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Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
Matt, I would really appreciate it if you could confine your comments to somewhere around the title of this thread. Anywhere in South America would be more appropriate than Israel. I can't ask more nicely than that now can I? No problem with that at all. That is where I started in fact talking about Britain trying to draw the US into its Argentine wars. But I do keep getting distracted by people who want to go some place else with my posts. I agree I do not play well with others. Known that since kindergarten. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
As I think we were saying the only "american" race would be Amerind or Amerindian depending upon one's taste in grammar. Myself I think it all quite simple. Hold a referendum on the Falklands as to which country they wish to belong to including independence as a third option. Also hold the same referendum in Scotland and north Ireland and a few other places like Bermuda. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Hold a referendum on the Falklands as to which country they wish to belong to including independence as a third option. Continuing on the Argintina/British issue of the Falklands ... The inhabitants of the Falklands (the current indigenous people) have had many referenda and have always expressed the wish to remain a British protectorate. Regarding the claim Argintina has this is far younger than the British involvements with these islands, and their claims are based on from before Argintina existed and they belonge to Spain. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
So the Argentine should first hold a referendum on returning to Spanish control.
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Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
So the Argentine should first hold a referendum on returning to Spanish control. I said that if there is to be a war over who rules the islands the islanders should have the only opinion that matters. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
So the Argentine should first hold a referendum on returning to Spanish control. You're 30 years too late! There was a war & the Brits won. The islanders have stated that they wish to remain British. That should be good enough or are you going to dispute that fact? |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
my understanding was that after last war the consensus among the locals was along the lines of "Huh? uh yeah whatever dude". Janice |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
Hiyah Soft, word of mouth. it was definately pre-internet. Janice |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
OK thanks. Both links show that Argentina claims to respect the rights of the local population to determine who they want to ally themselves with, in line with other countries, but in the case of the Falklands "as it is ours". "My principle is the same as yours, but for the case of the Falklands it is different as it affects us". It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
So the Argentine should first hold a referendum on returning to Spanish control. 30 years ago it was invalidated by war. As to "stating" I know of no way to do that other than a secret ballot referendum. A few years after WWII all civilized nations abjured the right of rule by conquest without regard to who could be successfully blamed for starting it. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
Hiyah Soft, Without provenance it is rumor at best and propaganda at worst. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Just watched a documentary called Falklands Combat Medics which was a cool history. But little bit wondering that had british medics really saved hundreds of wounded argentinian soldiers lives in their fields hospital?! Because usually war covering documentaries are one sided. Yes, quite true. Our medics, military & civil don't care what one's nationality is - wounded? Then get you medical aid. |
Orgil Send message Joined: 3 Aug 05 Posts: 979 Credit: 103,527 RAC: 0 |
The main advantage of international forum is not being single sided so other hidden truths to be revealed and learnt by international members. So better try to keep the rare advantage!! Mandtugai! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
So they are not satified upsetting the UK, now they start on Spanish company. Argentina poised to seize Repsol assets |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
So they are not satified upsetting the UK, now they start on Spanish company. Good old Spanish doing a bit of serious sabre rattling telling the Argies to naff-off or get a clip around the ear. I think this ploy of yours, Argentina, may well back fire on you.. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Hmm, you'd think it would be the other way round. On the logic the Argentinian government is using regarding the Falklands, Argentina would be a Spanish colony. So they are not satified upsetting the UK, now they start on Spanish company. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
YPF Repsol: Spain warns Argentina of strong response Promising a "clear and overwhelming" response, the government summoned the Argentine ambassador to Madrid to express its concern. In diplomatic language that is serious, although the post meeting statements might not sound like it. Earlier, Spanish Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo said the "climate of friendship" between the two countries had been broken. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
At first glance it seems that the Argentine forces would put a hurting on Spain. Being as the supply route is almost as long as Englands was to the Falkands. But I googled both countries naval forces and Spain cleary has the lead in ships. All though the aircraft carries have Harriers. I also googled Argentine air forces. I was suprised that they have hardly anything. Old migrage aircraft, and some rebuilt American skyhawk ground attack planes. And not many of either. Hopefully the sabre rattling will stop and they can work something out. [/quote] Old James |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I see Argentina's credit rating has gone -ve due to the Repsol grab. Also Repsol will take legal action against anyone investing in YPF the Argentinian oil company that is to develope the shale oil fileds that Repsol discovered. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9222393/Standard-and-Poors-puts-Argentina-on-negative-watch-over-YPF-nationalisation-plan.html |
bill Send message Joined: 27 Apr 12 Posts: 171 Credit: 2,167,701 RAC: 0 |
The only Winners are the people who supply the weapons the people of the world die for no good reason, most hate killing other human's but are forced into it by corrupt one. |
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