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Message 1216276 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 20:55:15 UTC
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Rom Walton wrote:
The next version of BOINC is now ready for public use. Check the release notes and version history for details.

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http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

Let the games begin. :P
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Message 1216291 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 21:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 1216276.

What's the best way to do the upgrade? Uninstall 6x then install 7 or install right over 6x or can/will it be installed along with 6x (have both installed)?
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Message 1216300 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 21:41:42 UTC
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In my opinion the tasks in progress could be a problem, especially when it comes to BOINC Manager as a whole, not Seti@home alone.

Except for possibly Astropulse, the Seti@home tasks are having short running times. But when it comes to some of the tasks belonging to ClimatePrediction and PrimeGrid, some of these tasks could become very long in duration.

I am not too happy to kill off a 500+ hour ClimatePrediction task after 350 hours of running or a 350 hour Seventeen or Bust PrimeGrid tasks after 200 hours of running just because a new version of the software (in this case, BM) is available.

Also the file and directory structure being used by the software should not be forgotten. It too soon may become a mess, particularly if a crash should occur and you were able to recover what you lost (plus the rest of it).

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Message 1216301 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 21:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 1216291.
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You can install 7 directly over 6.

However, due to changes to how client_state.xml is written to, once you have gone over to 7, you cannot return to 6 without getting problems.

Then you set No New Tasks under BOINC 7.0, run all work to end, upload & report it. Then uninstall 7.0, delete client_state.xml and client_state_prev.xml from your BOINC Data directory, reinstall BOINC 6.x, set Allow new tasks.
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Message 1216305 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 21:59:38 UTC

Works all okay with the optimized lunatics apps?
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Message 1216313 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 22:22:03 UTC

Is there a deadline for running BOINC 6 ? Just wondering when we have to go to 7.
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Message 1216315 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 22:26:30 UTC - in response to Message 1216313.

Is there a deadline for running BOINC 6 ? Just wondering when we have to go to 7.

I don't think that there'll be a deadline. I'm still using BOINC 5!

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Message 1216316 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 22:34:36 UTC - in response to Message 1216315.

Is there a deadline for running BOINC 6 ? Just wondering when we have to go to 7.

I don't think that there'll be a deadline. I'm still using BOINC 5!

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Thanks, I Guess I will let the bugs get worked out on 7 for a while then:)
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Message 1216318 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 22:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 1216305.

Works all okay with the optimized lunatics apps?

I have no problems with them and BOINC 7.0.25
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Message 1216320 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 22:50:43 UTC

Strange, new BOINC throws away all my GPU work:
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | No usable GPUs found
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | Einstein@Home | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | SETI@home | Missing coprocessor for task 02ja12aa.4116.21442.5.10.93_1
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.25)

I have GF9800GT (266.58 driver version) with lunatics optimised apps for S@H...
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Message 1216323 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 22:59:34 UTC - in response to Message 1216320.
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Strange, new BOINC throws away all my GPU work:
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | No usable GPUs found
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | Einstein@Home | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | SETI@home | Missing coprocessor for task 02ja12aa.4116.21442.5.10.93_1
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.25)

I have GF9800GT (266.58 driver version) with lunatics optimised apps for S@H...

Do you happen to have a service/protected application execution installation?

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Message 1216325 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 23:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 1216323.
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Strange, new BOINC throws away all my GPU work:
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | No usable GPUs found
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | Einstein@Home | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | SETI@home | Missing coprocessor for task 02ja12aa.4116.21442.5.10.93_1
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.25)

I have GF9800GT (266.58 driver version) with lunatics optimised apps for S@H...

Do you happen to have a service/protected application execution installation?

Claggy


Yes, it's service installation. I'm with WinXP.
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Message 1216327 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 23:03:19 UTC - in response to Message 1216325.

Strange, new BOINC throws away all my GPU work:
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | No usable GPUs found
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | Einstein@Home | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | SETI@home | Missing coprocessor for task 02ja12aa.4116.21442.5.10.93_1
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.25)

I have GF9800GT (266.58 driver version) with lunatics optimised apps for S@H...

Do you happen to have a service/protected application execution installation?

Claggy


Yes, it's service installation. I'm with WinXP.

From Boinc 6.12.38 onwards:

client: Disable GPU detection of Windows when running as a service to avoid a deadlock condition with the latest ATI drivers.

