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There are honest politicians who are there to help and improve (if they can), but, on anecdotal comment and recent evidence, I am generally inclined to agree with you Sirius. | |
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OK, I admit it, I'm prejudiced! Show me an honest, reliable & trustworthy politician & I'll show you a liar. so that they can sit back with their fat King Edward's after their caviar & chips luncheon, followed by coffee in the "Grand Room". Firstly, smoking has been banned since July 2007 in all internal areas of the House of Commons estate, including in bars and private offices. Secondly, what evidence to you have that any politician, MP or Minister, smokes cigars anyehere? As far as I know Caviar is not on the Dining room menu at the Houses of Parliament, unless you know otherwise? Thirdly there is also no "Grand room" at either Westminster or Downing Street. You cannot expect anyone to take your views seriously if you continue to make outrageous, patently untrue, and quite frankly just silly, statements like those. The last politician famous for large cigars was Sir Winston Churchill, so I suppose he was useless and untrustworthy in you view as well? Holding the views of Politics and politicians that you do, I hope that you don't intend to vote in any future local or National elections, else you would be laying yourself open to hypocrisy. | |
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Christ almighty, you never heard of lampooning? I suggest you check back into English history, also history of the press & you will see countless instances of said lampooning. English politicians were famous for being constantly lampooned. | |
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Lampooning politicians, or in other words the the glorious observations of some of our most famous cartoonists are a lovely British institution from the early days of Punch, that should long continue. Mac from the Mail is particularly good. I'm sorry, I don't think that your observations are lampooning, they are more generally misinformed, gleaned from the press, and as John said, showing your prejudices. | |
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So what you are saying is that those ministers did not make those comments? However, Whitehall sources state that they were made. | |
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I think the situation could perhaps have been handled a little better, but William Hagues comments are quite relevant. Whatever the Government did they would have been criticised. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. | |
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Quite agree. Which is why I stated in a previous post "Politicians" rather than highlight any particular party. All 3 are just as bad as each other - forgo common sense just to score points off each other rather than actually doing the job they're paid to do. Any type of fuel can be extremely dangerous if mis-handled & as so called leaders should have shown more responsibility than what was shown. ____________ | |
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Don't blame the Government for something they foolishly say. Blame all the short sighted idiots that went and jammed up the fuel stations and caused the panic. Johnny, my feelings too.... ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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It's about time people took responsibility for them selves and their individual and collective actions. But they won't because today's parents won't instil it into their kids, and schools won't teach it. So what do you do...... | |
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It's about time people took responsibility for them selves and their individual and collective actions. God, don't tempt me on this one....I'd get banned!! ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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God, don't tempt me on this one....I'd get banned!! I've been pretty forthright in many threads about today's useless parents, and ineffectual education. Not been banned yet. Provided you talk sensibly it is OK to say what you think. But perhaps not in this thread please, this about the UK Government. Give me a PM. | |
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God, don't tempt me on this one....I'd get banned!! Ah but if the current & past governments hadn't eroded education standards, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today. Now that chicken has come home to roost, the prevaling attitude is to blame the parents. Wasn't it those parents who had their education destroyed? ____________ | |
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Years ago I had a row with a Labour politician about Grammar schools and education standards. | |
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Interesting, here in the states, that argument might just as well be with Teapublicans who seem to think that creationism is science.
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Years ago I had a row with a Labour politician about Grammar schools and education standards. What? You mean my 5 "O's" (all b's) & 2 GCE's (1xb & 1xc) are now the equivalent of GCSE e's? Damn, why did I bother going to school! ____________ | |
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What? You mean my 5 "O's" (all b's) & 2 GCE's (1xb & 1xc) are now the equivalent of GCSE e's? Actually those 16 year old academic qualifications are now likely to be the equivalent of a pass degree from one of the new Universities (or Unis). ____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues | |
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Now showing on the BBC news..... | |
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God, don't tempt me on this one....I'd get banned!! Offer graciously declined Chris, there are more fruitful topics worthy of discussion here that will keep me in a more melancholy frame of mind. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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Getting back to Cameron, I see the current Private Eye (#1310) has the following: Private Eye wrote: "It is hard to believe that we need government regulations on issues such as ice cream van musical jingles," wrote David Cameron to ministers at the launch of his Red Tape Challenge last April, promising to cut burdensome regulations. And if anybody thinks a 24-page consultation document on ice cream van chimes might be an April Fool, here's the link http://www.defra.gov.uk/consult/files/ice-cream-van-condoc-120308.pdf. The document does include an option to scrap the code entirely, though states that this option is not the preferred choice of industry. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... | |
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On the face of it Cameron made a very succinct observation. It is hard to believe that we need government regulations on issues such as ice cream van musical jingles," But it needs to be appreciated what exactly Codes of Practice are. Approved Codes of Practice give practical guidance on compliance. Failure to comply with an Approved Code of Practice is not an offence in itself. However, these codes have special legal status. If an employer/individual faces criminal prosecution under health and safety law, and it is proved that the advice of the Approved Code of Practice has not been followed, a court can regard it as evidence of guilt unless it is satisfied that the employer/individual has complied with the law in some other way. Following Approved Codes of Practice is therefore regarded as best practice. For some years I was the Specifying and Approval Engineer for Access and Personal Safety Equipment for a large UK Company. Consequently I represented my company on various British Standard Technical Committees helping to draft and publish various National Standards. We also contributed to various Codes of Practice. When I left that role, harmonisation with the European EN's was just coming in. There were so many public complaints against unlicenced ice cream vans and the noise that they made, and the unsocial hours within which many operated, that a Code of Practice was issued to combat that. It is not exactly "Government Regulations" Cameron wasn't quite correct, and as per usual, Ian Hislop & co are having their irreverent bit of fun. | |
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