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Message 1214708 - Posted: 6 Apr 2012, 18:48:36 UTC

Here the link to GPU AP rev560 with improved response times on BOINC exit/suspend request.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60381958/AP6_r560_GPU.7z

Don't forget to change executable file name in your app_info files.
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Message 1214718 - Posted: 6 Apr 2012, 19:17:46 UTC
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I am on it.

Both here and at Beta.

I got my first Mixed Beta task completed.
First 97% done with .r555 and the last part with .r560
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=10732282
Just hope it will validate. It will ;)
Is V6 V6.01 V6.02 compatible???

I saw the ap tapes are started again.
Lets hope I catch 1 or 2 tasks.

Is it ok to run this on Beta as well?


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Message 1214767 - Posted: 6 Apr 2012, 21:12:29 UTC - in response to Message 1214718.  

Sure it compatible, for what else I would post it? ;)
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Message 1214778 - Posted: 6 Apr 2012, 21:29:06 UTC

Is this version intended to be used by anybody or is it only for SetiBeta?

If it's public, can we have an example of the Nvidia app_info for this new app version? Is the issue with CPU usage on new NV drivers solved? Are the .cl and .dll files needed for NV?

mmm... Can I have an easter egg? :D


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Message 1214784 - Posted: 6 Apr 2012, 21:42:12 UTC - in response to Message 1214778.  
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Is this version intended to be used by anybody or is it only for SetiBeta?

If it's public, can we have an example of the Nvidia app_info for this new app version? Is the issue with CPU usage on new NV drivers solved? Are the .cl and .dll files needed for NV?

mmm... Can I have an easter egg? :D



Copy the .exe .cl and the .dll files to your c:\ProgramData\Boinc\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu
folder.
It works on both Beta and here on Main.


I think this is White and with a yellow core.
GPU only app_info.xml

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AP6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r560.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>601</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>CUDA</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 10 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_r560.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<flops>30987654321</flops>
</app_version>
</app_info>
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Message 1214859 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 0:37:17 UTC - in response to Message 1214784.  

Copy the .exe .cl and the .dll files to your c:\ProgramData\Boinc\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu
folder.
It works on both Beta and here on Main.

I think this is White and with a yellow core.
GPU only app_info.xml //...


Thanks! I've installed it and everything seems ok (but, I had to see what happens when it gets work).

The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)
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Message 1215036 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 8:11:12 UTC - in response to Message 1214859.  

Copy the .exe .cl and the .dll files to your c:\ProgramData\Boinc\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu
folder.
It works on both Beta and here on Main.

I think this is White and with a yellow core.
GPU only app_info.xml //...


Thanks! I've installed it and everything seems ok (but, I had to see what happens when it gets work).

The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)



I don't have the perfect answer for your question.

But here at lunatics they have a thread about drivers that is pretty big.
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/12-gpu-crunching/latest-nvidiadriver-and-cudaversion.0.html

Here is a link if you want to read some.

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Message 1215086 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 12:31:55 UTC - in response to Message 1214859.  
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The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)

270.xx and up suffer from excess CPU usage. AFAIK it still not fixed in latest drivers.
I use 263.xx for crunching with GTX250 and it goes very well.
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Message 1215111 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 1215086.  

The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)

270.xx and up suffer from excess CPU usage. AFAIK it still not fixed in latest drivers.
I use 263.xx for crunching with GTX250 and it goes very well.

So in other words, more testing/programing needs to be done with later drivers to get things right is what you are saying then?

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Message 1215115 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 1215111.  

The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)

270.xx and up suffer from excess CPU usage. AFAIK it still not fixed in latest drivers.
I use 263.xx for crunching with GTX250 and it goes very well.

So in other words, more testing/programing needs to be done with later drivers to get things right is what you are saying then?

Cheers.



I'd say if your current drivers are working fine.
Don't upgrade to anything newer here then 269.xx
NVIDIA still have some work to fix the CPU-Issue on their new drivers.
I'm thinking of downgrading my 296.10 to 266.58.


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Message 1215118 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:27:47 UTC - in response to Message 1215111.  

The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)

270.xx and up suffer from excess CPU usage. AFAIK it still not fixed in latest drivers.
I use 263.xx for crunching with GTX250 and it goes very well.

So in other words, more testing/programing needs to be done with later drivers to get things right is what you are saying then?

Cheers.

Can't say what needs to be done to resolve the high CPU usage issues, but the highest verison I've been able to go to is 267.24 (beta) without getting any issues

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Message 1215125 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:39:08 UTC - in response to Message 1215118.  
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I'll settle with just doing them only on my CPU's only until someone works out what the problem is and gets it 100% fixed before I even think about letting my GPU's have a go at them.

[edit] But that's what volunteer developers/testers are for isn't it? [/edit]

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Message 1215126 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:45:12 UTC - in response to Message 1215125.  

