Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects, Environment, etc part III

No, there were studies in the 60's indicating that increased CO2 was having an effect. Think smog in CA.

And there have been studies, rejected at the time, that the greenhouse effect was increasing back in the 1930's.

You two are beginning to sound like the Republican supporters in the US. Elderly white and stuck in your beliefs.

Poppycock! White yes, but older, wiser, and still remembering the time when the world was run a damn sight better that it is now. Stuck in our beliefs? Not at all, more a case of standing by ones principles. Yes we know global warming is happening, witness the lack of arctic summer ice this year, and other measurements. But it is not happening at the rate that a lot of people say it is.

As an ex OU man myself (S102, T102, M205) what take did the put on it?

Bad news sells newspapers, always has done, always will do.

Hrrrumph!

So, when the North Atlantic currents (Gulf Stream) stops flowing, and the UK and the near continent starts to cool (same latitude ad Newfoundland and Moscow). Then winter will set in, and, on the same scare mongering prediction as the warmists, within 100 years we will have permanent 9-10 month winters, and start to starve as crop growing cycles are too short...

No, there were studies in the 60's indicating that increased CO2 was having an effect. Think smog in CA.

And there have been studies, rejected at the time, that the greenhouse effect was increasing back in the 1930's.

Todays UK daily Express

Todays UK daily Express ...

... There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."...

... There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."...

Did it happen? No. Why should anyone listen to chicken little?

The CO2 is rising ... The CO2 is rising ... The CO2 is rising ...

Just plain obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that the models that call for this have serious significant errors in them, or garbage inputs are being applied, or BOTH!

... There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."...

Did it happen? ...

How about an actual peer reviewed paper?
Expert credibility in climate change

and Everything you need to know about climate change - interactive

If you are still a climate change denier you are on the wrong side of history and the consequences are too devastating to ignore.

The same people that ran a huge campaign to confuse the issue on whether smoking is safe on behalf of the tobacco industry are at work here, this time working for the oil companies.
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... There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."...

Did it happen? ...

Yes it has..

... There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."...

Did it happen? ...

Yes it has..

10 foot rise in sea level happened?

... There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."...

Did it happen? ...

Yes it has..

10 foot rise in sea level happened?

Rather than wild goose chase silly out of context glib silliness, can you get real?

How about an actual peer reviewed paper?
Expert credibility in climate change

and Everything you need to know about climate change - interactive

If you are still a climate change denier you are on the wrong side of history and the consequences are too devastating to ignore.

The same people that ran a huge campaign to confuse the issue on whether smoking is safe on behalf of the tobacco industry are at work here, this time working for the oil companies.

How about an actual peer reviewed paper?
Expert credibility in climate change

First, though the degree of contextual, political, epistemological, and cultural influences in determining who counts as an expert and who is credible remains debated, many scholars acknowledge the need to identify credible experts and account for expert opinion in technical (e.g., science-based) decision-making

I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

How about an actual peer reviewed paper?
Expert credibility in climate change

First, though the degree of contextual, political, epistemological, and cultural influences in determining who counts as an expert and who is credible remains debated, many scholars acknowledge the need to identify credible experts and account for expert opinion in technical (e.g., science-based) decision-making

Such a shock. Pro global warming publications publish lots of pro global warming articles. Therefor we conclude that man caused global warming is true.

I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

Man caused global warming may be true, but this isn't an argument for it. A stupid decision made by millions of scientists, is still a stupid decision.

Listen to yourself. You're not even making sense anymore.

Listen to yourself. You're not even making sense anymore.

It isn't an argument. A good editor should have ...