleading descriptions, etc., please do pass them on. I've edited the incorrect version info you noted and removed the 5.05 AP standalone packages. The 6.01 AP standalones would be useful to someone who had a considerably modified app_info.xml or who prefers to only do AP work, so I left them in place but accompanied by a note that they're also in the installer.

The libfftw3f-3.dll in the installer is actually the same file as in the standalone r555 package, but the file date was accidentally changed. The subversion repository system doesn't preserve dates by default on checked out files, that's the most likely culprit.

Joe

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Excellent... glad that I posted this then and thanks for the reply.
And, of course, thanks for all the work on the Lunatics platform from the team. It's an amazing piece of work.
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--- Margaret Mead

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don't forget that you are responsible for updates and upgrades to your 3rd party apps. In the near future seti will be moving to the v7 multibeam app. Be sure to check in routinely because the Lunatics guys will be introducing their v7 apps at that time as well
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I've tried several times over the course of years to register at Lunatics to get on a mailing list so I know when there are updates (is there one?) but:

Sorry, registration is currently disabled.

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I've tried several times over the course of years to register at Lunatics to get on a mailing list so I know when there are updates (is there one?) but:

Sorry, registration is currently disabled.

No mailing list, but there is an RSS feed.
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?action=.xml;type=rss;sa=news;limit=15;board=15
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It wouldn't hurt to just look here. We are the second site to know when the apps are ready. They always announce the updates, whats changed, and how to install the updates right here.
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