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Message 1279579 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 9:23:06 UTC - in response to Message 1279377.  
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Children of unmarried mothers of any race are more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock.


There's the problem. Let's not blame the teachers or the lack of funding for schools. We don't have the will to fix this or even to talk about it. The solution would be too draconian for almost any society.

Two or three bad apples will ruin the Learning Environment for the entire class. Today we find 10 or more bad apples in a high school class room in the poorer districts of every major city.

What do you all propose that we do ??
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Message 1279584 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 10:00:44 UTC

Children of unmarried mothers of any race are more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock.

That is also my opinion as well, but I think we need facts and figures to back that up.

What do you all propose that we do ??

There has to be a twin pronged assault upon the currently lax standards of society in general. The various governments need to engender a return to previous standards of morality and behaviour, and people themselves need to question why they behave as they do, If there is a common will to change for the better it can happen. But I fear that all the while we have a worldwide recession it will stay on the back burner.


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Message 1280071 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 23:25:37 UTC - in response to Message 1279579.  

[quote]Children of unmarried mothers of any race are more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock.

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The unattributed quote appears to be from this (thanks search engine). The sentence that precedes it is:

Statistics show just what that fullness means.


No details regarding the source of the statistics are provided.

It's unclear to me why a piece of paper signed by two adults can make a difference regarding the outcomes of their offspring. Belief in the magical powers of a marriage certificate do not seem to me to be an answer to the deprivations associated with single parenthood.

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1280186 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 8:14:11 UTC - in response to Message 1280071.  

[quote]Children of unmarried mothers of any race are more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock.

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The unattributed quote appears to be from this (thanks search engine). The sentence that precedes it is:

Statistics show just what that fullness means.


No details regarding the source of the statistics are provided.

It's unclear to me why a piece of paper signed by two adults can make a difference regarding the outcomes of their offspring. Belief in the magical powers of a marriage certificate do not seem to me to be an answer to the deprivations associated with single parenthood.


I think the subject should actually be "single parent". You are quite right about marriage. I don't think for one instance that what is meant here. It is single parent families where the father of the child has little or no contact.

At least that's what I took it to be.
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Message 1280192 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 8:38:53 UTC

Bernie is correct. There are statistics to show that people that are married are more likely to stay in the relationship than those that are just living together. There are further statistics that say that children generally fare better in a stable two parent family unit. But let's not get into the discussion of single parent families, we have done that in detail in past threads.

in this context, children in a stable happy marriage are more likely to receive parental help and encouragement and consequently do better in school.
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Message 1289816 - Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 19:39:17 UTC

Boy oh boy...can someone tell me the date please? Think I've been in a coma for 6 months.......

Parents must pay £26 for a CRB check before being allowed to watch their children on sports days

Do they have to pay a "collection charge" to be able to take them home at the end of the school day?
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Message 1289819 - Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 19:47:24 UTC
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That is of course totally OTT and no wonder the media have homed in on it. However, how many people in the UK could take a CRB check and come out squeaky clean? You might be shocked at the answer, but that is another matter. Judging by the behaviour of some kids these days, schools would gladly pay the parents to take them away!
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Message 1289827 - Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 20:02:47 UTC

Even more scary than that are the cases where someone has a satisfactory CRB check ends up in court on charges of child abuse over a number of years, including before their most recent CRB checks...
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Message 1290721 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 13:13:19 UTC

Physics teaching

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Message 1293176 - Posted: 9 Oct 2012, 12:21:02 UTC

Someone should commit him to am institution somewhere, he is clearly insane. Unless of course this is a wind up.

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Message 1293202 - Posted: 9 Oct 2012, 14:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 1293176.  

He's a politician, that says it all.
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Message 1293203 - Posted: 9 Oct 2012, 14:18:22 UTC

Now now Sirius ... behave.

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Message 1293205 - Posted: 9 Oct 2012, 14:19:20 UTC - in response to Message 1293172.  

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Message 1293206 - Posted: 9 Oct 2012, 14:20:08 UTC - in response to Message 1293203.  

Now now Sirius ... behave.



Me behave? Aw, c'mon, since when have I advocated killing kids. My name is not Ian Brady or Mark Bridger!
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Message 1293514 - Posted: 10 Oct 2012, 16:58:54 UTC - in response to Message 1290721.  

Physics teaching

I'm sure my friend ES99 may have a comment here?


Doesn't surprise me in the least. There is still a stereotype that physics is a boys subject and I do my best to work against that, but I'd have to teach them before they get to 6th form to convince them them that physics is for gurls.

My BFs niece came over for thanksgiving dinner this weekend, she's an engineer so I asked her to talk to my oldest son about the different types of engineering he might chose to study at university. His girlfriend was with us and she piped up with the question "what sort of things are there that girls can study at university?" me and the niece both chimed in unison "Engineering!". I was rather surprised and saddened at the question and the assumption that there are still "girls" subjects and "boys" subjects.
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Message 1293517 - Posted: 10 Oct 2012, 17:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 1293514.  

& don't forget the ridicule that the kids provide all on their own. Because I undertook technical studies, there were several class periods vacant every week.

I wanted to take up cooking & needlework...BOY was that a mistake. Got ridiculed by the kids & teachers!
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Message 1293518 - Posted: 10 Oct 2012, 17:02:48 UTC - in response to Message 1293172.  
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A "new" role for parents? http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/08/974321/republican-candidate-in-arkansas-says-parents-should-seek-death-penalty-for-rebellious-children/?mobile=nc

My eldest would probably have been put to death years ago then. However, as he comes towards the end of his teenage years I have a fluttering of hope for him and am quite relieved I didn't have him killed.
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Message 1299739 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 12:30:27 UTC

For those who want to see if maths standards have fallen since the sixties, do the test yourself and get youngsters in your family tackle these simple maths problems.

Formula 1 Team, Williams struggling to find recruits with maths skills

Alex Burns, the chief executive of the Formula 1 company, which is racing in the Indian Grand Prix, said he was alarmed and surprised that most 16 to 18 year-olds keen to work for the company could not do basic maths sums and had failed to reach a 50pc score on a range of practical tests.


Of the 250 applications for its apprenticeship scheme this year, 45 were invited to an open day and 16 made it through to the tests round. Just six young people passed, with 10 failing to get more than half the answers right – a failure rate of two-thirds.


I did most in my head, and used pencil and paper for Q3, 4 and 14. I got them all right, in a few minutes. Got my son (MSc) to do them, without calculator, and he got the logs questions wrong. He also used pen and paper for most questions.
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Message 1299748 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 12:54:43 UTC

and am quite relieved I didn't have him killed.

Close run thing at times :-))

For those who want to see if maths standards have fallen since the sixties, do the test yourself and get youngsters in your family tackle these simple maths problems.

Got the lot right, mostly in my head, except the log ones. I shouldn't have needed a logbook, you should be able to work it out, but it was over 50 years ago!

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