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Message 1330370 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 14:46:27 UTC - in response to Message 1330353.

Insurance(people that really should update their investment methods)and the privately held(includes direct controlled IRA/401K/ are the people that actually INVEST.

You should read a prospectus from a mutual fund company. It is all about who the investment manager or trader is.

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Message 1330372 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 14:54:24 UTC - in response to Message 1330370.

I personally avoid mutual funds. Again this thread is about our food, our food supply, and the safety of it. Please try to focus.
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Message 1330373 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 14:56:40 UTC

Lets stay focused on food please.
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Message 1330712 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 14:39:24 UTC - in response to Message 1330373.

Lets stay focused on food please.

Good idea...

So is such sliminess such a good idea?:


Horsemeat cancer fears raised by Labour

A drug that can potentially cause cancer in humans may have entered the food chain via horses slaughtered...

... Ms Creagh told Mr Heath in the Commons: "I am in receipt of evidence showing that several horses slaughtered in UK abattoirs last year tested positive for phenylbutazone, or bute, a drug which causes cancer in humans and is banned from the human food chain.

"It is possible that those animals entered the human food chain." ...




All for corporate and/or personal greed?

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Message 1330784 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 18:07:53 UTC - in response to Message 1330712.

"Due to health concerns over the quality of the meat contained in many commercially produced sausages (heightened by the BSE crisis in the 1990s) there has been a marked improvement in the quality of meat content in commonly available British sausages with a return to the artisanal production of high quality traditional recipes, which had previously been in decline. However many of the cheaper sausages available use mechanically recovered meat or meat slurry.

There are various laws concerning the meat content of sausages in the UK. The minimum meat content to be labelled Pork Sausages is 42% (30% for other types of meat sausages), although to be classed as meat, the Pork can contain 30% fat and 25% connective tissue. Often the cheapest supermarket pork sausages do not have the necessary meat content to be described as Pork Sausages and are simply labelled 'Sausages'. These typically contain MRM which under EU law can no longer be described as meat
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MRM(Mechanically recovered Meat) is known in the USA by the USDA as "Lean Finely Textured Pork", the pig version of pink slime. A way to slip additional connective tissues and fat back into the sausage and call it "meat".

Even if it is not horse, it can be a very dangerous practice.


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Message 1331575 - Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 14:51:27 UTC



It is pink, therefore it is meat.~USDA
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Message 1332121 - Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 23:16:30 UTC

While said of another class of corporations, it applies to all the ones making pink slime:

Jim Sleeper and Daniel J.H. Greenwood in The Atlantic wrote:
The problem isn't that the profit-driven, legally constrained corporations driving violent entertainment are malevolent; it's that they're civically mindless. They're inherently incapable of free speech because the positions they take are just the result of fiduciaries -- directors, managers and public relations officers -- attempting to maximize stock value without regard to their own values, or anyone else's. Advances in manipulative advertising and a narrow focus on profit have made them runaway engines that can't be persuaded by rational or moral appeals to stop inciting exaggerated fears of armed home invasion, government takeovers, or fantasies of victory by gunplay. So long as the law and stock market demand they pursue profit, and selling guns and vengeance remains profitable, they'll keep doing it.

Perhaps someone other than myself pointing out the real issue is fiduciaries doing their legal duty. This is raw legal ethics unleashed on the world.

Citizens United needs to be overturned and if need be by amendment to make it clear that the grantor of a corporation, the State Government, is issuing a license and may place whatever constraints on that license it pleases.

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Message 1332123 - Posted: 27 Jan 2013, 23:24:17 UTC

+1 Gary.
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Message 1332130 - Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 0:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 1332121.

Gary, you are sounding a bit like a subversive.
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Message 1332153 - Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 3:48:50 UTC - in response to Message 1332130.

Gary, you are sounding a bit like a subversive.

No, only want to make changes through legal means. Overturning Citizens United is very important and if everyone would write their representatives and tell them this is important to them and that they are registered voters ... change can happen.


Subversive, moi? Might be the only one here who was a on a list of names deposited with a special master as a Doe plaintiff suing the US Attorney General for injunctive relief. Relief was granted. Appellate court agreed. Congress promptly changed the law to make it moot before it made SCOTUS. Oh suing the US AG isn't to be taken lightly, it makes you a target.

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Message 1332168 - Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 6:06:03 UTC - in response to Message 1332153.

Gary, LOL, trying to make logical and fair changes through legal means is by definition subversive.
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Message 1332226 - Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 14:03:44 UTC

You guys are worried about a little pink slime? Im suprised they didnt use gator aids fire retardant mixture. That way you would never have your grill catch on fire cooking a hamburger. :)
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Message 1332236 - Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 14:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 1332168.

Gary, LOL, trying to make logical and fair changes through legal means is by definition subversive.

Subversive:
Noun:
A radical supporter of political or social revolution
Adjective
In opposition to a civil authority or government

What's a little difference between a noun an and adjective?

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Message 1332300 - Posted: 28 Jan 2013, 19:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 1332236.

Gary, you are correct. I will change my post to read, Gary, LOL, trying to make logical and fair changes through legal means is by definition making you sound like a subversive.
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Message 1332438 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 6:50:34 UTC - in response to Message 1332226.

You guys are worried about a little pink slime? Im suprised they didnt use gator aids fire retardant mixture. That way you would never have your grill catch on fire cooking a hamburger. :)

I am against fraud.

And feeding that stuff to us as hamburger is fraud. As long as the gatoraid is pink, I am sure the USDA would have no trouble including it in your "beef".

I hate to even imagine what is actually i gatoraide.
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Message 1332450 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 7:12:57 UTC
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Surprising this thread hasn't brought up the horse meat that was found in "beef".
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Message 1332602 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 0:37:11 UTC
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Should you be worried about slime.

Apparently 46% of food infections are caused by leafy greens.

Most deaths are caused by poultry.

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Message 1332655 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 4:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 1332602.

Beyond the hormone injections,anti-biotic resistant bacteria and viral spread potential of the "slimes",
virtually anything commercially produced can contain genetically altered meat/produce which often creates NEW viruses that come with the new DNA structures.

I am developing a very healthy concern over all of it. More so in larger productions.

This madness is fine. If you're mad at the time(C. Stevens)
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Message 1335814 - Posted: 8 Feb 2013, 14:36:52 UTC - in response to Message 1332655.

... This madness is fine. If you're mad at the time (C. Stevens)

Very apt...


Just one little recent snippet:

Findus beef lasagne contained up to 100% horsemeat, FSA says

... Findus said in a statement: "We understand this is a very sensitive subject for consumers and we would like to reassure you we have reacted immediately. We do not believe this to be a food safety issue. ...


So... According to that, all ok then?... All a game of Marketing denial and the customers be damned?


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