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Message 1213484 - Posted: 3 Apr 2012, 4:42:32 UTC
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... in the current news.

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Rick Santorum just advocated emplyers getting away from offering their employees health insurance. Just another way for them to invest less in us, yet still expect us to do a good job for them. Sha, as if. Sure, go with that, Rick. Watch more of America in turn be less willing to invest themselves in their jobs for their employers.

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Message 1213488 - Posted: 3 Apr 2012, 5:01:05 UTC - in response to Message 1213484.

Sarge, actually, in the developed world (and regarding the handling of health care, the US is not quite in that group), employers mostly don't pay for healthcare (directly anyway), as most countries have a single payer system where the costs are integrated into the generalized tax base instead of the employer.

That can help employers be more competitive in the global market place. Of course those countries DO have health care programs which are not 'employee centric'.

The unfortunate thing for Santorum (and his Teapublican ilk), is that they would move toward a totally for profit health care system where those who can afford health care, pay for it, and those who don't -- don't get it.

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Message 1213678 - Posted: 3 Apr 2012, 21:27:58 UTC

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Activist judges on The Supreme Court rule you can be ... searched ... when arrested for any level of violation.
Bur I'll bet they'd be very upset if searcher and searchee began a relationship after such an intimate search.
This is from the group that brought you "Corporations are people" and SuperPACs.

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Message 1213718 - Posted: 3 Apr 2012, 22:50:57 UTC - in response to Message 1213678.

It used to be the cry of the right against activist judges. Since Gore v Bush, the shoe has moved to the other foot and now the true activist legislative judicial decisions are coming from Republican judges.

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Message 1213720 - Posted: 3 Apr 2012, 22:56:40 UTC

Judicial Activism: Any decision a nut case doesn't agree with!

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Message 1213722 - Posted: 3 Apr 2012, 22:59:47 UTC - in response to Message 1213720.

Activist judges are those that try to legislate from the bench instead of doing their job which is to interpret the Constitution.

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Message 1213767 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 1:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 1213720.

Judicial Activism: Any decision a nut case doesn't agree with!

Well, when the Arizona state troopers come to Cali for a "visit" with you, regarding your "annoying" S@H posts, decide to arrest you, then proceed with the "full cavity searc", despite NO PROBABLE CAUSE for believing you might be smuggling something ... in the cavity known as YOUR BUTT ... . Well, maybe you'll feel things differently afterwards. Er, I mean, feel differently. :)

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Message 1213769 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 1:06:08 UTC - in response to Message 1213722.
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Activist judges are those that try to legislate from the bench instead of doing their job which is to interpret the Constitution.

Gee, is something about probable cause in the Constitution?

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Message 1213810 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 3:51:18 UTC

Misunderstanding about the Healthcare Act is widespread, to say the least! Distortion and misinformation is readily available to anyone of any persuasion. Take a position, take any position and that position is subject to immediate, vociferous and "irrefutable" verification. In a manner of speaking, the search for healthcare truth is a search for terrestrial intelligence.

If and when the healthcare issue makes contact with terrestrial intelligence there will be no healthcare issue! The health insurance industry may have to adjust to market based profits. However, health "insurance" issues (profit or otherwise) are not "healthcare" issues! A popular "movement" to disjoin one from the other would be a welcome sign of terrestrial intelligence.

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Message 1213884 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 10:44:20 UTC

Sigh.
I look back with nostalgia at the personal freedoms and freedom of expression the population of old Communist Russia used to have.

Someone, somewhere is quietly snickering up their sleeve.

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Message 1213908 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 12:50:58 UTC - in response to Message 1213890.

Head Scratcher #(n+1)

In today's age of computing technology, how come the US Census Bureau has *still* not completed the 2010 census?

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/


In the 2010-2012 age of ca;;s for cutbacks, there are less computers for the crunching of census data and less government employees to act as button pushers?

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Message 1213935 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 13:52:15 UTC - in response to Message 1213908.

A census is inherently inaccurate. There has to be canvassing and it will still be inaccurate since where people live is fluid and uncertain. This is especially true in the age of illegals and migrants.

Better to take a poll and divide up districts by other numbers ( registered voters, tax rolls, jury lists, school populations etc)

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Message 1213951 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 14:52:27 UTC - in response to Message 1213935.

A census is inherently inaccurate. There has to be canvassing and it will still be inaccurate since where people live is fluid and uncertain. This is especially true in the age of illegals and migrants.

Better to take a poll and divide up districts by other numbers ( registered voters, tax rolls, jury lists, school populations etc)


William, I am surprised you have misread Guy's question.
Data gathering, which is what is done by the canvassers, is done.
Guy is also not asking about the flaws of our continued attempts to call it a census.
He is asking, why, 2 years after the data has been gathered, the analysis is not complete.

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Message 1213958 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 15:27:29 UTC - in response to Message 1213888.

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How is requiring voters to present a state issued identification card in order to vote preventing minorities from voting?

Because it is a poll tax. Ask yourself, is that state issued ID card free?

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Message 1213959 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 15:31:53 UTC - in response to Message 1213888.

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How is requiring voters to present a state issued identification card in order to vote preventing minorities from voting?

A state issued ID card doesn't prevent anyone from voting . . . unless they don't have one! An ID card (photo or otherwise) is normally acquired as a consequence of driving a car or for some other purpose not related to voting. However, some people fall outside the norm and do not have an acceptable form of identification.

Curiously, a "Voter Registration Card" is not an acceptable ID for voting in some states. Therein lies the problem. Registration ID should be available as a "Voter Information Card" or a "Voter Identification Card" as needed by individual voters. Supervisors of Elections should be required (by state law) to meet this need.

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Message 1213967 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 16:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 1213888.

Guy, it isn't the requirement for an identification that bothers me -- that's fine, it is the differential procedures (from state to state) for obtaining that identification that is a source of concern. In some states the process is simple, straightforward and neither expensive nor time consuming. In other states, not so much.


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How is requiring voters to present a state issued identification card in order to vote preventing minorities from voting?

http://www.ncsl.org/legislatures-elections/elections/voter-id.aspx

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Message 1213968 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 16:02:00 UTC - in response to Message 1213890.

Guy, in addition to Sarge's explanation, you need to consider the response from some of your libertarian buddies to the imposition of questions from the 'blue hats'. Some of those folks might also run afoul of state election identification requirements.


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In today's age of computing technology, how come the US Census Bureau has *still* not completed the 2010 census?

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/

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