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Message 1196929 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 18:54:24 UTC

As a 23 year pediatric speech pathologist, I can tell you first hand that expressive vocabulary is not such a great measure of real expressive language skills, from about 19 months well through the preschool and early elementary school years. Expressive vocabulary is a huge indicator of socio-economic background in these children. In children about 8 years old and up, I think all expressive vocabulary measures do is identify who likes to read for pleasure and who does not.

If I want to know something about a preschool child's expressive language system, I look at syntax variety and complexity. If I want to know something about an older child's expressive language system, I analyze discourse cohesion.

I love words, as you all know, but they do not impress me all that much. Think about it - we go from "wah-wah-wah" at birth to something like "When grandma comes to our house she brings me the green Popsicles, cuz she remembers I like the green ones." (Actual quote from a smart little girl I saw once for some articulation work. She was about four and a half years old at the time.) Now that, my friends, is impressive!
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Message 1197003 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 21:20:39 UTC - in response to Message 1196929.  

As a 23 year pediatric speech pathologist, I can tell you first hand that expressive vocabulary is not such a great measure of real expressive language skills, from about 19 months well through the preschool and early elementary school years. Expressive vocabulary is a huge indicator of socio-economic background in these children. In children about 8 years old and up, I think all expressive vocabulary measures do is identify who likes to read for pleasure and who does not.

If I want to know something about a preschool child's expressive language system, I look at syntax variety and complexity. If I want to know something about an older child's expressive language system, I analyze discourse cohesion.

I love words, as you all know, but they do not impress me all that much. Think about it - we go from "wah-wah-wah" at birth to something like "When grandma comes to our house she brings me the green Popsicles, cuz she remembers I like the green ones." (Actual quote from a smart little girl I saw once for some articulation work. She was about four and a half years old at the time.) Now that, my friends, is impressive!

Very impressive. I've always been amazed at how quickly 4 year olds can train a grandparent.
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Message 1197032 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:04:54 UTC

Couple years later the only thing you can get out of them is, BFF TTUL LOL.
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Message 1197047 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:33:00 UTC

ouch... 9,510
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Message 1197050 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:37:57 UTC - in response to Message 1197047.  
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ouch... 9,510


Sirius, you must have been trying to answer the French version of this test.
I made the same mistake too and only managed to get a score of 6?
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Message 1197051 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 1197050.  

ouch... 9,510


Sirius, you must have been trying to answer the French version of this test.



that must be it then. Need some new glasses, I could've sworn it was the English version I was on.......then again, it could've been the Scottish version....
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Message 1197055 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1197051.  
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ouch... 9,510


Sirius, you must have been trying to answer the French version of this test.



that must be it then. Need some new glasses, I could've sworn it was the English version I was on.......then again, it could've been the Scottish version....


It couldn't have been the Scottish version for the word "Independence" does not appear in the test sheets...
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Message 1197066 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 23:03:05 UTC - in response to Message 1197061.  

lolwut ? there is a french version ???

There was, but the French government got it taken down because it had too many non-french words in it ;-)
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Message 1197069 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 23:05:51 UTC

Very impressive. I've always been amazed at how quickly 4 year olds can train a grandparent.

LOL!!!
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Message 1197172 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 3:44:22 UTC - in response to Message 1197067.  

PUBLIC ANNOUCEMENT

All those with a score of 25,000 or over, please make their way to Launch pad 37 where the last Alpha Centauri Shuttle is about to depart.

I am not up for a multi hundred year trip.


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Message 1197174 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 3:46:36 UTC
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Worked for me this time.



I expected higher. In law school one of the things my study group did was to choose 10 words each week from the OED that none of us knew and use them for the week. Really helped build vocabulary. But then when was the last time you attended a bacchian soiree. It was actually counter productive. We were being taught how to write legal opinion in layman English.

Many of the words are archaic, but one thing I enjoy is study of the evolution of language. English is so rich because of the various invasions, Romans, Saxons, Viking, etc. I enjoy reading old English, it's almost Germanic.

Oh where's my ticket to the shuttle.
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Message 1197175 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 3:51:07 UTC - in response to Message 1196929.  

As a 23 year pediatric speech pathologist, I can tell you first hand that expressive vocabulary is not such a great measure of real expressive language skills, from about 19 months well through the preschool and early elementary school years. Expressive vocabulary is a huge indicator of socio-economic background in these children. In children about 8 years old and up, I think all expressive vocabulary measures do is identify who likes to read for pleasure and who does not.

If I want to know something about a preschool child's expressive language system, I look at syntax variety and complexity. If I want to know something about an older child's expressive language system, I analyze discourse cohesion.

I love words, as you all know, but they do not impress me all that much. Think about it - we go from "wah-wah-wah" at birth to something like "When grandma comes to our house she brings me the green Popsicles, cuz she remembers I like the green ones." (Actual quote from a smart little girl I saw once for some articulation work. She was about four and a half years old at the time.) Now that, my friends, is impressive!


At the age of 3 my daughter blew me away once. A cashier at the local health food store offered here a lolly pop. She responded, "Yes, I believe I would enjoy one."
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Message 1197691 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 10:07:50 UTC

30,200 - and I'm not a native speaker.
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Message 1197797 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 15:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 1197691.  

30,200 - and I'm not a native speaker.

I don't speak any of the native American languages either.


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Message 1197821 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 16:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 1197808.  

I speak Double Dutch and Fluent Rubbish.


It's all Greek to me.
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Message 1197895 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 18:13:16 UTC - in response to Message 1197797.  

30,200 - and I'm not a native speaker.

I don't speak any of the native American languages either.


That would be some rare luck, if anybody here did.

Now I'd like to know how many words I know in my other languages :D
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Message 1197903 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 18:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 1197895.  

30,200 - and I'm not a native speaker.

I don't speak any of the native American languages either.


That would be some rare luck, if anybody here did.

Now I'd like to know how many words I know in my other languages :D

I know a few words (total) of a handful of Native American languages. I grew up in an area that non-transplanted Native Americans, and the anthropology uses some words from their culture to describe objects of theirs. Be warned, however, that other non-English words in the same context are Spanish, not either Tiwa, Tewa, Towa, Keresan, Hopi, or Navajo.


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Message 1197908 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 18:28:27 UTC
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Lets see I speak Basic, A8, ST, Amiga, PC and English...
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Message 1197909 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 18:28:30 UTC - in response to Message 1197904.  

Some men only need 7

"OK you've pulled, my place or yours?

Please expand the first half of the sentence. It must be a bit of slang that I am not familiar with.


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Message 1197910 - Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 18:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 1197908.  
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Lets see I speak Basic, ST, Amiga, PC and English...

Sigh.

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