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Message 1208409 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 9:46:02 UTC

My APv6.0 units run time in 160 hours (est) at first. Then even before it started running the first new APv6.0 an ajustment happened run time 26 hours(est).

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Message 1208456 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 15:18:13 UTC - in response to Message 1208409.

My APv6.0 units run time in 160 hours (est) at first. Then even before it started running the first new APv6.0 an ajustment happened run time 26 hours(est).

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That's a very interesting post - many thanks for passing on the observation.

It prompted me to trigger a resend on a test machine:

14-Mar-2012 00:40:43 [SETI@home] [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 774936 seconds
21-Mar-2012 14:32:11 [SETI@home] [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 125990 seconds

for the same task, (re-)allocated under the same conditions. I'd be interested to know what changed.

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Message 1208467 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 15:51:01 UTC - in response to Message 1208456.

My APv6.0 units run time in 160 hours (est) at first. Then even before it started running the first new APv6.0 an ajustment happened run time 26 hours(est).

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That's a very interesting post - many thanks for passing on the observation.

It prompted me to trigger a resend on a test machine:

14-Mar-2012 00:40:43 [SETI@home] [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 774936 seconds
21-Mar-2012 14:32:11 [SETI@home] [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 125990 seconds

for the same task, (re-)allocated under the same conditions. I'd be interested to know what changed.

For stock applications, the Scheduler does an approximation of projected flops at about line 370 in sched_version.cpp which causes that early adjustment. Note that since the projected flops is sent to the client as <flops> for the app_version, it immediately affects all tasks assigned to be done with that app_version.
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Message 1209036 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 22:09:14 UTC - in response to Message 1208467.

The astropulse tasks are no joke. ( 40-50 hours) Compared to the regular 2 hour projects. Although, bring them on.

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Message 1209051 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 22:52:36 UTC - in response to Message 1209036.

The astropulse tasks are no joke. ( 40-50 hours) Compared to the regular 2 hour projects. Although, bring them on.

No they're no joke but with the old v505 my 2500K @ stock chews through them in around 6.5hrs. :D

I'm patiently waiting for the new Lunatics installer to find out how it handles v6.

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Message 1209052 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 22:58:11 UTC - in response to Message 1209051.

The astropulse tasks are no joke. ( 40-50 hours) Compared to the regular 2 hour projects. Although, bring them on.

No they're no joke but with the old v505 my 2500K @ stock chews through them in around 6.5hrs. :D

I'm patiently waiting for the new Lunatics installer to find out how it handles v6.

Cheers.

Very nice! My 980 chews through the v505 tasks in 7.5 hours at 4.2 GHz.

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Message 1209105 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 0:38:40 UTC - in response to Message 1209051.

I'm patiently waiting for the new Lunatics installer to find out how it handles v6.

Cheers.

Still waiting for David to explain why he asked Eric to withdraw his approval, I'm afraid.

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Message 1209109 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 0:47:10 UTC - in response to Message 1209105.

I'm patiently waiting for the new Lunatics installer to find out how it handles v6.

Cheers.

Still waiting for David to explain why he asked Eric to withdraw his approval, I'm afraid.


and you do know David NEVER/RARELY posts in these forums, right?
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Message 1209112 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 0:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 1209051.

should I reply in slow motion? lol very nice

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Message 1209124 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 1:27:04 UTC - in response to Message 1209109.

I'm patiently waiting for the new Lunatics installer to find out how it handles v6.

Cheers.

Still waiting for David to explain why he asked Eric to withdraw his approval, I'm afraid.

and you do know David NEVER/RARELY posts in these forums, right?

Yes. Which is why the entire conversation was conducted by email. For example:

From: "David Anderson"
To: "Richard Haselgrove"
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: AP v6

> BTW:
> I haven't yet looked at the problem where jobs processed
> with anonymous platform were being granted zero credit.
> I'll try to get to this soon.
> -- David

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Message 1209133 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 1:33:14 UTC
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Thank you for relaying the message Richard.... It was much appreciated.

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Message 1209167 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 4:54:30 UTC - in response to Message 1209036.

The astropulse tasks are no joke. ( 40-50 hours) Compared to the regular 2 hour projects. Although, bring them on.


