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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10316 Credit: 5,079,246 RAC: 6,034	Message 1328831 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 21:43:19 UTC - in response to Message 1328766.
	(And the environment and humans be damned?... So how do you propose to reduce the population of humans on the planet to a level where these measures are not required to feed them? ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7116 Credit: 3,683,557 RAC: 971	Message 1328834 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 21:50:11 UTC - in response to Message 1328831. Last modified: 18 Jan 2013, 21:50:31 UTC
	to a level where these measures are not required to feed them? Food-GM doesn't offer any additional potential for feeding the world. Unless you really believe the marketing hype that is... (What food-GM has done for crops is allowed the poisoning of greater swathes of land so that farmers are forced into buying ever more herbicides and pest controls!... All sold by the same agribusiness...) All on our only planet, Martin food-GM: food artificial genetic modification ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6685 Credit: 1,281,955 RAC: 748	Message 1329049 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 10:23:06 UTC - in response to Message 1328117.
	Value burger contents & the Times food critic's hilarious reply..... "Writing in the Times, food critic Giles Coren bemoaned the public's lack of knowledge about what is in their food. "What on earth did you think they put in them? Prime cuts of delicious free-range, organic, rare breed, heritage beef, grass-fed, Eton-educated, humanely slaughtered, dry-aged [beef], hand-ground by fairies...?" ____________
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,510,155 RAC: 10,133	Message 1329104 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 14:07:09 UTC - in response to Message 1328831.
	(And the environment and humans be damned?... So how do you propose to reduce the population of humans on the planet to a level where these measures are not required to feed them? Why are those starving refusing to eat this junk, and instead it is being force fed on an unsuspecting population of.. well US!! To change back would require more PEOPLE, as in more jobs.. as in less disadvantaged populations. ____________ Janice
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7116 Credit: 3,683,557 RAC: 971	Message 1329135 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 16:42:30 UTC
	A gruesome connection?... Horrific cruelty at abattoir caught on film: Footage shows stunned horse waking up just before it is about to have its throat cut ... The horses at the Red Lion Abattoir are believed to be butchered for European food markets. ... Who do you believe for your 'processed' food? Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10316 Credit: 5,079,246 RAC: 6,034	Message 1329150 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 18:02:53 UTC - in response to Message 1329104.
	(And the environment and humans be damned?... So how do you propose to reduce the population of humans on the planet to a level where these measures are not required to feed them? Why are those starving refusing to eat this junk, and instead it is being force fed on an unsuspecting population of.. well US!! To change back would require more PEOPLE, as in more jobs.. as in less disadvantaged populations. Daily Mail food journalist Joanna Blythman blames the "sheer massiveness" of the supermarket food chain, which she claims is "bound to lead to corners cut and standards compromised". Again, So how do you propose to reduce the population of humans on the planet to a level where these measures are not required to feed them? ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7116 Credit: 3,683,557 RAC: 971	Message 1329151 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 18:05:09 UTC - in response to Message 1329150.
	... where these measures are not required to feed them? Such measures are not required for our food. However, in the name of no scruples and unhealthy and cruel profiteering... All on our only planet, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,510,155 RAC: 10,133	Message 1329162 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 18:38:54 UTC
	https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mandatory-labeling-foods-containing-genetically-modified-organisms-gmos-its-our-right-make-informed/232DwyKy ____________ Janice
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6685 Credit: 1,281,955 RAC: 748	Message 1329168 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 18:48:23 UTC - in response to Message 1329150.
	Again, So how do you propose to reduce the population of humans on the planet to a level where these measures are not required to feed them? That's easy, just continue the way we are doing & wars will take care of that issue. ____________
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10316 Credit: 5,079,246 RAC: 6,034	Message 1329205 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 20:54:02 UTC - in response to Message 1329151.
	... where these measures are not required to feed them? Such measures are not required for our food. Ignorance is bliss. ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7116 Credit: 3,683,557 RAC: 971	Message 1329312 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 2:55:29 UTC - in response to Message 1329205.
	... where these measures are not required to feed them? Such measures are not required for our food. Ignorance is bliss. Indeed so... 50% food wastage by supermarkets and their consumers, agribusiness monopolistic practices limiting or restricting food supply, political and corporate corruption adding their own problems... The main food supply shortages in Africa for example are primarily political. All on our only planet, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10316 Credit: 5,079,246 RAC: 6,034	Message 1329333 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 5:14:58 UTC - in response to Message 1329312.
