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Message 1208400 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 9:11:21 UTC - in response to Message 1208399.
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Should I upgrade because of the new version and get new installer etc

Not quite yet - the new installer hasn't been released yet, and won't be until Eric tells us he's happy to open the floodgates (he hasn't said anything yet).

Once everything is ready, you will need to upgrade with the new Lunatics installer, yes. But there'll be plenty of news about that on this message board when the time comes - just keep checking here every day or two.

Edit - to answer the other question in your PM: there's no reason to update your version of BOINC because of this, just Lunatics.

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Message 1208410 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 9:58:25 UTC - in response to Message 1208258.

I will not upgrade my opt installation until the release of MB V7 is included in the package too. No separate AP 6 app will be installed.


Um. As things stand, you may be waiting a loooong time for that, maybe even for Godot.
Now that I've officially said that, Murphy dictates that Eric is going to release MB V7 next Tuesday :D.
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Message 1208435 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 13:14:29 UTC - in response to Message 1208410.

I will not upgrade my opt installation until the release of MB V7 is included in the package too. No separate AP 6 app will be installed.

Um. As things stand, you may be waiting a loooong time for that, maybe even for Godot.
Now that I've officially said that, Murphy dictates that Eric is going to release MB V7 next Tuesday :D.

But since you talked about Murphy, you threw him out of anything predictable and into "surprise us with whatever is least advantageous" mode.

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Message 1208436 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 13:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 1208435.


But since you talked about Murphy, you threw him out of anything predictable and into "surprise us with whatever is least advantageous" mode.


Now you've mentioned that, Murphy is back in the process......
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Message 1208449 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 14:51:33 UTC

One thing I'm seeing and that I object to vlars being run on the gpu again, I've got 3 running right now that will take nearly 2 hours, I've aborted some that take 3 and 4 hours, I thought vlars were for cpus only???
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Message 1208490 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 17:12:57 UTC - in response to Message 1208449.

One thing I'm seeing and that I object to vlars being run on the gpu again, I've got 3 running right now that will take nearly 2 hours, I've aborted some that take 3 and 4 hours, I thought vlars were for cpus only???

There are no tasks listed for your host with a .vlar extension. Please give specific examples, a link to the WU if possible but at least task name and date it was sent. It is just possible that an old splitter which doesn't add the extension has resurfaced. It is also possible that the long run times are caused by something else.
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Message 1208493 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 17:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 1208400.
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Thanks will wait until then
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Message 1208496 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 17:21:10 UTC - in response to Message 1208490.

One thing I'm seeing and that I object to vlars being run on the gpu again, I've got 3 running right now that will take nearly 2 hours, I've aborted some that take 3 and 4 hours, I thought vlars were for cpus only???

There are no tasks listed for your host with a .vlar extension. Please give specific examples, a link to the WU if possible but at least task name and date it was sent. It is just possible that an old splitter which doesn't add the extension has resurfaced. It is also possible that the long run times are caused by something else.
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Well they weren't listed as vlars, they just looked like them, kind of anecdotal now as they've been reported after I aborted them...
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Message 1208498 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 17:23:54 UTC - in response to Message 1208449.

One thing I'm seeing and that I object to vlars being run on the gpu again, I've got 3 running right now that will take nearly 2 hours, I've aborted some that take 3 and 4 hours, I thought vlars were for cpus only???


On one aborted one the wingman reports AR 0.84 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=951044843

you have a number of errors though that have

SETI@home error -1 Can't create file -- disk full?
in checkpoint()


in stderr. You may want to check the harddrive.

I had a few tasks with AR 0.287 that are longrunning, but I suspect you have a different problem.
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Message 1208505 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 17:38:22 UTC - in response to Message 1208498.
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One thing I'm seeing and that I object to vlars being run on the gpu again, I've got 3 running right now that will take nearly 2 hours, I've aborted some that take 3 and 4 hours, I thought vlars were for cpus only???


On one aborted one the wingman reports AR 0.84 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=951044843

you have a number of errors though that have

SETI@home error -1 Can't create file -- disk full?
in checkpoint()


in stderr. You may want to check the harddrive.

I had a few tasks with AR 0.287 that are longrunning, but I suspect you have a different problem.

I haven't gotten any notices to increase the size beyond 10GB and I did do a chkdsk /r and the disk is fine. I have a 500GB hdd with 411GB free at the moment, kind of hard to have run out of room.
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Message 1208509 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 17:44:56 UTC - in response to Message 1208505.

I haven't gotten any notices to increase the size beyond 10GB and I did do a chkdsk /r and the disk is fine. I have a 500GB hdd with 411GB free at the moment, kind of hard to have run out of room.