Back in 1999 we were aiming at 150 hours for the jobs that now take 2 (and do more processing.) When we were starting to do Astropulse, we were aiming for jobs taking a month. Gotta love that Moore's Law.

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Message 1209171 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 5:01:15 UTC - in response to Message 1209124.

Yeah, I'm still trying to dig up the symptoms for the zero credit bit. I think it was a bad BOINC client version requesting 0 credit for anonymous platform (which always comes in as the low bidder, and so the wingman gets 0 credit, too). But it's possible that it's in the validator somewhere, too. So I'll dig a bit more over the weekend.

Regarding the MacOS version, I have a working powerpc version, but I've run into some snags with the x86 version. I can't even test the powerpc version in beta because people with MacOS 10.5 x86 and earlier will get the powerpc version and will run it in powerpc emulation. The would be bad. I have to release the x86 version first and then I can release powerpc when the correction factors start being applicable.

Then there's GPU versions, but there's only so many hours in the day.
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Message 1209186 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 5:44:00 UTC - in response to Message 1209105.

I'm patiently waiting for the new Lunatics installer to find out how it handles v6.

Cheers.

Still waiting for David to explain why he asked Eric to withdraw his approval, I'm afraid.

I can be patient for as long as it takes. ;)

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Message 1210198 - Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 2:50:59 UTC - in response to Message 1209167.

Well then...150 hours....I'll take the 50 ; )

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Message 1210241 - Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 7:50:33 UTC

well, I have at SETI@Beta somewhere after Feb 5'th the tasks started to validate.
Before that they validated at random.

I was at the time running ATI ap app .534 .539 .540 and was using BM 7.x.11/12 at the time.

I can't from where I sit see any logic in the 0credit validation.
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Message 1210542 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 0:53:23 UTC - in response to Message 1210241.

The MacOS versions are in beta. We don't have a huge number of Macs attached there, so Mac users are encouraged to join.
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Message 1210544 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 0:56:26 UTC - in response to Message 1210542.
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I am attached their and will get work as I find it. I only have a C2D so it won't be a lot or fast but I will switch to asking for Astropulse on Beta.

Edit I know I asked for Astropulse on OSX so I have switched to only ask for the new version of Astropulse on Beta to help test faster. Thank you for your time and effort supporting OSX. I have 10 projects on my little machine so my RAC on SETI Beta is not the highest but you got it all to test the betas.
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Message 1210571 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 2:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 1210544.

I am attached their and will get work as I find it. I only have a C2D so it won't be a lot or fast but I will switch to asking for Astropulse on Beta.

Edit I know I asked for Astropulse on OSX so I have switched to only ask for the new version of Astropulse on Beta to help test faster. Thank you for your time and effort supporting OSX. I have 10 projects on my little machine so my RAC on SETI Beta is not the highest but you got it all to test the betas.

Unfortunately it is not possible to switch to only asking for Astropulse v6 work at Beta. You have to check the "accept work from other applications" option. The good news is that when there are AP v6 tasks available, you'll get some even though there are 170000 SaH v7 tasks also ready to send.

Eric, might it be possible to get the selection updated during the Tuesday outage?
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Message 1210583 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 3:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 1210571.

I am attached their and will get work as I find it. I only have a C2D so it won't be a lot or fast but I will switch to asking for Astropulse on Beta.

Edit I know I asked for Astropulse on OSX so I have switched to only ask for the new version of Astropulse on Beta to help test faster. Thank you for your time and effort supporting OSX. I have 10 projects on my little machine so my RAC on SETI Beta is not the highest but you got it all to test the betas.

Unfortunately it is not possible to switch to only asking for Astropulse v6 work at Beta. You have to check the "accept work from other applications" option. The good news is that when there are AP v6 tasks available, you'll get some even though there are 170000 SaH v7 tasks also ready to send.

Eric, might it be possible to get the selection updated during the Tuesday outage?
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Yeah I have Astropulse only check but ended up with a V7 MB instead. so looks like the first one I could run is in a day or 2 depending how work requests work out. I never kill a WU that I am given so looks like I'm out for a while.
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