If there's a new release version of S@H client for BOINC, and it's supposed to be pushed out automatically, why is my system still using 4.05 and how do I upgrade? Do I need to reinstall BOINC or something to kick the update loose? C'mon folks... let's get this auto-update working!

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> If there's a new release version of S@H client for BOINC, and it's supposed to
> be pushed out automatically, why is my system still using 4.05 and how do I
> upgrade? Do I need to reinstall BOINC or something to kick the update loose?
> C'mon folks... let's get this auto-update working!
>

On my one PC machine it finally updated this morning...

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-Aardvark

> If there's a new release version of S@H client for BOINC, and it's supposed to
> be pushed out automatically, why is my system still using 4.05 and how do I
> upgrade? Do I need to reinstall BOINC or something to kick the update loose?
> C'mon folks... let's get this auto-update working!

Hi there,

Did you update the BOINC client to the latest version? This is a manual thing. SETI clients are only compatible with certain BOINC clients, and unfortunately, the version numbering got very confusing...

Just download the latest client (v4.13) and install over the top of the current BOINC client. IT will do an automatic upgrade, and hopefully, you will get the latest SETI cruncher too!

This is the download link: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

Hope ths helps!

Cheers, Nic.

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> On my one PC machine it finally updated this morning...
>
Hmm... 6 weeks after the new version was announced, you're just now upgraded, and I'm still using the "old" version. Wonder what's going on and why it's not upgrading?? I'd be interested to read what Matt L. or one of the other BOINC/S@H admins has to say....

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>
> Hi there,
>
> Did you update the BOINC client to the latest version? This is a manual
> thing. SETI clients are only compatible with certain BOINC clients, and
> unfortunately, the version numbering got very confusing...
>
> Just download the latest client (v4.13) and install over the top of the
> current BOINC client. IT will do an automatic upgrade, and hopefully, you
> will get the latest SETI cruncher too!
>
> This is the download link: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php
>
> Hope ths helps!
>
> Cheers, Nic.
>
Nic... I'm already using 4.13. Do you think I ought to re-install 4.13? If so, what's the point in having "auto-update" for the clients?

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> Nic... I'm already using 4.13. Do you think I ought to re-install 4.13?

No - I don't think this is necessary.

>If so,
> what's the point in having "auto-update" for the clients?

Okay - the two things are different...

BOINC is the client for Grid Computing in general, which can run many different projects. SETI is the client for the SETI project. The BOINC client allows projects (i.e. SETI) to automatically update the project client, but BOINC instelf does not.

So the question is why hasn't you SETI Client auto-updated?

To work around the problem, just reset the Project. In BOINC, select the projects TAB and them right-click on the SETI project, and click "Reset Project". This will cause all current work units and results to be discarded, and it will re-download the whole project including SETI4.07 Calc module.

Hopefully this will solve your problem, but may not give you all the answers you were looking for.

Cheers, Nic.

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Reset the project is a last possibility.
If you are using 4.13 BOINC "Manager" then you don't have to do anything manualy. As I understand you are using it. But you are using old 4.05 SETI@home cruncher / worker .exe file.
And the reason can be that you have a lot WU downloaded with this version of client and they should crunched with that version, 4.05. So one possibility is wait for finishing WU donwloaded for verion 4.05.
But!
Version 4.07 was released November 5th so it means that if you still have some WU to crunch with 4.05 version they will be finished after the dead line.
So reset the project as SwissNic recomends you is the righ solutions for you.
Anyway, in Work tab, Application column you have to see with which application will be WU crunched, maybe you have there alreay some for 4.07 and it measn that new application version is already downloaded.
I hope, you understnad the problematic now better.
Resume:
BOINC "Manager" (last release is 4.13) should be updated by hand, manualy, but cruncher application, worker, is updated automatically (SETI@home - last verzion is 4.07).

