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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Head Scratcher #(n+1) Also ask: is there a small percentage that can drive, but do not, for whatever reason. Or, have you ever lost some of the supporting documents required to that card? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Guy, in addition to Sarge's explanation, you need to consider the response from some of your libertarian buddies to the imposition of questions from the 'blue hats'. Some of those folks might also run afoul of state election identification requirements. Actually, it's a hypothesis. So, I'm waiting to see if someone can suggest a reason why my idea about cutbacks makes sense, or if someone can support it. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
OK -- the two conditions that need to be met (in my view) are 1) Is the ID card available for free (you've answered that) 2) Are the requirements for meeting that card free and readily met by all citizens? [/quote] yes, it's free. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws [/quote] |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Not sure why -- might well have been one of those ploys by the Democrats as well. That being said, did you note the vote in the House on the modified Simpson/Boles plan this past week. Even with LESS revenue increases than the original plan (in an attempt to gain TeaPublican support), this bill went down to defeat by something like 390 to 35 (with more Democrats voting for this than TeaPublicans). The thing is, Simpson/Boles is the only serious proposal (although weakened by the reduced revenue increases) out there. The Ryan budget envisions major increases in the deficit, and revenue cuts (tax cuts without any definite cuts in tax entitlements (deductions) ). That dog won't hunt either. Head scratcher #(n+1) |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Guy, then if item 2 isn't readily met, the requirement can be in effect, a poll tax. The issue there is that allow the requirements to slowly move up over time and the legislation can filter out an increasing segment of the population. So far some states (particularly in the south) have seemed to want to use this requirement to move toward the exclusionary poll tax approach that was tossed in the 50's. When they avoid this, there is no problem. As to multiple voting -- doesn't work that way, if you vote at the polls, there is a check off -- and handled by both parties by the way -- to reduce duplicate voting at the polls. At least that is the way it works here in Arizona, (not a particularly liberal state). The thing is, for me, I vote by mail -- quite simple. My wife votes at the polls and since our neighbor across the street is the Republican monitor, she (my wife) doesn't need to show any ID (we've lived here for over 30 years). I don't want voter fraud either, though I'd note, vote *error* is significantly larger than voter fraud as an issue. OK -- the two conditions that need to be met (in my view) are |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Head Scratcher #(n+1) Several state governments... Several is not ALL. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
texas and the other states that are bullying the poor are looking at having the laws repealed. I really don't see any use for voter cards. Most states require a photo ID of one form or another on your person at all times. Why even bother with the voter card. Just use the ID/Drivers license. No added cost to the card and you already have it in your pocket. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/coke-caves-face-democratic-boycott-threat/444346 or a tattooed number? Sorry should butt in on an American thread, but couldn't hold my tounge. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
texas and the other states that are bullying the poor are looking at having the laws repealed. Driver's licenses and non-driver ID cards are generally not free, and to my knowledge, not required to be held by all individuals of voting age. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
... in the current news. In the US employer paid health insurance, not health care as only the US military does that, began during WWII because of wage and price controls. As wages were frozen health insurance was an uncontrolled incentive to hire on to companies that offered it. Insurance not care lead to a significant variability in coverage as changes in coverage could be made faster than the price control board could freeze the price. If health care had been offered then it would run into price freezes on doctors' fees. With insurance the contractual obligation to cover medical costs trumped price controls. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/coke-caves-face-democratic-boycott-threat/444346 American thread? |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
34 years ago 30% of our oil consumption was foreign imports. Today 70% of ouroil consumption is foreign imports. I suspect your data may be old: Wall Street Journal wrote: When OPEC was at its peak in the 1990s, the U.S. imported about two-thirds of its oil. Now we import less than half of it, and about 40% of what we do import comes from Mexico and Canada. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
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