Canadian government is 'muzzling its scientists'

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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6816 Credit: 17,136,231 RAC: 26,608	Message 1196444 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012, 20:43:03 UTC
	Report from the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16861468
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archangel Send message Joined: 25 Apr 01 Posts: 62 Credit: 1,840,710 RAC: 0	Message 1196515 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012, 23:43:36 UTC - in response to Message 1196444.
	Well... After the gross misconduct of 'scientists' worldwide, exposing them as the grant-whores many of them are, producing faulty work, and covering up honest dissent by ruthless and destructive means, it would be only prudent to muzzle them. Honestly, i would like to see science take a step back, into the privately funded, philanthropic endeavor which is necessary for honest results. Offering 100 million dollar grants for a pointed study which, "Determines the effects of global warming on male ego", not only presupposes the existence of global warming, but is almost certain to get you a result that will warrant another 100 million dollar study... ____________
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Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 7339 Credit: 211,277 RAC: 263	Message 1196921 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 18:31:39 UTC - in response to Message 1196515.
	Well... After the gross misconduct of 'scientists' worldwide, exposing them as the grant-whores many of them are, producing faulty work, and covering up honest dissent by ruthless and destructive means, it would be only prudent to muzzle them. Honestly, i would like to see science take a step back, into the privately funded, philanthropic endeavor which is necessary for honest results. Offering 100 million dollar grants for a pointed study which, "Determines the effects of global warming on male ego", not only presupposes the existence of global warming, but is almost certain to get you a result that will warrant another 100 million dollar study... oh...my..god... They really got to you didn't they? There was no 'gross misconduct'. That was shown to be a propaganda stunt funded by the oil companies to muddy an issue that isn't muddy at all. If you hate scientists so much why are you even on this project? And please tell me who gets these 100 million dollar grants. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
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Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 7339 Credit: 211,277 RAC: 263	Message 1196925 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 18:36:57 UTC - in response to Message 1196444.
	Report from the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16861468 They want to be able to exploit all the Alberta oil. Anything that tells them that this is a bad idea is going to be shot down. You just have to look at how they handle the asbestos industry here. Money talks. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
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archangel Send message Joined: 25 Apr 01 Posts: 62 Credit: 1,840,710 RAC: 0	Message 1196941 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 19:35:49 UTC - in response to Message 1196921. Last modified: 18 Feb 2012, 19:36:29 UTC
	I can see you posted on the discussion board without any intention of actually engaging in a discussion, so i will leave you to enjoy your post. That said, I take people at their word. When i read an email written by a man, who discusses corrupt behavior for the purposes of corrupting a process, i accept his own words on it. Enjoy your posting with yourself. Cheers!~ As a Canadian i apologize to the rest of the "World" for the the government we at present have. As an American, i do the same!~ ____________
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archangel Send message Joined: 25 Apr 01 Posts: 62 Credit: 1,840,710 RAC: 0	Message 1196959 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 20:01:17 UTC - in response to Message 1196956. Last modified: 18 Feb 2012, 20:01:46 UTC
	Yes, 1196921 was your reply to me, and i was replying to you. "Message 1196921 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012 \| 18:31:39 UTC - in response to Message 1196515." 1196515 was my post, so i assumed you were replying to me, and was replying to your reply. If that is not the case, please forgive my misunderstanding. cheers!~ ____________
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22775 Credit: 4,521,983 RAC: 5,695	Message 1196983 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 20:47:27 UTC
	Message 1196921 was from the Seti Goddess Ess99%. Whatever you do "Don't get her mad, you'll be sorry." +1
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10325 Credit: 5,095,135 RAC: 6,241	Message 1196984 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 20:48:30 UTC - in response to Message 1196981.
	I think it has flunked the Turing test. ____________
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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 1704 Credit: 13,303,363 RAC: 6,352	Message 1196992 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 21:05:09 UTC - in response to Message 1196984.
	I think it has flunked the Turing test. Indeed it failed to realize that Es99 was engaging with its comments about "the gross misconduct of 'scientists' worldwide" by highlighting that this is a regurgitation of a line of argument to mask the truth of the matter. The science of those scientists involved in an email "scandal" was sound. The gross misconduct is from those that seek to perpetuate the myth that a few silly emails amount to sufficient grounds for ignoring the science. Seems its blinders aren't confined to "Poor America". ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 1704 Credit: 13,303,363 RAC: 6,352	Message 1196994 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 21:10:18 UTC - in response to Message 1196921.
	And please tell me who gets these 100 million dollar grants. CERN? ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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archangel Send message Joined: 25 Apr 01 Posts: 62 Credit: 1,840,710 RAC: 0	Message 1196997 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 21:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 1196981.
	Yes, 1196921 was your reply to me, and i was replying to you. "Message 1196921 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012 \| 18:31:39 UTC - in response to Message 1196515." 1196515 was my post, so i assumed you were replying to me, and was replying to your reply. If that is not the case, please forgive my misunderstanding. cheers!~ What medication are you on? Whatever it is it's not working. Message 1196921 was from the Seti Goddess Ess99%. Whatever you do "Don't get her mad, you'll be sorry." lol. lol! sorry, my response was to Es99%. Wasn't paying attention to the names, only the post numbers. ____________
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Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 7339 Credit: 211,277 RAC: 263	Message 1197030 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:02:40 UTC - in response to Message 1196994.
	And please tell me who gets these 100 million dollar grants. CERN? That's the only one I can think of....and even then the individual scientists aren't getting that much money. They'd probably be better off going and driving a minicab for a living. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6816 Credit: 17,136,231 RAC: 26,608	Message 1197792 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 15:44:09 UTC
	Cannot help thinking that at least part of the original post might be linked to this. Canada threatens trade war with EU over tar sands
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Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 2340 Credit: 11,691,702 RAC: 386	Message 1206211 - Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 17:38:39 UTC - in response to Message 1196983.
	Message 1196921 was from the Seti Goddess Ess99%. Whatever you do "Don't get her mad, you'll be sorry." +1 +2
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22775 Credit: 4,521,983 RAC: 5,695	Message 1206213 - Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 17:47:03 UTC
	Hi Byron, Don't worry, she got mad, then calmed down. :-)
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