I'll settle with just doing them only on my CPU's only until someone works out what the problem is and gets it 100% fixed before I even think about letting my GPU's have a go at them.

[edit] But that's what volunteer developers/testers are for isn't it? [/edit]

Cheers.



I didn't know we tested stuff for NVIDIA here....

Are we?

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Message 1215127 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:45:13 UTC

I'm using 268,36 on my almost new notebook and have just finished the first AP, all went fine and the CPU use was rather low, mostly under 5%.

The Stderr output contains some stuff that I wonder about, is there something I should do or is that all normal info?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2387164861
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Message 1215131 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:53:10 UTC - in response to Message 1215086.  

The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)

270.xx and up suffer from excess CPU usage. AFAIK it still not fixed in latest drivers.
I use 263.xx for crunching with GTX250 and it goes very well.

What about using a GTX 680 when the only drivers are 301.10?

How high is "excessive CPU usage" as a % of a CPU on a 2.66GHz Core 2 Quad please?
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Message 1215134 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:57:06 UTC - in response to Message 1215127.  

I'm using 268,36 on my almost new notebook and have just finished the first AP, all went fine and the CPU use was rather low, mostly under 5%.

The Stderr output contains some stuff that I wonder about, is there something I should do or is that all normal info?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2387164861


Looks good.

Normal info.



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Message 1215135 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 14:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 1215131.  

The remaining doubt is about the Nvidia drivers, should I keep using the old 266.58 that was needed by the NV-r521 to not clog the CPUs?
(In fact, 266.58 is Ok and I have no reason to upgrade it, but one of my hosts has 2 560Ti's and the older driver for them is 266.66 which is said that has some issues...)

270.xx and up suffer from excess CPU usage. AFAIK it still not fixed in latest drivers.
I use 263.xx for crunching with GTX250 and it goes very well.

What about using a GTX 680 when the only drivers are 301.10?

How high is "excessive CPU usage" as a % of a CPU on a 2.66GHz Core 2 Quad please?


It will use a full core.
Thats why its called 100% CPU bug.

It took AMD almost 6 month to fix this bug so you will have to see how long it takes for nvidia to resolve this.





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Message 1215140 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 15:06:44 UTC - in response to Message 1215126.  

I'll settle with just doing them only on my CPU's only until someone works out what the problem is and gets it 100% fixed before I even think about letting my GPU's have a go at them.

[edit] But that's what volunteer developers/testers are for isn't it? [/edit]

Cheers.



I didn't know we tested stuff for NVIDIA here....

Are we?

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Did you read the title of this thread?

And where have you been otherwise lately?

Sorry but the answer yes and has been for quite some while now as both are Open CL based apps. ;)

Cheers.
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Message 1215155 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 16:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 1215127.  

JohnDK wrote:
I'm using 268,36 on my almost new notebook and have just finished the first AP, all went fine and the CPU use was rather low, mostly under 5%.

The Stderr output contains some stuff that I wonder about, is there something I should do or is that all normal info?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2387164861

As Mike said, that's normal output for the app. However, it does indicate that BOINC asked the app to exit 4 times. It did so cleanly and restarted from a checkpoint when BOINC told it to.

3 of those exit/restart cycles used the same checkpoint (at 24.32% progress), IOW BOINC did not let it run long enough to produce another checkpoint. That might suggest tuning some BOINC settings to be sure that kind of sequence doesn't happen too often. You could look in the BOINC messages around 49 minutes after the task first started to see why BOINC thought it needed to shut the task down.

AP processing is done in 111 large chunks, the OpenCL apps checkpoint at the beginning of each, so an exit/restart can cost 0.9009 percent progress at most. On average it would be half that, so the 4 exit/restarts during that task may have increased runtime about 1.8%. Definitely no reason to panic.
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Message 1215157 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 16:07:06 UTC - in response to Message 1215155.  

JohnDK wrote:
I'm using 268,36 on my almost new notebook and have just finished the first AP, all went fine and the CPU use was rather low, mostly under 5%.

The Stderr output contains some stuff that I wonder about, is there something I should do or is that all normal info?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2387164861

As Mike said, that's normal output for the app. However, it does indicate that BOINC asked the app to exit 4 times. It did so cleanly and restarted from a checkpoint when BOINC told it to.

3 of those exit/restart cycles used the same checkpoint (at 24.32% progress), IOW BOINC did not let it run long enough to produce another checkpoint. That might suggest tuning some BOINC settings to be sure that kind of sequence doesn't happen too often. You could look in the BOINC messages around 49 minutes after the task first started to see why BOINC thought it needed to shut the task down.

AP processing is done in 111 large chunks, the OpenCL apps checkpoint at the beginning of each, so an exit/restart can cost 0.9009 percent progress at most. On average it would be half that, so the 4 exit/restarts during that task may have increased runtime about 1.8%. Definitely no reason to panic.
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OK thanks. I think the restarts was done by myself :)
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