	The main food supply shortages in Africa for example are primarily political. Wow you can say it and not get it. Ignorance is bliss. ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7116 Credit: 3,683,557 RAC: 971	Message 1329456 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 16:14:07 UTC Last modified: 20 Jan 2013, 16:17:23 UTC
	Heard this one before? How addictive is sugar? ... The idea that sugar is bad for our health is not new. Forty years ago, a book written by British physiologist John Yudkin claimed that high sugar consumption was linked to heart disease. “Quote: You can make dog poop taste good with enough sugar.” Prof Robert Lustig University of California We know that sugar also causes tooth decay and that eating too much sugar-laden food can lead to a poor diet lacking in nutrients. But some experts say that sugar has actually helped to fuel the obesity epidemic. ... Diabetes UK Cymru: Condition 'could overwhelm NHS in Wales' ... Some 167,000 people are being treated for the disease in Wales, a 9.4% increase in two years. ... And the response from the industry sponsored lobby group: Sugar Nutrition UK, a research body which is funded by the sugar manufacturers, refutes the suggestion that sugar is toxic or addictive. "Sweet treats are not toxic. Major expert committees have considered the evidence in regards to sugars and all of the diseases addressed by Lustig, and all have concluded that there is no evidence of any harm attributed to current sugar consumption levels." Now where have we heard that sort of misinformation before?... Note also the use of (cheap) high fructose corn syrup in 'processed foods'... For Gary-C: All a question of 'ignorance'?... Or lack of education? All on our only planet, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10316 Credit: 5,079,246 RAC: 6,034	Message 1329470 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 17:20:33 UTC - in response to Message 1329456.
	For Gary-C: All a question of 'ignorance'?... Or lack of education? It shows itself when people wave their arms and say make it so. Sure 50% of food is wasted. That doesn't mean we have enough to feed people. You forget transportation before it spoils. Oh wait, transportation is CO2 release. Yeah, wave your arms and say make it so. ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7116 Credit: 3,683,557 RAC: 971	Message 1329483 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 17:42:24 UTC - in response to Message 1329470. Last modified: 20 Jan 2013, 17:42:52 UTC
	Yeah, wave your arms and say make it so. Are you making anything 'so' other than uselessly trolling and making self satisfying noises? Awareness is a small start but still a positive start... Only on this world, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6801 Credit: 17,090,954 RAC: 28,336	Message 1329505 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 18:15:46 UTC - in response to Message 1329470.
	For Gary-C: All a question of 'ignorance'?... Or lack of education? It shows itself when people wave their arms and say make it so. Sure 50% of food is wasted. That doesn't mean we have enough to feed people. You forget transportation before it spoils. Oh wait, transportation is CO2 release. Yeah, wave your arms and say make it so. So who is showing a lack of education now. One of the reasons that places like Africa are short of food is because they now grow crops for export. Usually thing that can only be grown at hot times of the year in northern climates. So that you can have strawberries etc in October, all shipped to you first class by carbon polluting aircraft. People should make seasonal crops a treet, as in Strawberries at the time of Wimboldon, and not at Christmas.
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James Sotherden Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 6050 Credit: 14,684,092 RAC: 23,605	Message 1329512 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 18:29:11 UTC
	“Quote: You can make dog poop taste good with enough sugar.” Prof Robert Lustig University of California My 8 years in the US Air Force, I can attest that, That statmenet is not true. I dont know if some of the crap we ate was dog poop, But no amount of sugar would make it taste any better. ____________
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6801 Credit: 17,090,954 RAC: 28,336	Message 1329517 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 18:34:29 UTC
	If you require thing to taste sweet then try Stevia. Lots of online shops for it incl. Amazon.
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,510,155 RAC: 10,133	Message 1329537 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 19:32:12 UTC
	sugar is disappearing from commercial foods. HFCS is much cheaper, and much more suspect in obesity issues. Sugar from genetically pure sugar cane? There is very little in that which we call "food" for the masses. Locally grown organics can save a lot on the carbon footprints, chemical pollution, nitrate runoffs, and has the side effect of tasting much better. ____________ Janice
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10316 Credit: 5,079,246 RAC: 6,034	Message 1329581 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 21:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 1329505.
	One of the reasons that places like Africa are short of food is because they now grow crops for export. Ah yes. Are the locals willing -- able -- to pay the same, for any crop, that the farmer makes by growing this crop for export? Again, you demonstrate that ignorance is bliss. People should make seasonal crops a treet, as in Strawberries at the time of Wimboldon, and not at Christmas. Wave your arms and say make it so. ____________
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