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Message 1185350 - Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 23:37:54 UTC

Having the money to bid on this

with its $720,000.00 reserve price
and knowing it will sell a lot above the reserve ... and have cash left over to pick up a few more from the show.
http://theautry.org/masters-of-the-american-west-2012/silent-bid

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Message 1185352 - Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 23:42:20 UTC

It Should be in a Museum.
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Message 1185375 - Posted: 15 Jan 2012, 1:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 1185352.

It Should be in a Museum.

It will be for a while.
The artist is alive and selling it ...
The auctioneer ... http://theautry.org/
WHAT IS THE AUTRY?
The Autry National Center, formed in 2003 by the merger of the Autry Museum of Western Heritage with the Southwest Museum of the American Indian and the Women of the West Museum, is an intercultural history center dedicated to exploring and sharing the stories, experiences, and perceptions of the diverse peoples of the American West.


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Message 1185394 - Posted: 15 Jan 2012, 3:08:59 UTC

I feel richer just being able to see an image of it on my computer.
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Message 1185977 - Posted: 17 Jan 2012, 19:57:03 UTC - in response to Message 1185350.

Having the money to bid on this

with its $720,000.00 reserve price
and knowing it will sell a lot above the reserve ... and have cash left over to pick up a few more from the show.
http://theautry.org/masters-of-the-american-west-2012/silent-bid


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Message 1186021 - Posted: 17 Jan 2012, 21:48:03 UTC - in response to Message 1185977.
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Is this on topic?


ROFL

Good one, Sarge!
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Message 1186069 - Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 2:28:21 UTC - in response to Message 1186021.


Is this on topic?


ROFL

Good one, Sarge!


I believe multiple meanings were intended.

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Message 1186425 - Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 7:03:40 UTC - in response to Message 1186069.


Is this on topic?


ROFL

Good one, Sarge!


I believe multiple meanings were intended.


I know. I can see at least 4 different ways of interpreting that quoted double picture...

But the one that jumped out at me first... 'Jesus' would be pronounced 'Hay-soos', as the family at the dinner table thanks the farmer for the wonderful produce that he grew, harvested, and sold to them... Sorry, I tend to think along these lines. My older son (he will be 4 in a few months) finds the computer game 'Farming Simulator 2011' to be quite enjoyable, and just loves to drive his tractor around doing farming things in the game. He can already name most types of equipment, and can name many different brands of tractor (J.D., Ford, New Holland, Case IH, Caterpillar, Deutz Fhar (spelling), Fendt, at least) by just their paint jobs and the corporate logo on them.

Between this and my agricultural upbringing... you might say I have farming on the brain... And I usually think when I see the name 'Jesus' in print outside of books such as the 'Bible' of the Hispanic name (it is in common usage in many Hispanic cultures), and the farmer in that picture does look like he might be Hispanic... Not to mention the Spanish phrase 'de nada'... 'it is nothing.' (a polite response in the Hispanic culture with which I am familiar to being told thank you over something...)

After I posted my response to you, other possible shades of meaning started occuring to me, but the one I outlined above was the first one.


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Message 1186426 - Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 7:08:25 UTC

Ok, now is the time to cut all the crap. The American political system seems to be set up to protect the contenders more than to get useful information out to the voters.
Now is the time for the big question!
How many of the contenders running in this year’s republican primary have “Gold commodes” in their
homes, and do they have them in their privet airplanes and buses?
I can’t begin to describe what sort of good that could be done if these commodes where turned in for regular ones and the difference in cost be put in to food banks.

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Message 1186428 - Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 7:47:23 UTC - in response to Message 1186426.

Ok, now is the time to cut all the crap. The American political system seems to be set up to protect the contenders more than to get useful information out to the voters.


You are correct in this one.


Now is the time for the big question!
How many of the contenders running in this year’s republican primary have “Gold commodes” in their
homes, and do they have them in their privet airplanes and buses?
I can’t begin to describe what sort of good that could be done if these commodes where turned in for regular ones and the difference in cost be put in to food banks.



I have no idea about the composition / condition / location of the various candidates' sanitary facilities....

But, if you question their net worths... Most of the Republican candidates have a net worth around $1 million to $5 million... Romney has a net worth of around $200 million to $250 million. By contrast, the current president, Obama, has a net worth of around $10.5 million, and the previous one (Dubya) has a net worth of around $26 million or so. As far as charitable giving goes, I am sure that most, if not all, of the people I have mentioned do give some amount to charity... Romney has, over the years, given millions to charity, though much of that was the expected 10% tithing to the church he is a member of.

Politicians of both parties tend to be rich (and not just the president). The average net worth of members of the House of Representatives is right around $6 million. You gotta have a lot of money to be able to get elected to national office.
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Message 1186436 - Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 8:41:38 UTC

I can’t begin to describe what sort of good that could be done if these commodes where turned in for regular ones and the difference in cost be put in to food banks.


Why stop there Mr. Tooth? Let's Empty Fort Knox of its Trillion Dollars of Gold and Distribute It To The Hungry Ones.

Also, People who do not need to get their Weekly Vittils from a food bank should Cash In all Their Gold and use This Money for Charitable Contributions to The Needy and Hungry Ones.