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Message 1216328 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 23:05:30 UTC - in response to Message 1216327.

Strange, new BOINC throws away all my GPU work:
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | No usable GPUs found
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | Einstein@Home | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | SETI@home | Missing coprocessor for task 02ja12aa.4116.21442.5.10.93_1
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.25)

I have GF9800GT (266.58 driver version) with lunatics optimised apps for S@H...

Do you happen to have a service/protected application execution installation?

Claggy


Yes, it's service installation. I'm with WinXP.

From Boinc 6.12.38 onwards:

client: Disable GPU detection of Windows when running as a service to avoid a deadlock condition with the latest ATI drivers.

Claggy


Thanks, do you have any idea how to change BOINC installation?
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Message 1216330 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 23:08:35 UTC - in response to Message 1216328.
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Strange, new BOINC throws away all my GPU work:
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | No usable GPUs found
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | Einstein@Home | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | SETI@home | Missing coprocessor for task 02ja12aa.4116.21442.5.10.93_1
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.25)

I have GF9800GT (266.58 driver version) with lunatics optimised apps for S@H...

Do you happen to have a service/protected application execution installation?

Claggy


Yes, it's service installation. I'm with WinXP.

From Boinc 6.12.38 onwards:

client: Disable GPU detection of Windows when running as a service to avoid a deadlock condition with the latest ATI drivers.

Claggy


Thanks, do you have any idea how to change BOINC installation?

Uninstall Boinc, then reinstall and on the Boinc configuration page, click Advanced, and untick Protected application execution, then run through the rest of the installation as normal.
(I'm not sure if you have to reboot, or have stop the service after uninstalling Boinc)

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Message 1216331 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 23:08:38 UTC - in response to Message 1216305.

Works all okay with the optimized lunatics apps?

For those running anonymous platform without <flops> in the app_info.xml there's a possible issue. The <dont_use_dcf> feature implemented in changeset [25477] will eventually get turned on when the project's server code is updated to version 7. If an uneasy truce has been achieved with DCF greatly different than 1.0, runtime estimates will change greatly for a host running the BOINC 7.0 client.

The applicable checkin_note was added the next day:
David 22 Mar 2012 - client/server: add optional <dont_use_dcf/> to schedule reply. If set, client won't use DCF for this project. Make this the default in server code; we now do runtime estimation entirely on the server side, and the client-side mechanism is counterproductive.


The "optional" isn't very much so, the project would have to edit /boinc/sched/sched_types.cpp to not send it.

This is just a heads-up for those who might be affected, the server-side estimates of runtime have ignored DCF for more than a year.
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Message 1216339 - Posted: 9 Apr 2012, 23:17:38 UTC - in response to Message 1216330.

Strange, new BOINC throws away all my GPU work:
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | No usable GPUs found
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | Einstein@Home | Application uses missing CUDA GPU
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | SETI@home | Missing coprocessor for task 02ja12aa.4116.21442.5.10.93_1
10.04.2012 01:42:03 | | Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.25)

I have GF9800GT (266.58 driver version) with lunatics optimised apps for S@H...

Do you happen to have a service/protected application execution installation?

Claggy


Yes, it's service installation. I'm with WinXP.

From Boinc 6.12.38 onwards:

client: Disable GPU detection of Windows when running as a service to avoid a deadlock condition with the latest ATI drivers.

Claggy


Thanks, do you have any idea how to change BOINC installation?

Uninstall Boinc, then reinstall and on the Boinc configuration page, click Advanced, and untick Protected application execution, then run through the rest of the installation as normal.
(I'm not sure if you have to reboot, or have stop the service after uninstalling Boinc)

Claggy


It's working now, without reboot (just stopped BOINC service), thank you!
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Message 1216390 - Posted: 10 Apr 2012, 0:51:31 UTC - in response to Message 1216331.

For those running anonymous platform without <flops> in the app_info.xml there's a possible issue.


What would be the formula for AP NV and MB NV?
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Message 1216467 - Posted: 10 Apr 2012, 2:27:35 UTC

Will this run on Windows 8 or still need to use the 6.12.38 version?

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Message 1216471 - Posted: 10 Apr 2012, 2:36:38 UTC - in response to Message 1216467.

I am running it on 32-bit.
there may still be problems on 64-bit

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