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Message 1206191 - Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 16:44:59 UTC - in response to Message 1206157.

Nope neither, rather a case of major optimism which got itself nailed by realism. I am so glad that the TeaPublican realities are all future fact based with no expectations reflecting a bias.

The Democratic Congress generated health-insurance reform bill (the amount of health care reform in the bill was piteously small), which Obama signed is deeply flawed. Some on the right would argue that doing nothing was just fine, some on the left would argue that doing a lot more (particularly in terms of single payer and actual health care reform) was needed.

Instead we got the love (or hate) child of the American political process, where a handful of Senators (particularly conservative Democrats) got their hot button changes included in the bill.

It does make for excellent talking head action though.



Ooops, a minor miscalculation? Or major deception? You decide.
Obummercare costs double according to CBO.


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Message 1206297 - Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 22:12:36 UTC - in response to Message 1206157.
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Ooops, a minor miscalculation? Or major deception? You decide.
Obummercare costs double according to CBO.

Oh, and that's not just Fox news spin.....
Washington Examiner.


Or without the spin, the new CBO figures for spending between 2012 and 2021 are about 5% higher than they were a year ago:

That works out to a $51 billion increase in the gross cost of expanding coverage from what the CBO estimated a year ago.

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Message 1207730 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 3:50:39 UTC

I do have one question that keeps nagging me.

The Republican Party has some very bright, dedicated, honest members who genuinely want the best for the entire country. I have many friends and family members who have proudly called themselves Republicans for many years. Now, I don't always agree with them and they don't always agree with me, but they are very good people.

They are now divided into two camps. The first (smaller) group have decided to vote for Obama. The economy is improving and they believe that with the notable exception of Afghanistan, his handling of foreign policy and the now defunct "War on Terror" has been good. The fact that Osama now swims with the fishes earns him favorable marks.

The second (much larger) group is planning on taking a pass on the Presidential Election entirely. As one friend put it "From a country of over 320 million divided pretty much down the middle, the best the Republican Party can field are Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney?? WTF???"

Frankly, this year the Republicans remind me of the 1972 Democrats.


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Message 1207741 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 5:03:22 UTC - in response to Message 1207730.

Frankly, this year the Republicans remind me of the 1972 Democrats.

Yes, seems as if the party wants to make sure none of its candidates are electable.
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Message 1207753 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 6:30:46 UTC

Don't Worry Broheims, The Election will be A Real Humdinger.

Once Billion Bucks goes against Billion Bucks, The Sheeple and Zombies will Be Flocking and Frothing To The Booths to Throw The Lever.

I'm Looking Forward to the Ugly Nastiness of It.

May The Better of The Worst Win.

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Message 1207768 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 9:05:18 UTC - in response to Message 1207753.

May The Better of The Worst Win.


It will be the lesser of two weasels

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Message 1207825 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 14:20:57 UTC - in response to Message 1207753.

Don't Worry Broheims, The Election will be A Real Humdinger.

Once Billion Bucks goes against Billion Bucks, The Sheeple and Zombies will Be Flocking and Frothing To The Booths to Throw The Lever.

I'm Looking Forward to the Ugly Nastiness of It.

May The Better of The Worst Win.

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Those of us not born until the very late 60s do not want a rehash of the 60s culture wars, any more than we want to relive 1972 and the gas lines.
P.S.-Grecian Formula sucks, try pomade. ;)

Message 1207906 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 17:06:55 UTC

relive 1972 and the gas lines


I'm all for that SargeE4. Since I was first in line and The Gas I pumped into My Motorcycle was Only 26 Cents.

Yeah, ready to Go Back In Time Broheim.

You? No. Guess The Sand Box and Plastic Toys were'nt that much fun.

When I drove across The US in My Van, Way Back in Late '73, I still filled up in The Mid/Upper 30 Cents range.

So yeah. Full Head of Hair. No Gray/White. Slim Tight Bod. Virile. Some Chicks interested. All those possible years ahead of me.

Also, The Great, One and Only Tricky Dick As Our Master-In-Chief. YeeeeHaaaaaw.

Yep. Where's The Delorian Broheim?

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Message 1207942 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 18:06:34 UTC - in response to Message 1207906.

relive 1972 and the gas lines


I'm all for that SargeE4. Since I was first in line and The Gas I pumped into My Motorcycle was Only 26 Cents.

Yeah, ready to Go Back In Time Broheim.

You? No. Guess The Sand Box and Plastic Toys were'nt that much fun.

When I drove across The US in My Van, Way Back in Late '73, I still filled up in The Mid/Upper 30 Cents range.

So yeah. Full Head of Hair. No Gray/White. Slim Tight Bod. Virile. Some Chicks interested. All those possible years ahead of me.