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> If there's a new release version of S@H client for BOINC, and it's supposed to
> be pushed out automatically, why is my system still using 4.05 and how do I
> upgrade? Do I need to reinstall BOINC or something to kick the update loose?
> C'mon folks... let's get this auto-update working!
>

Mr Maxx

Hopefully you haven't reset yet, doing that loses you credit, and holds up validation for anyone waiting on your work units.

You must still have some seti 4.05 units on your system, because none are available for downloading now; while you still have 4.05 units on your system, boinc will not acquire the new version of seti, until it's about to run out of work, at which point it should download the new cruncher (4.07), and some new WU's to suit.

If you have any 4.05 results still in progress, they must be mighty close to expiration now, because, seti 4.07 has been out for about two weeks already.

Hope this helps,

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Ken Phillips

BOINC question? Look here



"The beginning is the most important part of the work." - Plato

Mr Maxx has some WU's for his win comp....( see profile)
But there's been none for his Linux system
The one's he has got have got No-reply could the problem be his end?
(edit)
Assuming he is stiil using the 2 comps.

just a thought.

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> Hopefully you haven't reset yet, doing that loses you credit, and holds up
> validation for anyone waiting on your work units.
>
Nope. Wasn't really looking forward to that... :-)
>
> You must still have some seti 4.05 units on your system, because none are
> available for downloading now; while you still have 4.05 units on your system,
> boinc will not acquire the new version of seti, until it's about to run out of
> work, at which point it should download the new cruncher (4.07), and some new
> WU's to suit.
>
Ahh... yes. I probably do. I typically try to keep 7-10 days's worth of work units because of all the problems we have been having making connection to the BOINC server. Guess I ought to back off of that now, since things seem to be working better.
>
> If you have any 4.05 results still in progress, they must be mighty close to
> expiration now, because, seti 4.07 has been out for about two weeks already.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
Ok. Thanks. I think I'll go in and change my preferences to keep 3-5 days' worth of WUs on hand, instead of the 7-10 I have been keeping.

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Here's a question -- I looked at the WUs I have and a bunch of 'em are past the report deadline. What happens to those? Should I just reset the project and wipe 'em out (I'll lose a few that have been D/L'ed since then) or just wait for it to finish crunching them and start with the next batch?

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You have the "connect every x days" set to too high a value.

Once you finish crunching the 4.05 work units, BOINC will update the SETI app.

I think "4" is about as high as you want to go -- that caches 8 days work.

> If there's a new release version of S@H client for BOINC, and it's supposed to
> be pushed out automatically, why is my system still using 4.05 and how do I
> upgrade? Do I need to reinstall BOINC or something to kick the update loose?
> C'mon folks... let's get this auto-update working!
>

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The WUWUs that are past the deadline may or may not get credited, I looked at a couple of them and they have been crunched three times, so no credit for them.....

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

> Here's a question -- I looked at the WUs I have and a bunch of 'em are past
> the report deadline. What happens to those? Should I just reset the project
> and wipe 'em out (I'll lose a few that have been D/L'ed since then) or just
> wait for it to finish crunching them and start with the next batch?
>

Try using BoincView and you can abort the currently running WU if it shows in your Account Results table under Server State - "Over - No Reply - New". Of course don't abort any that show "In Progress" even if past deadline, you may still get credit for those if done before a third result is returned.

iF SET TO CHECK EVER 1 DAY YOU WILL HAVE BETWEEN 1 AND 2 DAYS OF WU'S.
THEORY
wHEN BOINC GETS TO 1 DAY YOU SHOULD GET ANOTHER DAY OF WU'S.

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Fred
BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

> So the question is why hasn't you SETI Client auto-updated?
>
> To work around the problem, just reset the Project. In BOINC, select the
> projects TAB and them right-click on the SETI project, and click "Reset
> Project". This will cause all current work units and results to be discarded,

This is bad advice. Resetting a project should be the last thing a person does to fix a problem, not the first thing.

trane

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