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Never mind the Falklands, more worrying to the Brits is the insistence of Scotland wanting to withdraw from the Union, and become an independent Country. If it happens we would still be called the UK, as it stands for the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland. But Great Britain which currently includes England, Wales and Scotland, simply wouldn't be so great as before. | |
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Gee you'd think that after more than a thousand years of war and conquest the Scots would finally get used to their overlords. NOT!!! | |
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Gosh, with enough global climate change, Scotland could achieve as an independent nation the well being and status of Ireland..... | |
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Gosh, with enough global climate change, Scotland could achieve as an independent nation the well being and status of Ireland..... Absolutely........& totally stuffed due to the Euro! ____________ | |
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Absolutely........& totally stuffed due to the Euro! And no doubt expecting to be bailed out by the EU if they go bust ..... | |
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Gee you'd think that after more than a thousand years of war and conquest the Scots would finally get used to their overlords. NOT!!! Freedom from what? The Scots have had their own laws since the formation of the Union with England. Too, they have had more representation in the British parliament than either England, Wales or Northern Ireland. If Scotland leaves the union then like the UK it will become a member state of Europe and in time will have to give up this right to make it's own laws. It will, in time, then have a true overlord, the ECM and the Lords of Brussels. There is no logic in Scotland leaving the union, only their politicians seem to see logic in it. The last poll on this issue went against the Politicians for the population in Scotland generally sees no logic in it at all. So it's down to the logic as seen by the Politicians. No, they don't see logic they only sense power here. But to temporarily lord it over 8 million Scots these politicians are prepared to give up lording it over 64 million Britains as many of them have done as UK Prime Ministers over many centuries. Gosh! our current and previous prime Ministers are both Scottish in decent, what more does Scotland want!! The problem here is that leaving the Union is being promoted by tuppenny-bit politicians who don't have the ability to make things happen for themselves in the UK parliament so try to make things happen for themselves in the second rate tier of politics, namely the Scottish Assembly. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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I like Scotland, and I like the Scottish people. I've been to Edinburgh and loved it, and I'm going to Glasgow this spring, and looking forward to it. Unfortunately they have a bunch of crap politicians who pander to the extremists. | |
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That day they debated the Daylight Savings Bill and it sadly got filibustered. Who was the the prime culprit? That well known Scottish windbag Angus MacNeil. Proof I say that these Scottish politicians don't actually wont independence for Scotland but just wish to threaten us all with to see what extra money they can wangle out of this union. They could easily here have voted for the rest of the UK to have this Daylight saving bill but opted out themselves. Why did they not do this, because as second rate politicians the're both dumb and also stupid too and when faced with a golden opportunity to show common sense over an issue they blow it. The Scots represent about 15% of the UK population but feel they should be the deciding factor on most things regarding the UK as a whole. They loose this influence if they leave the union so you can bet your last dollar on the politicians there never going the whole hog and taking independence. They can't anyway for they would see 1 million Scots cross the boarder to live in the UK they would suffer a brain-drain. All know that Scotland can not survive without the generous subsidese they receive from the UK purse. They will not get this from Brussels if they leave the UK union. Also they don't own all the North Sea oil, only two tenths of it, for the other eight tenths falls into English waters. Time we called Scotlands bluff on this independence issue and I suspect also the Scottish population too would like to call this bluff on their politicians. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. | |
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To be fair, the Scottish view was if that bill went through, it would mean that up in the North, it wouldn't get light until 10am in the morning, which they said was unacceptable. A not unreasonable point. It caused a bit of a fuss because the change was widely supported on both sides of the House, and was also receiving Government support and backing. The Scottish National has welcomed the findings of the Panelbase poll for the Sunday Times and Real Radio Scotland – which puts support for independence at 47 per cent, compared to 53 per cent opposition – and finds that support for the SNP is at a high of 50 per cent. An Ipsos MORI poll last week put SNP support at 49 per cent. | |
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Here's a point to ponder.... | |
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I don't know if Scotland will gain full independence, I think the odds are against it but who knows. It is being suggested that If Scotland does split then England and Wales would have to re-apply for admission to the EU on a revised basis. But I doubt there would be s special referendum upon that, the government would simply regard it as restoring the Status Quo. | |
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Would be a bit of a laugh if Scotland did vote to leave the union then finally | |
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There are a number of ways of running countries. You can have a Dictatorship, which is fine if you happen to be in with the Dictators in-crowd, not so good if not. You can have a Military Junta, where if you disagree you get shot, and it only lasts until the next coup anyway. Or you can have single party Communist run countries which aren't much fun to live in either, or you can have a country run by revered religious leaders. | |
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Heck, then England could petition to be part of the US -- more than one way to eliminate the evil of the monarchy and National Health in one play. <g>
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If we didn't have that system be would be back in the Middle Ages with feudal Barons, Lords of the Manor, and serfs.Kinda funny when you consider the 2 houses of british parliament are the house of Lords and the house of commons. Not as bad as the dark ages but still that glimmer of the good old days ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school | |
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@BarryAZ - more than one way to eliminate the evil of the monarchy and National Health in one play. Sorry I can't accept that. There is nothing evil about the Queen or the Monarchy. And I would rather have the NHS than Medicare or Medicaid, thank you very much. @Skildude - Not as bad as the dark ages but still that glimmer of the good old days C'mon get real! Lords in the 21C are positions of honour, not positions of feudal anarchy. But you know that very well, so you are just being mischievous :-) | |
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You did notice the trailing <g> --- figured the comment might wind someone up though <smile> @BarryAZ ____________ | |
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You did notice the trailing <g> --- figured the comment might wind someone up though <smile> Yes of course I did, but you are being a bit naughty on the 60th Anniversary so I wasn't going to let you get away with it. And I am sure you wouldn't have expected me to either :-) | |
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Oooh - I just love it when a Brit includes a sentence with naughty bits <g>
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My ancestors were of Scotch/Irish lines but I am still at a loss to comprehend in this day and age the urge to break away from Great Britain. Afterall the four entities that make up Great Britain are stronger together than they ever could be separately. Just think what a mess the USA would be if it were 50 independent countries. | |
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