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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
[quote]Children of unmarried mothers of any race are more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock. /quote] The unattributed quote appears to be from this (thanks search engine). The sentence that precedes it is: Statistics show just what that fullness means. No details regarding the source of the statistics are provided. It's unclear to me why a piece of paper signed by two adults can make a difference regarding the outcomes of their offspring. Belief in the magical powers of a marriage certificate do not seem to me to be an answer to the deprivations associated with single parenthood. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
[quote]Children of unmarried mothers of any race are more likely to perform poorly in school, go to prison, use drugs, be poor as adults, and have their own children out of wedlock. I think the subject should actually be "single parent". You are quite right about marriage. I don't think for one instance that what is meant here. It is single parent families where the father of the child has little or no contact. At least that's what I took it to be. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Boy oh boy...can someone tell me the date please? Think I've been in a coma for 6 months....... Parents must pay £26 for a CRB check before being allowed to watch their children on sports days Do they have to pay a "collection charge" to be able to take them home at the end of the school day? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22160 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Even more scary than that are the cases where someone has a satisfactory CRB check ends up in court on charges of child abuse over a number of years, including before their most recent CRB checks... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
A "new" role for parents? http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/08/974321/republican-candidate-in-arkansas-says-parents-should-seek-death-penalty-for-rebellious-children/?mobile=nc I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
He's a politician, that says it all. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Now now Sirius ... behave. Me behave? Aw, c'mon, since when have I advocated killing kids. My name is not Ian Brady or Mark Bridger! |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Physics teaching Doesn't surprise me in the least. There is still a stereotype that physics is a boys subject and I do my best to work against that, but I'd have to teach them before they get to 6th form to convince them them that physics is for gurls. My BFs niece came over for thanksgiving dinner this weekend, she's an engineer so I asked her to talk to my oldest son about the different types of engineering he might chose to study at university. His girlfriend was with us and she piped up with the question "what sort of things are there that girls can study at university?" me and the niece both chimed in unison "Engineering!". I was rather surprised and saddened at the question and the assumption that there are still "girls" subjects and "boys" subjects. Reality Internet Personality |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
& don't forget the ridicule that the kids provide all on their own. Because I undertook technical studies, there were several class periods vacant every week. I wanted to take up cooking & needlework...BOY was that a mistake. Got ridiculed by the kids & teachers! |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
A "new" role for parents? http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/08/974321/republican-candidate-in-arkansas-says-parents-should-seek-death-penalty-for-rebellious-children/?mobile=nc My eldest would probably have been put to death years ago then. However, as he comes towards the end of his teenage years I have a fluttering of hope for him and am quite relieved I didn't have him killed. Reality Internet Personality |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
For those who want to see if maths standards have fallen since the sixties, do the test yourself and get youngsters in your family tackle these simple maths problems. Formula 1 Team, Williams struggling to find recruits with maths skills Alex Burns, the chief executive of the Formula 1 company, which is racing in the Indian Grand Prix, said he was alarmed and surprised that most 16 to 18 year-olds keen to work for the company could not do basic maths sums and had failed to reach a 50pc score on a range of practical tests. Of the 250 applications for its apprenticeship scheme this year, 45 were invited to an open day and 16 made it through to the tests round. Just six young people passed, with 10 failing to get more than half the answers right – a failure rate of two-thirds. I did most in my head, and used pencil and paper for Q3, 4 and 14. I got them all right, in a few minutes. Got my son (MSc) to do them, without calculator, and he got the logs questions wrong. He also used pen and paper for most questions. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Same for me, and the log one I plotted ... It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Same for me, and the log one I plotted ... log(1) = 0, in any usable base. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
For those who want to see if maths standards have fallen since the sixties, do the test yourself and get youngsters in your family tackle these simple maths problems. All those things are on the GCSE syllabus apart from Logs. Long division is done in primary (elementary) school and they have probably forgotten how to do it by the time they graduate. They use calculators now for practically everything. In fact looking back over 20 years to my GCSEs I am pretty sure we did not do Logs until 'A' Level. So if the standards have dropped, they dropped a long, long time ago and it has taken them a long time to notice. Reality Internet Personality |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
For those who want to see if maths standards have fallen since the sixties, do the test yourself and get youngsters in your family tackle these simple maths problems. It's around 30 years since I did my GCE "O" levels, logs were part of the syllabus then, though that was likely the last time I looked at a log table, and that might be why I got 14 wrong (if I'd thought about it longer I think I would've figured it out, I gave myself a total of 2 minutes to complete all 15). I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
All those things are on the GCSE syllabus apart from Logs. Long division is done in primary (elementary) school and they have probably forgotten how to do it by the time they graduate. They use calculators now for practically everything. The fact they use calculators for everything, should not excuse schools from ensuring the mathematical principles, or the ability to do it the easy way. In your head. And why, if you are right, were logs moved to "A" level. The non-academic kids that go into an engineering apprenticeship will need to know logs, in some cases on a daily basis. And what is the point of broadcasters talking about sound levels and strengths of earthquakes if 90% of the audience have no understanding of the units being used. edit] This is not a personal attack on you Ess, you just happen to be the local teaching rep. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Log tables were part of my O Level maths, but the A Levels introduced Regression Analysis and tables. I think I still have my tables some where in the house. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I still have mine from 1961. Now that looks familiar....same one we used in '66. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I still have mine from 1961. Again, my point that log(1) = 0 in any base. log[3](243/27) = log[3](3^5/3^3) = log[3](3^2) = 2 * log[3](3) = 2 * 1 = 2. Beyond that kind of manipulation, the rest will not be easy because many things cannot be (readily)written as a power of the base in question (paticularly when the power ... the exponent ... is not an integer). You had tables (as did I for just a *couple* of years) and now I have a calculator, as do my students. The technology for the "tougher" log questions has changed, but a table is still a technology of sorts. That is not to say that some students (and some teachers) do not do the easy things on a calculator when I can do it faster, as fast or nearly as fast in my head or on paper/blackboard/whiteboard. BTW, I *seem* to recall small exposure to logs in 6th grade (age 11-12 years). If not, at least I can guarantee I did work with different bases, like how to write 234 (base ten) in base five, etc. ... . |
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