Well I installed 40 and then reinstalled My old customized app info file(for a 64bit app and only for a 64bit app) as the app I am using didn't have a name change, but 40 seems to agree with the 590, Thanks.

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The astropulse app is OpenCL and to be honest Nvidia is a little behind ATI with OpenCL.

CUDA is NVidia's programming model, OpenCL is AMD/ATIs.
Not surprisingly, NVidia spend most of their time developing their model.

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Grant
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The astropulse app is OpenCL and to be honest Nvidia is a little behind ATI with OpenCL.

CUDA is NVidia's programming model, OpenCL is AMD/ATIs.
Not surprisingly, NVidia spend most of their time developing their model.

Not quite, AMD/ATI used CAL for a long time and it worked great on several projects. They are in the process of phasing it out though and will be going to OpenCL only with the next SDK.

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The astropulse app is OpenCL and to be honest Nvidia is a little behind ATI with OpenCL.

CUDA is NVidia's programming model, OpenCL is AMD/ATIs.
Not surprisingly, NVidia spend most of their time developing their model.

OpenCL is a creation of Khronos Group which was put together by a bunch of companies, including both ATI and nVidia, and many others.
http://www.khronos.org/about/

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I'd like to propose a vote of thanks to Richard Hasselgrove, LadyL and others who have worked so damn hard, and under a lot of pressure, to get this latest installer out.

See my post in Gripes and Kudos.....made before I read this thread tonight.

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Have made friends here.
Most were cats.

The astropulse app is OpenCL and to be honest Nvidia is a little behind ATI with OpenCL.

CUDA is NVidia's programming model, OpenCL is AMD/ATIs.
Not surprisingly, NVidia spend most of their time developing their model.

OpenCL is a creation of Khronos Group which was put together by a bunch of companies, including both ATI and nVidia, and many others.
http://www.khronos.org/about/

Yep, but the fact is NVidia are pushing CUDA- it's their programming model. And AMD are pushing OpenGL.
So each develops for their model.

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Grant
Darwin NT

The astropulse app is OpenCL and to be honest Nvidia is a little behind ATI with OpenCL.

CUDA is NVidia's programming model, OpenCL is AMD/ATIs.
Not surprisingly, NVidia spend most of their time developing their model.

OpenCL is a creation of Khronos Group which was put together by a bunch of companies, including both ATI and nVidia, and many others.
http://www.khronos.org/about/

Yep, but the fact is NVidia are pushing CUDA- it's their programming model. And AMD are pushing OpenGL.
So each develops for their model.

OpenGL is a creation of Silicon Graphics Inc, and is a cross platform api for writing applications that produce 2D & 3D Graphics, just like OpenCL it is used by many different vendors, Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc

Claggy

ATI had a lot of research done through Close to Metal, before they went to Brook+ (CAL) and eventually on to OpenCL. Their drivers are more mature when it comes to OpenCL support, than Nvidia's, as Nvidia has been focusing mostly on CUDA for a good 4 years now.

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Jord

Ancient Astronaut Theorists can tell you that I do not help with tech questions via private message. Please use the forums for that.

Can you all please stay on topic?
Discussion about NVidia, ATI and OpenCL doesn't belong here.

Thanks all, but as Richard said, we just wrap it all nicely and put it on the van. It's a symbiosis - no installer without apps and the apps would not get as widely distributed without the installer.

As has been pointed out several times, the AP OpenCL NVidia app is not ready for installer inclusion, since it uses a whole CPU core under CUDA 4.x (270.x+)drivers. It will be made available as a beta app [including appropriate app_info] when I have a chance to get round to it.

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I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra!

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x41g_cuda32 has been tested with and is safe to use on Kepler.
(...)

Does this mean that x38g_cuda32 app can't run Kepler WUs?

BTW, this new kind of WUs are specially marked?


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x41g_cuda32 has been tested with and is safe to use on Kepler.
(...)

Does this mean that x38g_cuda32 app can't run Kepler WUs?

BTW, this new kind of WUs are specially marked?

No, it means we haven't tested.

The AP 6 WU are marked as AP 6 as opposed to AP 5.05, yes.
Different application, different checkbox in the preferences, differen sublink in the tasklist.

If you want to run the new AP 6 work (AP 505 is resends only) you need the new app. And the checkbox ticked.

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I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra!

(...)
x41g_cuda32 has been tested with and is safe to use on Kepler.
(...)

Does this mean that x38g_cuda32 app can't run Kepler WUs?

BTW, this new kind of WUs are specially marked?

There is no new type of Wu called Kepler, Kepler is Nvidia's lastest GPU.

Claggy

(...)
x41g_cuda32 has been tested with and is safe to use on Kepler.
(...)

Does this mean that x38g_cuda32 app can't run Kepler WUs?

BTW, this new kind of WUs are specially marked?

There is no new type of Wu, Kepler is Nvidia's lastest GPU.

Claggy

ROFL, gotta love the convergence of naming. Good stuff.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

x41g_cuda32 has been tested with and is safe to use on Kepler.

Does this mean that x38g_cuda32 app can't run Kepler WUs?

BTW, this new kind of WUs are specially marked?

x41g_cuda32 has been tested on and runs OK on the nVidia GTX 680 (code name Kepler).

x41g_cuda32 has been tested on and runs OK on the nVidia GTX 680 (code name Kepler).

That's what happens if you chuck in a line at the last moment - and I mean the last moment!

It's also what happens if you jump to conclusions instead of reading properly. Sorry, Sutaru.

And it hasn't been tested if x38g runs on GTX 680, but anyone putting a new generation of card in and NOT grabbing the latest installer (or at least reading the boards to make sure the old apps are safe to go) ought to be [censored]. We still have some idiots running V12 on Fermi (um GTX 460+ ?) and that is over 2 years and 4 opt app generations old.

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I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra!

For to show that I'm not totally stupid.. LOL

News : 'First Look at Kepler SETI Candidate Signals'


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We still have some idiots running V12 on Fermi (um GTX 460+ ?) and that is over 2 years and 4 opt app generations old.

I feel that CUDA apps should be checking the cards Compute Capability and if it's higher than the app has been tested on the app should refuse to run. Maybe there needs to be a way to force it to run, but the default should be to Play Safe.

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It's also what happens if you jump to conclusions instead of reading properly. Sorry, Sutaru.
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If Richard can't write GTX6xx or nVIDIA Kepler or Kepler GPU - or what ever?

..so that no confusion happens.

Just my 0.02 €.


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We still have some idiots running V12 on Fermi (um GTX 460+ ?) and that is over 2 years and 4 opt app generations old.

I feel that CUDA apps should be checking the cards Compute Capability and if it's higher than the app has been tested on the app should refuse to run. Maybe there needs to be a way to force it to run, but the default should be to Play Safe.

Hi Ray,
Never going to happen. I never heard of any programmer implementing suicide code except for malicious intent. The builds were designed to be forward & backward compatible, taking advantage of language & driver facilities to do so, and they are. It's a releif that it's proven to work, but deliberately breaking stuff is an approach that has been considered and rejected,

Jason

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Well I suppose you can always count on someone to come along and confuse things that shouldn't be confused with the right understanding. :D

Cheers.

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