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Message 1196974 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 20:22:59 UTC - in response to Message 1196972.  

Though, i think you know quite well what you are doing and why you do it...

TAG your're it!



ROFL... That's what i was thinking too.

I'm out, i need pizza...
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Message 1196975 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 20:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 1196969.  
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That 'everyone' is naturally limited to those with a right to vote.

You are peddling in semantics. Obviously women, slaves, visitors traveling through the land would have been excluded in that time period.

Though, i think you know quite well what you are doing and why you do it...


Yes, I am highlighting that your distinction between "Constitutional Republic" and "Democracy" is based on an outmoded idea of what "Democracy" means and an overly restrictive idea of "Republic", and that you do this to claim the USA is not a democracy. If "everyone" obviously means "those with a right to vote", then obviously democracy means "liberal, representative democracy", and the US has that system in place for electing its politicians.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1197005 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 21:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 1196975.  

Democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

The constitutional republic sets 2 houses of wolves and sheep, against another elected wolf / sheep, with an, (ideally), wolf/sheep judicial weighing all laws established by the 3 against a document which guarantees the sheep inalienable rights ordained by a power above what men may take away, and limits the rights of government to enforce certain powers over the sheep, including, but not limited to, being eaten for dinner.

At least this *particular* constitutional republic.
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Message 1197029 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:01:42 UTC

Are there any poor sheep in America? To come to think of it, I've never seen any sheep in America...


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Message 1197034 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 1196980.  

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A "representative democracy" means to have representatives that *you* vote for at the next higher level (and levels) of government ...

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Which is why it is such a shame that current candidates are representatives of whoever paid for them.

Money in politics is currently the biggest threat to US democracy.
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Message 1197044 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 22:26:39 UTC - in response to Message 1197034.  
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A "representative democracy" means to have representatives that *you* vote for at the next higher level (and levels) of government ...

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Which is why it is such a shame that current candidates are representatives of whoever paid for them.

Money in politics is currently the biggest threat to US democracy.

Hang on. If you are saying that people use money to get their candidates to represent them, then it is not money that is the threat, it is the people who use the money that threaten US democracy. Money is the root of all evil and should be removed from the US of A. Forthwith. Just give it all to the poor.

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Message 1197090 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 23:28:36 UTC
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Then how in the same society 3 million people own 50 trillion dollar or 80% of total social wealth and at same time 1.5 million kids homeless hungry some eating rats as their dinner plus 50 million poor people kind of integrate into some form of society?! The real [democracy] or [freedom] things cannot be belong to this formation so this is newer form of fascist society.

3 million millioner satans + 1.5 million homeless children + 50 million abused poor = Fascism

The inequality distribution:




The inequality curviture measure is already beyond any normalcy even before the their recession: which now even more curved




How the 1% abused law and looted american social wealth over time:

Especially most americans would clearly see this figure which clearly reflects realistic historic income flows.

http://www.the-crises.com/wealth-inequality-in-the-us-1/
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Message 1197131 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 0:54:25 UTC - in response to Message 1197090.  

Then how in the same society 3 million people own 50 trillion dollar or 80% of total social wealth and at same time 1.5 million kids homeless hungry some eating rats as their dinner plus 50 million poor people kind of integrate into some form of society?! The real [democracy] or [freedom] things cannot be belong to this formation so this is newer form of fascist society.

3 million millioner satans + 1.5 million homeless children + 50 million abused poor = Fascism

As you fly a Mongolian flag, perhaps your English dictionary has a different definition of fascist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism,


In general it is conservatives you will find who are in charge of the capital in the USA.
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Message 1197147 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 1:52:03 UTC - in response to Message 1197131.  
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Then how in the same society 3 million people own 50 trillion dollar or 80% of total social wealth and at same time 1.5 million kids homeless hungry some eating rats as their dinner plus 50 million poor people kind of integrate into some form of society?! The real [democracy] or [freedom] things cannot be belong to this formation so this is newer form of fascist society.

3 million millioner satans + 1.5 million homeless children + 50 million abused poor = Fascism

As you fly a Mongolian flag, perhaps your English dictionary has a different definition of fascist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Fascism opposes multiple ideologies: conservatism,


In general it is conservatives you will find who are in charge of the capital in the USA.



Only in fascist society the system produces single person into billionare withing short period and at same time millions of middle class families make beg food from others so called food stamp you call.

What Apple corporation collecting 76 billion dollars in California during last few years exactly at same time homeless children centers mushrooming in exact same location is very disgusting system feature to any common sense.

The system mechanism is wrong so your most middle class is horribly abused by it.
(And again the brainwashing keywords are "democracy" and "freedom" for this case.)
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Message 1197157 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 2:38:25 UTC

This is what more and more Americans want and are voting for


That Vid is Funny. So, Maxine, Nancy, Diane, Barbara, Harry, et al are going to Socialize, uh, ah...take over The Oil Companies Eh?

I can't wait until Oblahblahblah and his Take Over Experts run Everything. Those Liberals!

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Message 1197168 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 3:37:36 UTC
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USA is basically made of of 200 different nationals of this planet so I understand that at least 200 different nationals can openly criticize and debate about america. Plus all those economic and other social sectors impacts to other countries make it even more necessary. I hope at least few of members from there posting here are college educated ppl, just guess.
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Message 1197191 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 4:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 1197147.  

Only in fascist society the system produces single person into billionare withing short period and at same time millions of middle class families make beg food from others so called food stamp you call.

[b]What Apple corporation collecting 76 billion dollars in California during last few years exactly at same time homeless children centers mushrooming in exact same location is very disgusting system feature to any common sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
The common aim of all fascist movements is elimination of ... the existence of large-scale capitalism.


It isn't fascism that you oppose because fascism wouldn't allow a big corporation so no person could become a billionaire in a short period of time.

Perhaps what you oppose is "the fiduciary duty to the shareholder" or capitalism or liberty.

By "homeless children centers" do you mean an orphanage? If so you will have a hard time finding any in California. Manta lists 35, and a quick read says almost all are charity fronts for orphan programs in other countries. I do know of one resident program in California Odd-Fellow Rebekah Children's Home of California. The government of California has ZERO. It is hard to call ZERO mushrooming.
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Message 1197212 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 7:03:04 UTC
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Here the CIA analysis reports that the social system functioning of america is going on in very terrible manner: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html

Even some afrikan countries have healthier system.
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Message 1197214 - Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 7:43:04 UTC - in response to Message 1197147.  
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What Apple corporation collecting 76 billion dollars in California during last few years exactly at same time homeless children centers mushrooming in exact same location is very disgusting system feature to any common sense.

Apple doesn't 'collect' billions of dollars. People choose to 'give' Apple those billions in freely buying their products.

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