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Message 1212755 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:12:15 UTC
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Come on Sirius ... your prejudices are hanging out under your shirt tails.

That is total an utter twaddle, as is like any assertions I might make that Labour wants to control all our waking actions (which they do) ... LOL
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Message 1212758 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:19:04 UTC
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OK, I admit it, I'm prejudiced! Show me an honest, reliable & trustworthy politician & I'll show you a liar.
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Message 1212760 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:30:46 UTC
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There are honest politicians who are there to help and improve (if they can), but, on anecdotal comment and recent evidence, I am generally inclined to agree with you Sirius.

Now time to get up and take the dogs for a couple of mile walk in this glorious weather, then read the Sunday paper (The Times).
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Message 1212765 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 9:55:50 UTC - in response to Message 1212761.  

Christ almighty, you never heard of lampooning? I suggest you check back into English history, also history of the press & you will see countless instances of said lampooning. English politicians were famous for being constantly lampooned.

Or is it that now that you are "inside" said establishment, you are going the way of many English? Hate having your country/system/people lampooned? If so, how sad!
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Message 1212815 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 14:34:47 UTC - in response to Message 1212787.  

So what you are saying is that those ministers did not make those comments? However, Whitehall sources state that they were made.

We all know that there are naive & gullible people out there & these "leaders" are supposed to be highly educated, so where was their common sense?

People like me either lampoon them and/or make comments regarding their fitness to lead & we're labelled "prejudiced"

Whatever next?
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Message 1212845 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 16:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 1212821.  
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


Quite agree. Which is why I stated in a previous post "Politicians" rather than highlight any particular party.

All 3 are just as bad as each other - forgo common sense just to score points off each other rather than actually doing the job they're paid to do.

Any type of fuel can be extremely dangerous if mis-handled & as so called leaders should have shown more responsibility than what was shown.
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Message 1212866 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 16:46:08 UTC - in response to Message 1212750.  

Don't blame the Government for something they foolishly say. Blame all the short sighted idiots that went and jammed up the fuel stations and caused the panic.

It's about time people took responsibility for them selves and their individual and collective actions.

They will be blaming the woman who set herself on fire when she decanted petrol from one open container to another next to a running gas cooker. I am sorry she suffered 40% burns, but no knowledge of the volatility of petrol is no defence in life and it's consequences.


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Message 1212904 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 17:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 1212897.  

It's about time people took responsibility for them selves and their individual and collective actions.


But they won't because today's parents won't instil it into their kids, and schools won't teach it. So what do you do......



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Message 1212970 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 20:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 1212909.  

God, don't tempt me on this one....I'd get banned!!


I've been pretty forthright in many threads about today's useless parents, and ineffectual education. Not been banned yet. Provided you talk sensibly it is OK to say what you think. But perhaps not in this thread please, this about the UK Government.

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Ah but if the current & past governments hadn't eroded education standards, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today. Now that chicken has come home to roost, the prevaling attitude is to blame the parents.

Wasn't it those parents who had their education destroyed?
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Message 1212973 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 20:54:25 UTC
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Years ago I had a row with a Labour politician about Grammar schools and education standards.

My main point was I was not going to jeopardize my childrens education for Educational Political dogma.


Regarding increasing educational attainment reported year after year.

Remember GCE "O" Levels, and the parallel exam of GCSEs?

A good attainment in GCSE of A through to C was considered to be the equivalent of a scrape pass in GCE O Level.

Where is the actual improvement gone then, when GCSEs replaced GCE O Levels way back during 1988 approximately?
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Message 1212976 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 20:57:30 UTC - in response to Message 1212973.  

Interesting, here in the states, that argument might just as well be with Teapublicans who seem to think that creationism is science.



Years ago I had a row with a Labour politician about Grammar schools and education standards.


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Message 1212977 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 20:57:52 UTC - in response to Message 1212973.  

Years ago I had a row with a Labour politician about Grammar schools and education standards.

My main point was I was not going to jeopardize my childrens education for Educational Political dogma.


Regarding increasing educational attainment reported year after year.

Remember GCE "O" Levels, and the parallel exam of GCSEs?

A good attainment in GCSE of A through to C was considered to be the equivalent of a scrape pass in GCE O Level.

