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Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
I fully agree. The best thing that could happen to it would be for some veterans to get together and turn it into static display in some port. We have turned a number of ships from several wars into display ships from destroyer and aircraft carriers to liberty ships. The additional advantage is a land based display will draw far tourist dollars than one under water. We even have your Queen Marry and have done much the same with it. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
modern in the sense that it can launch harrier jump jets. Its pretty small compared to other modern aircraft carriers. IIRC the brits are moving to a newer generation of fighter is in the works or is currently being employed which makes this carrier useless for the British Navy. It is sad to see such a nice ship going to waste but a Modern ACC is needed for the newer planes In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
I fully agree. The best thing that could happen to it would be for some veterans to get together and turn it into a WW II static display in some port. We have turned a number of ships from several wars into display ships from destroyer and aircraft carriers to liberty ships. The additional advantage is a land based display will draw far tourist dollars than one under water. We even have your Queen Marry and have done much the same with it. I edited before you posted. What I had in mind was something like this and this . |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I understand the displeasure with the proposed fate of the Ark Royal. The USS Forrestal CV59 was the first "super" carrier and generally the pattern for all of the US oil powered carriers to follow. My father was a member of the first crew to take her to sea and my older brother was a member of the airgroup that deployed with her in the 1980s. For several years they have been trying to find a port city that would give her a home as a museum. Baltimore came close but eventually backed out of the picture. Now it looks as if she will either be sunk as a reef or scrapped. The are so many ships that served their country with distinction and there just isn't room to save very many of them. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Unfortunately, the decimation of the Royal Navy's capability has been going on for many decades, starting with that sop for a Secretary for Defence John Nott, back in 1980. He nearly left us with no Falklands capability. As to the fate of the Ark Royal ... I agree with Chris. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
I agree with you on this. Regarding the Falklands, if significant oil is found off the Falklands (there is test drilling going on now), I fear the Falklands might well (notwithstanding the inclination of the long time residents of the islands) become the Malvinas as the British lack the capability to resist a combination of South American countries. Unfortunately, the decimation of the Royal Navy's capability has been going on for many decades, starting with that sop for a Secretary for Defence John Nott, back in 1980. He nearly left us with no Falklands capability. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Right, you must be thrilled that the Conservatives are in power -- that means no budget cuts for defense -- oh wait. There are reasons to not like Blair, after all, he was the PM and often enough, PM's get hated by one faction or another.
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Yep! Typical Labour Govenrment. Not long after the end of this series.... HMS Ark Royal & Sailing HMS Ark Royal was decommissioned & rather than let it be scrapped A local rich scrap dealer put in a bid for it so that he can turn it into a floating muesum.... GUESS WHAT? He was denied...... I just wonder why as he would have covered all the costs with no government intervention..... |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Fair enough indeed. After all, the decommissioning of the Ark Royal has occurred under another's watch. As a note, from one American's perspective, it seems that Europe does have some minor funding issues including defense (eg Ark Royal) -- I'd note the rest of Europe is somewhat more pronounced in its rejection of the military than the UK. Over the coming decade, I expect the US will reduce it's European military investment significantly -- that should thrill folks on the other side of the pond.
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hmmn...very interesting....it'll be even more interesting if they win the bid...... Ark Royal bid causing concern |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
There are reasons to not like Blair, after all, he was the PM and often enough, PM's get hated by one faction or another. Apologies for adding the the digression, but Chris let's get real. Something no previous PM has done? Right. And where is the place of a PM's wife? How did Cherie embarrass Tony? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
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