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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
refers to drivers having been trained to drive emergency vehicles at high speeds with the Blues & Twos operating. Just goes to prove that old maxim... "one law for us & one law for them" |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
refers to drivers having been trained to drive emergency vehicles at high speeds with the Blues & Twos operating. Not quite:
UK Law has these provisions in various traffic acts, for example, the Section 87 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 states: No statutory provision imposing a speed limit on motor vehicles shall apply to any vehicle on an occasion when it is being used for fire and rescue authority, ambulance or police purposes, if the observance of that provision would be likely to hinder the use of the vehicle for the purpose for which it is being used on that occasion. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Police exemption from speed limits..... Police RTI's Bent cops.....there is quite a lot to focus on in this link, however scroll down about 20% for traffic offences... featured Cops The 2012 Olympics is going to be a "Happy hour" for the type of incidents in the links provided.... ...just wondering how many will be published? Probably ZERO as it would be bad publicity for London at that time & when the games are over, watch them get brushed under the carpets...... |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Police exemption from speed limits..... That is a lot of deaths!! I did not realise they were so high...thank goodness that Police cars use sirens and blue flashing lights else these figures would be far-far higher? The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
GalaxyIce Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0 |
No quite. It's got nothing to do with blue lights and no statute specifies that you can do the above if you have a blue light. What the law say is the you must not do certain things (like those you indicated above) unless "where there is an emergency". And you don't have to be a policeman, fireman, ambulance man or even an ordinary man. Even an ordinary woman can exceed the speed limits "in an emergency". No blue light or any kind of light is mandatory or necessary. For example highway code 264 (highway codes are based on law) says "You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police". The 'you' could be anybody without a blue light. flaming balloons |
GalaxyIce Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0 |
"it's a great show". Armed officers from the Metropolitan police and the Royal Marines hammering along the Thames in speedboats and helicopters, ground-to-air missiles scanning the skies, hovering spy drones scanning the land, security services scanning the internet for nascent plots or cyber attacks – it's all being co-ordinated by a bevy of Olympic-themed security agencies. "security costs now stand at £553m." [link] flaming balloons |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
"it's a great show". Armed officers from the Metropolitan police and the Royal Marines hammering along the Thames in speedboats and helicopters, ground-to-air missiles scanning the skies, hovering spy drones scanning the land, security services scanning the internet for nascent plots or cyber attacks – it's all being co-ordinated by a bevy of Olympic-themed security agencies. Well, at least we all can feel safe whilst the Olympics are on. Metropolitan police and the Royal Marines hammering along the Thames in speedboats and helicopters Good, that should keep the Somali pirot's away...don't wont them trying to cash-in on events. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
From my experience an unmarked police car does not have to obey the traffic laws (within reason) if they are (for example) following another vehicle as part of an operation. Reality Internet Personality |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
I just feel that it is a shame that some sections of the left wing press seek to denigrate it. Still I suppose we shouldn't expect much better from the open toed sandal brigade should we. Do this lot still drive around in "Saabs"?? The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
GalaxyIce Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0 |
From my experience an unmarked police car does not have to obey the traffic laws (within reason) if they are (for example) following another vehicle as part of an operation. Of course the police and drivers of emergency services have to obey the law and are not above the law. But as Es points out "(within reason)". If there is evidence that a police or any emergency service were breaking the law when they had no sufficient reason to do so they get prosecuted the same as jo public. The police cannot just speed and flaunt the law because they are police and just because they are driving an unmarked police vehicle. flaming balloons |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
From my experience an unmarked police car does not have to obey the traffic laws (within reason) if they are (for example) following another vehicle as part of an operation. I remember when an unmarked police are drove into the front of a local cafe during a police chase. Fortunately no one was hurt, but there were a lot of very angry people who'd been sitting there with children when it happened. It could have been very bad. I don't know what the outcome of that was, and whether the police were found to be behaving recklessly. Reality Internet Personality |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
I'm trying to formulate our Prime Ministers post Olympics speech for him. I have started to list a few good pointers for the P.M. to emphasise upon. Yet doing so has lead to a reality check on my part. Pointers:- 1). A resounding success 2). Robust security measures proved crucial 3). Massive benefits to the community as a whole 4). Came within budget 5). A legacy for future generations to benefit from 6). Put Britain back on the face of the map by showing the world what we can do Reality: 1). Seemed just like any other Olympics held in the past. 2). al-Qaeda groups take their holidays this time of year plus their not into sport anyway, but only in the drugs that they sell to the participants. 3). No one lives there yet, so no community to consult upon any benefits experienced 4). Which budget, the first one set or the last one. 5). A legacy of extra tax's to pay to subsidise/maintain all the leftover unused facilities 6). Were called the London Olympics so at best only put England back on the map I think I best give up on writing political speeches....to damned painful. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
GalaxyIce Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0 |
You missed 7). Britain won a shed load of medals and don't we all feel so proud flaming balloons |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
I would feel much prouder if the UK was able to maintain it's tripple A rating status within the financial comunity at large. Should then lead to more people here keeping their jobs, the Olympics wont feed them what ever the results gained by the UK. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Everyone might as well go on holiday for a few weeks as it seems we're going to be gridlocked, not just on the roads but on the Internet as well...... Net Gridlock/Capping? |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Everyone might as well go on holiday for a few weeks as it seem...... A move I've already taken, Sirius. With Woodrow Wyatt's Journals to read over this period to keep me well occupied and away from the traffic congestion that we may have to suffer. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Does this mean my dial up ISP account will suffer from contention? It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
A move I've already taken, Sirius. With Woodrow Wyatt's Journals to read over this period Oooohh....back copies. What are they? I'm an up to date old fart...I go online.. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
No problem. I'm a gracious old fart, I let the young enjoy the same pleasures I did at their age, rather than inhibit them like many old fogeys are doing at the moment. |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
A move I've already taken, Sirius. With Woodrow Wyatt's Journals to read over this period Sirius, can you loan me some back copies of the Mail, please... The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
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