Where is the actual improvement gone then?



What? You mean my 5 "O's" (all b's) & 2 GCE's (1xb & 1xc) are now the equivalent of GCSE e's?

Damn, why did I bother going to school!
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Message 1212979 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 21:01:33 UTC - in response to Message 1212977.  

What? You mean my 5 "O's" (all b's) & 2 GCE's (1xb & 1xc) are now the equivalent of GCSE e's?


Actually those 16 year old academic qualifications are now likely to be the equivalent of a pass degree from one of the new Universities (or Unis).
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Message 1212988 - Posted: 1 Apr 2012, 21:12:25 UTC

Now showing on the BBC news.....

The coalition government stated on their election trail that they would reduce the "big brother" as it was too much.....

turnabout time.....

New laws to monitor web use & other tech comms

typical muppets....totally mallable!


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Message 1213141 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 6:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 1212909.  
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God, don't tempt me on this one....I'd get banned!!


I've been pretty forthright in many threads about today's useless parents, and ineffectual education. Not been banned yet. Provided you talk sensibly it is OK to say what you think. But perhaps not in this thread please, this about the UK Government.

Give me a PM.


Offer graciously declined Chris, there are more fruitful topics worthy of
discussion here that will keep me in a more melancholy frame of mind.
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Message 1213203 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 14:27:26 UTC
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Getting back to Cameron, I see the current Private Eye (#1310) has the following:

Private Eye wrote:
"It is hard to believe that we need government regulations on issues such as ice cream van musical jingles," wrote David Cameron to ministers at the launch of his Red Tape Challenge last April, promising to cut burdensome regulations.

So it's reassuring to see the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has now launched a 24-page survey, consulting on the "code of practice on noise from ice cream van chimes etc" to be filled in by any interested parties in the food and environmental health sector who can be bothered.

The consultation lists a number of ways the code could be tinkered with - including allowing a slight increase in the maximum length of musical chimes to 12 seconds and permitting slightly later chiming (based on anecdotal evidence that children now go to bed after 7pm) as well as widening the rules slightly to allow some other sellers of "perishable food" to use chimes. All very interesting... but, alas, none of the options in the consultation actually proposes getting rid of a single regulation.


And if anybody thinks a 24-page consultation document on ice cream van chimes might be an April Fool, here's the link http://www.defra.gov.uk/consult/files/ice-cream-van-condoc-120308.pdf. The document does include an option to scrap the code entirely, though states that this option is not the preferred choice of industry.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1213285 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 18:39:43 UTC

To go back to the budget and pensions, it seems that in last years (2011) budget the chancellor stated that the age related tax allowance was to remain for the duration of this parliment.

'Granny tax': Government promised last year to keep raising pensioners' allowances from the Telegraph.
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Message 1215084 - Posted: 7 Apr 2012, 12:29:14 UTC

Personally, I think if politicians have nothing of value to say, they should stfu! If they did so, laughs a minute like this would not occur....

Maude at it again
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Message 1216920 - Posted: 11 Apr 2012, 17:34:34 UTC

Actually have a think about this. The REAL offshore financial centres and tax havens like the Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Cayman Islands etc all have thriving economies due to their status. I reckon the UK could do with a bit of that. If people from all over the world flooded in here to register their companies, it would bring in much needed income to us.


Still, if we were a tax haven then the government would only waste the revenue gained.
To the governments mind, a bigger economy would need protecting so
more money would be spent on creating a bigger army, navy and air force.
A bigger economy would to them mean more money available to spend on non-productive social causes.
With an ever growing economy then the government can get away with this type
of expenditure but once the economy starts to shrink the money needed to
maintain these luxuries has to be taken from the working populous via added
taxation to that already being extracted. Committing oneself to a certain
level of social spending becomes a financial millstone around your neck eventually
in time. One day someone will have to pull the plug on this, leave it too late
and the whole of the UK will end up getting sucked down the plug-hole.

...anyone fancy a piece of my chocie Easter egg?




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Message 1216944 - Posted: 11 Apr 2012, 18:19:34 UTC - in response to Message 1216926.  

You been reading the Mail again?

;-))


Don't tell me they've stolen my line yet again?



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