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Message 1346102 - Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 10:18:20 UTC - in response to Message 1346072.

We are of a different generation.

I think that is a fair comment. You do find that only the top state schools and private ones seem to fast track their best pupils these days. The norm is to concentrate on overall pass rates to maintain funding, to stay in business.

They do fast track in some schools, but in a way that is good for the school and not for the pupil.
If a pupil is capable of passing a subject with a "C" or higher grade early, they get that pupil to take the exam early, but usually with no extra teaching in that subject. This means that some sudents get a "B" or "C" early but if they waited would easily get an "A" which would mean a lot more.

Then they the get the student to take extra exams in the next year, that they normally wouldn't have had time to study, do homework for etc, so that school can say "we" got more exam passes than expected.

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Message 1346104 - Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 10:25:46 UTC
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I broadly agree WK. The main problem as I see it is that education in the UK is trying to be run as a business when it isn't! All Schools and Collages should be centrally funded to the extent that they need to be, to provide the best education possible for all people, young or old. This situation of having to fiddle the figures, to compete in a tender process to get further funding to basically survive, is part of the reason so many kids are falling out of school unemployable, not just unemployed.

I have already stated my opposition to OFSTED and the way that it works, and the sooner it is got rid of and replaced with something more fit for purpose the better off our kids will be.

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Message 1346124 - Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 12:02:16 UTC

if education worked the way it should, then each and every student would get the

most education possible for that student, which would be different for each that

should be the goal.
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Message 1346132 - Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 12:16:10 UTC

In a perfect world that of course should be the overall aim. But we have to be pragmatic and accept it how it is. However, we can, and should, do much better.

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Message 1362704 - Posted: 29 Apr 2013, 21:17:24 UTC

A bit late in the day, but if they start now, they might just be able to turn things around.....

Parents must teach the difference between right & wrong says watchdog
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Message 1362854 - Posted: 30 Apr 2013, 10:05:08 UTC

Oh my good golly gosh .....

Deep breaths (yeth and I'm only 16 ...)

I have to agree +1, 100%. I have been saying exactly this for over 10 years!!!

they might just be able to turn things around.....

We will see. Too many kids are born as a meal ticket to get social security payments, it's seen by many as better than working. Therefore the parents aren't interested in teaching their kids, they are just a means to an end. The kids grow up without any control, until the police inevitably have to get involved. They in turn do the same as their parents, it's a vicious circle. Make it more profitable to get a job than have kids to pay your way and it might work. Until then all we are doing is highlighting the problem and picking up the pieces.

Never to late to try to make a new start, we will see if this new Welfare system does that. Universal credit Although I hear what Sirius says about peed off druggies and alkies. Better to try something than nothing.

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Message 1366625 - Posted: 11 May 2013, 3:27:12 UTC

This one should probably called "teachers role in education".

'You gotta take this job seriously, this is the future of this nation': US high school student ranting about education caught on film

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Message 1366627 - Posted: 11 May 2013, 3:45:20 UTC - in response to Message 1362854.

Oh my good golly gosh .....

Deep breaths (yeth and I'm only 16 ...)

I have to agree +1, 100%. I have been saying exactly this for over 10 years!!!

they might just be able to turn things around.....

We will see. Too many kids are born as a meal ticket to get social security payments, it's seen by many as better than working. Therefore the parents aren't interested in teaching their kids, they are just a means to an end. The kids grow up without any control, until the police inevitably have to get involved. They in turn do the same as their parents, it's a vicious circle. Make it more profitable to get a job than have kids to pay your way and it might work. Until then all we are doing is highlighting the problem and picking up the pieces.

Never to late to try to make a new start, we will see if this new Welfare system does that. Universal credit Although I hear what Sirius says about peed off druggies and alkies. Better to try something than nothing.



Over here in oz we had a problem with this and it didn't help with the gov giving people a 7 grand bonus just for having a kid to push the birth rate back up so now single parents will have to find jobs once the child starts going to school and there are a whole range of other things they have brought in to stop single mothers just having a kid to get more money of social security and the same will apply for married couples getting social security and it seems to be working .
Common cents idea without penalising those that do the right thing or saying let's just get rid of the welfare system , hope they have done the same over in England
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Message 1366795 - Posted: 11 May 2013, 16:43:17 UTC - in response to Message 1366625.

This one should probably called "teachers role in education".

'You gotta take this job seriously, this is the future of this nation': US high school student ranting about education caught on film


& to add to the above: -

From innocent curiosity to Illegal activities
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