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I think the police should stop every emergency vehicle displaying blue lights and examine the certificate of blue switch flicking awards held by the drivers/operators. In fact a plaque of flick excellence credentials should be displayed in every vehicle fitted with flickable blue lights, and appropriate insurance should be held for such extras fitted to said vehicles. ____________ | |
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LOL Be funny to see them stopping themselves.... ____________ | |
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Oh do be sensible guys. You know very well that the phrase Blue lights can only be switched on by those specifically trained to do sodoes not refer to physically flicking a switch, it refers to drivers having been trained to drive emergency vehicles at high speeds with the Blues & Twos operating. This applies not only to ambulances but also to police cars and fire engines. I am a little sad that you appear take a serious matter so jocularly. I only hope that you never have a heart attack and the ambulance driver says sorry mate, can't switch the lights on, only have a certificate for 30mph. | |
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refers to drivers having been trained to drive emergency vehicles at high speeds with the Blues & Twos operating. I don't think any ambulance of fire engine driver is trained to drive at high speeds through heavilly populated towns or cities like London. An ambulance driver is a medical officer who does not go into Ferrari driver mode when driving an ambulance. He is subject to all laws and speed limits the any driver in London. If a fire engine driver exceeds the speed limits he is subject to causing death by dangerous driving the same as any London driver. He has no right to go through red lights and is breaking the law if he approaches a zebra crossing with people nearby too fast, the same as anyone driving recklessly. The same applies to police car drivers. They are not above the law. There is one exception, who train to drive vehicals at high speed through towns. They are the motor cyclists who get VIPs at high speed from, e.g., Heathrow to Buckingham palace without the VIP vehicals stopping even once, racing past the VIPs again and again to bar the traffic for the continually moving VIP vehicles. ____________ | |
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refers to drivers having been trained to drive emergency vehicles at high speeds with the Blues & Twos operating. Just goes to prove that old maxim... "one law for us & one law for them" ____________ | |
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refers to drivers having been trained to drive emergency vehicles at high speeds with the Blues & Twos operating. Not quite:
UK Law has these provisions in various traffic acts, for example, the Section 87 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 states: No statutory provision imposing a speed limit on motor vehicles shall apply to any vehicle on an occasion when it is being used for fire and rescue authority, ambulance or police purposes, if the observance of that provision would be likely to hinder the use of the vehicle for the purpose for which it is being used on that occasion. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... | |
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Police exemption from speed limits..... | |
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Police exemption from speed limits..... That is a lot of deaths!! I did not realise they were so high...thank goodness that Police cars use sirens and blue flashing lights else these figures would be far-far higher? ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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No quite. It's got nothing to do with blue lights and no statute specifies that you can do the above if you have a blue light. What the law say is the you must not do certain things (like those you indicated above) unless "where there is an emergency". And you don't have to be a policeman, fireman, ambulance man or even an ordinary man. Even an ordinary woman can exceed the speed limits "in an emergency". No blue light or any kind of light is mandatory or necessary. For example highway code 264 (highway codes are based on law) says "You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police". The 'you' could be anybody without a blue light. ____________ | |
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"it's a great show". Armed officers from the Metropolitan police and the Royal Marines hammering along the Thames in speedboats and helicopters, ground-to-air missiles scanning the skies, hovering spy drones scanning the land, security services scanning the internet for nascent plots or cyber attacks – it's all being co-ordinated by a bevy of Olympic-themed security agencies. | |
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"it's a great show". Armed officers from the Metropolitan police and the Royal Marines hammering along the Thames in speedboats and helicopters, ground-to-air missiles scanning the skies, hovering spy drones scanning the land, security services scanning the internet for nascent plots or cyber attacks – it's all being co-ordinated by a bevy of Olympic-themed security agencies. Well, at least we all can feel safe whilst the Olympics are on. Metropolitan police and the Royal Marines hammering along the Thames in speedboats and helicopters Good, that should keep the Somali pirot's away...don't wont them trying to cash-in on events. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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Well, at least we all can feel safe whilst the Olympics are on. Well as best we are able to Nick. The recent exercises are designed to give the emergency services with as much first hand experience as possible to deal with a real life event should it happen. It is also sending a useful message out as a deterrent. I just feel that it is a shame that some sections of the left wing press seek to denigrate it. Still I suppose we shouldn't expect much better from the open toed sandal brigade should we. | |
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From my experience an unmarked police car does not have to obey the traffic laws (within reason) if they are (for example) following another vehicle as part of an operation. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams | |
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I just feel that it is a shame that some sections of the left wing press seek to denigrate it. Still I suppose we shouldn't expect much better from the open toed sandal brigade should we. Do this lot still drive around in "Saabs"?? ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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From my experience an unmarked police car does not have to obey the traffic laws (within reason) if they are (for example) following another vehicle as part of an operation. I don't know for sure Es but I would suspect so. It's all about common sense isn't it. If we want emergency vehicles to do their job, then we have to accept that certain rules that apply to the rest of us will not apply to them. | |
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From my experience an unmarked police car does not have to obey the traffic laws (within reason) if they are (for example) following another vehicle as part of an operation. Of course the police and drivers of emergency services have to obey the law and are not above the law. But as Es points out "(within reason)". If there is evidence that a police or any emergency service were breaking the law when they had no sufficient reason to do so they get prosecuted the same as jo public. The police cannot just speed and flaunt the law because they are police and just because they are driving an unmarked police vehicle. ____________ | |
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From my experience an unmarked police car does not have to obey the traffic laws (within reason) if they are (for example) following another vehicle as part of an operation. I remember when an unmarked police are drove into the front of a local cafe during a police chase. Fortunately no one was hurt, but there were a lot of very angry people who'd been sitting there with children when it happened. It could have been very bad. I don't know what the outcome of that was, and whether the police were found to be behaving recklessly. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams | |
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I'm trying to formulate our Prime Ministers post Olympics speech for him. | |
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You missed 7). Britain won a shed load of medals and don't we all feel so proud ____________ | |
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I would feel much prouder if the UK was able to maintain it's tripple A rating status within the financial comunity at large. Should then lead to more people here keeping their jobs, the Olympics wont feed them what ever the results gained by the UK. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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