Also, The Great, One and Only Tricky Dick As Our Master-In-Chief. YeeeeHaaaaaw.

Yep. Where's The Delorian Broheim?

Loving1972DullNando


Hurricane Agnes turned the sandbox into a horizontal mudslide.

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Message 1207944 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 18:07:04 UTC - in response to Message 1207942.

relive 1972 and the gas lines


I'm all for that SargeE4. Since I was first in line and The Gas I pumped into My Motorcycle was Only 26 Cents.

Yeah, ready to Go Back In Time Broheim.

You? No. Guess The Sand Box and Plastic Toys were'nt that much fun.

When I drove across The US in My Van, Way Back in Late '73, I still filled up in The Mid/Upper 30 Cents range.

So yeah. Full Head of Hair. No Gray/White. Slim Tight Bod. Virile. Some Chicks interested. All those possible years ahead of me.

Also, The Great, One and Only Tricky Dick As Our Master-In-Chief. YeeeeHaaaaaw.

Yep. Where's The Delorian Broheim?

Loving1972DullNando


Hurricane Agnes turned the sandbox into a horizontal mudslide.


And, yes, I remember it.

Message 1208043 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 21:41:44 UTC

And, yes, I remember it.


Wow! As a 6 Year Old, your Vocab was what by then, 100,000 words?

I remember Almost Nothing as a 6 year old, 'cept where I lived. Frankfurt.

I heard Agnes was a Mo FO for The Mountain/Hill/Valley Peoples. Cities way Down Da Riva got a Whacking also. Bad Shat Broheim.

Too Bad The Potomac didn't wash 'ole Dick Out To Sea.

Hey, Dickie got a Second Term, so Nothing's Impossible for 'Ole Big Ears or Camerroooon.

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Message 1208044 - Posted: 19 Mar 2012, 21:45:18 UTC - in response to Message 1207906.

relive 1972 and the gas lines


I'm all for that SargeE4. Since I was first in line and The Gas I pumped into My Motorcycle was Only 26 Cents.

Yeah, ready to Go Back In Time Broheim.

You? No. Guess The Sand Box and Plastic Toys were'nt that much fun.

When I drove across The US in My Van, Way Back in Late '73, I still filled up in The Mid/Upper 30 Cents range.

So yeah. Full Head of Hair. No Gray/White. Slim Tight Bod. Virile. Some Chicks interested. All those possible years ahead of me.

Also, The Great, One and Only Tricky Dick As Our Master-In-Chief. YeeeeHaaaaaw.

Yep. Where's The Delorian Broheim?

Loving1972DullNando


We are 3 years away from the second coming of Doc Brown & Marty.
Oh, and Just for Men works better than Grecian formula. ;)

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Message 1208171 - Posted: 20 Mar 2012, 5:58:27 UTC

I was going to vote for Cain if he would offer me a free pizza. Sadly, it was not meant to be.
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Message 1208283 - Posted: 20 Mar 2012, 23:14:54 UTC

I agree that Cain would have been a good choice. Let's get people in political positions who have had a real job. I've voted for the last 40 years and I must admit though that in the last 10 years or so I feel like I've been aiding and abetting in a criminal activity every I pull the lever.

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Message 1208289 - Posted: 20 Mar 2012, 23:34:19 UTC - in response to Message 1208283.

I feel like I've been aiding and abetting in a criminal activity every I pull the lever


Every time I fill up I wonder if i am paying for another roadside bomb or an RPG

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Message 1208291 - Posted: 20 Mar 2012, 23:44:27 UTC - in response to Message 1208289.

I feel like I've been aiding and abetting in a criminal activity every I pull the lever


Every time I fill up I wonder if i am paying for another roadside bomb or an RPG

LOL, no, you are just participating in the redistribution of the wealth of us all to the select hands of the few. One might say it is sort of like socialism in reverse. The irony is we subsidize these corporations.
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Message 1208581 - Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 21:50:45 UTC - in response to Message 1208283.

I agree that Cain would have been a good choice.


I'm not entirely sure. I was very hopeful for Cain, but after listening to him talk several times it seemed like he was more concerned with memorizing the right things to say, rather than actually having a grasp on what's going on in the world. Maybe it was just a case of stage fright, as it were, but it left me with a bad impression. Regardless, it hardly matters now.
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Message 1208716 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 4:16:39 UTC - in response to Message 1206051.

And beside, Paul Ryan brings to mind one of our favorite TV characters...


Ears and all.
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Message 1208815 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 13:26:19 UTC

'm glad the 1% can waste their money on thousands of Etch-a-Sketches to hand out at campaign events. Now THAT's a sure sign of being a "fiscal conserbative".

BTW, class warfare is waged by those that can afford the weapons.

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