Last tab in Boinc Manager called Disk, under Total disk usage... How much have you got available to Boinc?

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Message 1208510 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 17:49:05 UTC - in response to Message 1208509.

I haven't gotten any notices to increase the size beyond 10GB and I did do a chkdsk /r and the disk is fine. I have a 500GB hdd with 411GB free at the moment, kind of hard to have run out of room.


Last tab in Boinc Manager called Disk, under Total disk usage... How much have you got available to Boinc?

AS I SAID 10GB...
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Message 1208515 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 18:11:08 UTC - in response to Message 1208510.
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I haven't gotten any notices to increase the size beyond 10GB and I did do a chkdsk /r and the disk is fine. I have a 500GB hdd with 411GB free at the moment, kind of hard to have run out of room.


Last tab in Boinc Manager called Disk, under Total disk usage... How much have you got available to Boinc?

AS I SAID 10GB...

Really? How did you manage that? If it's reading Exactly 10GB, then you must have set your preferences to 10GB plus the size of your apps, Wu's, xml's, etc, ie everything that makes up your Boinc installation.

I have my Disk: use at most preference set to 10GB, the used by Boinc says 981.22MB, while the free available to Boinc us only 9.04GB (on my E8500/9800GTX+)

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Message 1208559 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 20:44:50 UTC - in response to Message 1208515.

Only 10Gig?, mines set at 100:-)

Space is the least of my worries, now its temps again:-( Got a brand new Palit GTX560 to keep my existing Palit GTX560 company and so I could put my gtx460 into rig 2..

Brilliant! The new GTX560 runs at 80c with a s@h cuda WU, the old one runs at 66C
So now I'm back to the situation I'd hoped to escape, putting an non s@h cuda task on the new gtx560:-(

Trouble is s@h just up and grabs the GPU if it happens to feel like it on the 60 min switchover.

So either I monitor the system 24/7 or I suspend s@h when I'm not able to keep and eye on things..
Looks like I just wasted £140 on a new card for nothing.

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Message 1208562 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 20:56:23 UTC - in response to Message 1208559.

Only 10Gig?, mines set at 100:-)

Space is the least of my worries, now its temps again:-( Got a brand new Palit GTX560 to keep my existing Palit GTX560 company and so I could put my gtx460 into rig 2..

Brilliant! The new GTX560 runs at 80c with a s@h cuda WU, the old one runs at 66C
So now I'm back to the situation I'd hoped to escape, putting an non s@h cuda task on the new gtx560:-(

Trouble is s@h just up and grabs the GPU if it happens to feel like it on the 60 min switchover.

So either I monitor the system 24/7 or I suspend s@h when I'm not able to keep and eye on things..
Looks like I just wasted £140 on a new card for nothing.

Cheers,

Only a 560, Hmm, My 590 that I just received will be in good company then. 100GB? Just for a gpu operation, doing MB only? I've yet to yank a couple of Cyclone cards and then install the 590, while moving 1 GTX460 to the x4 slot...
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Message 1208563 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 21:03:50 UTC

It is not hard to calculate, if you run only SETI MB, you need ~145 MB per GPU and four times less for each enabled CPU core. And usual stuff.
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Message 1208564 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 21:04:53 UTC - in response to Message 1208562.

Trouble is Vince, there isnt any work, zero, zilch and non being created dispite all the servers showing as up and running:-(

And most of my existing cuda WU are shories, couple of mins or so:-(
MB Cpu are taking a better length of time since most of them are VLAR's..

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Message 1208566 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 21:08:47 UTC - in response to Message 1208563.

But I dont only run s@h, I also run e@h and those files are 8Mb per WU, but as I said I have plenty of space, so I set it to 100Mb and it actually occupies a lot less for both projects.. No skin off my back, apart from a couple of small ssd's all my HDD are 1TB each. 6 in all:-)

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Message 1208567 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 21:16:39 UTC

Ok I set Mine at 120GB, which should be enough for 4 GTX590 cards per PC, more than enough, I also didn't realize that EVGA Precision was on automatic for the fan, not until I started having the cursor refuse to move, weird, fixed that too, now the fans are on manual control @ 100%. Oh and the 590 came with an EK water block too, now I may need to find 2 or 3 more blocks like that...

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Message 1208568 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 21:20:07 UTC
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My message was for VWBobier, who seem runs only SETI MB last month and has ran two Milkyway tasks, which are calculated anyway. He has 600 in progress tasks at the moment, which makes his BOINC occupy at most 300 MB.
So there is some other problem, not the disk space, or disk space allocated to BOINC.
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