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Message 1186509 - Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 16:48:55 UTC - in response to Message 1186436.

I think you got my point. I don’t believe we all would have to live in tents to insure that every citizen had shelter.
It is just that most people around here would rather do something helpful instead of watching homeless folks freeze to death all in the name of an ideology.
I find it hard to believe in the statements of people who find their diversions to be more important to them than the real life concerns of fellow citizens.
After all these years of living, and traveling around the world I still believe it is better to set up a society that allows for an equitable distribution of the wealth of a country than having to constantly take time out to fix the results of an unfair system. I also believe the tools are already in place to do this in both Canada and the United States.
In the words of a person very dear to me, “How could anyone sleep soundly knowing their neighbours were awake, in pain, and hungry in the house next door?”
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Message 1186593 - Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 21:12:44 UTC

Major, your initial impression was the one i had and, I believe, the one most intended. I say this because, one, I'm not as far from you geographically as I once was. So I am learning a little about culture in a new part of the country. Second, I got that link from a band I have some loose connections with. The singer is either from the US or Canada, but the rest of his bandmates are Mexican.

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Message 1186628 - Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 23:06:26 UTC - in response to Message 1186509.
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Socialism is what's unfair since the industrious have to carry the indolent on their backs. Ask the Russians about this.

If you had a homogeneous society that bred people with a proper work ethic then Socialism might work. Handouts otherwise promote a permanent: idle, lazy and criminal lower class.

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Message 1186666 - Posted: 20 Jan 2012, 1:34:52 UTC - in response to Message 1186628.

As Sarah Palin would ask, how is that post communist crony capitalism working out for the Russians now?


Socialism is what's unfair since the industrious have to carry the indolent on their backs. Ask the Russians about this.


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Message 1186671 - Posted: 20 Jan 2012, 1:55:57 UTC - in response to Message 1186666.

As Sarah Palin would ask, how is that post communist crony capitalism working out for the Russians now?


Socialism is what's unfair since the industrious have to carry the indolent on their backs. Ask the Russians about this.




Well, I know the Russians have been protesting Putin, so ... ?

Message 1186790 - Posted: 20 Jan 2012, 13:51:52 UTC

“How could anyone sleep soundly knowing their neighbours were awake, in pain, and hungry in the house next door?”


I spend $60 a month feeding feral cats.

If I were to instead give this to someone as described in above quote, they would take the $60 bucks and go buy a carton of cigs. Or as many packs as 60 bucks can buy.

The people I've encountered who are down on their luck, before anything else-food or shelter-will make sure they have their cigs.

Frak 'em.

Feed the kitties. Frak the humans.

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Message 1186811 - Posted: 20 Jan 2012, 15:54:23 UTC - in response to Message 1186790.

“How could anyone sleep soundly knowing their neighbours were awake, in pain, and hungry in the house next door?”


I spend $60 a month feeding feral cats.

If I were to instead give this to someone as described in above quote, they would take the $60 bucks and go buy a carton of cigs. Or as many packs as 60 bucks can buy.

The people I've encountered who are down on their luck, before anything else-food or shelter-will make sure they have their cigs.

Frak 'em.

Feed the kitties. Frak the humans.

SleepingSoundlyDullnando


Nope, i bought my food first.
And you obviously don't know how to shop for food for feral kitties. I'm feeding feral kitties, quite well, for far less. Didn't your Depression Era grandparents teach you anything?

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Message 1186873 - Posted: 20 Jan 2012, 21:06:48 UTC

I spend $60 a month feeding feral cats.

I may not agree with your politics or your outlook on life, but I will salute that statement.

Humans are able to ask for financial support if they choose, dumb animals cant if they wanted to.

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Message 1186885 - Posted: 20 Jan 2012, 21:44:22 UTC - in response to Message 1186873.
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I spend $60 a month feeding feral cats.

I may not agree with your politics or your outlook on life, but I will salute that statement.

Humans are able to ask for financial support if they choose, dumb animals cant if they wanted to.



Oh? Never seen a stray/feral cat beg? I've been known to open more than one can of tuna for them when they start meowing at me. While I don't make a continuous practice of feeding them, I have been known to do so from time to time. You gotta be careful feeding them, for they will tend to gather in huge colonies and cause problems if you overdo it. I know of at least one building on the campus of a local university that had to be closed and fumigated a few years ago due to a flea infestation from a feral cat colony (> 50 feral cats, and that was just the ones animal control caught) living under it. College kids were feeding, and the cats were breeding.

What I *did* do was I adopted cats (both from a shelter and directly catching the feral ones) and gave them a good loving home, all the food and attention they needed and wanted, and all the necessary medical care (including being fixed) from the vet. I spent almost 30 years doing so, 2 or 3 at a time, until my kids were born (I will start again when the kids are older and can handle it). Dealing with ferals can be... tricky... until they settle down.

I know I didn't help very *many* cats, but the ones I did help lived long, happy lives and due to the 'fixing' didn't add to the problem. I have also donated some money towards a couple of 'catch em and fix em' programs over the years.

What is the more compassionate way to deal with the feral cat problem? Feed them and let them remain wild and free? Or, catch a few and keep them as pets? Up to the individual, I suppose.

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