Finally! GPU wars 2012 - GTX 650 Ti reviews

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zoom314 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 45791 Credit: 36,415,856 RAC: 7,010	Message 1209102 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 0:14:09 UTC - in response to Message 1209076.
	Guru of 3D posted their review of the GTX680 today: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-review/ EVGA has it listed as: GeForce 600 Series Family There is also a new Precision tool from EVGA called EVGA Precision X that's geared specifically toward the 680 (ver 3.0.1), but is backward compatible thru the 200 series. This will be the new look of tool as there will no be further upgrades to the legacy version of the tool. Maybe this will work... Fixed the link, nothing like copy and paste. ____________
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Alex Storey Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 535 Credit: 1,629,279 RAC: 419	Message 1211873 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 11:13:56 UTC
	Second Wave of NVIDIA GeForce GTX 600 Products Due For May
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Alex Storey Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 535 Credit: 1,629,279 RAC: 419	Message 1218197 - Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 11:04:52 UTC Last modified: 14 Apr 2012, 11:17:07 UTC
	The King is dead. Long live the King. NVIDIA Stops Production of GeForce GTX 580 Edit: AMD Radeon HD 7900, HD 7700 Series Price Cuts En Route
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SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 4792 Credit: 79,749,258 RAC: 35,643	Message 1218201 - Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 11:11:05 UTC - in response to Message 1218197.
	The comments didn't speak too highly of the 480's. Heck, with some water cooling, and a huge overclock, they can hold their own.....:D Steve ____________ Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website
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clive G1FYE Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 4 Nov 04 Posts: 1300 Credit: 23,054,144 RAC: 0	Message 1218362 - Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 19:35:27 UTC
	I have been waiting for the 79xx price`s to fall after nvidia`s 6xx came out, As it says in the article they have taken their time about it, They have to cash in on it if sale`s are good.
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John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0	Message 1218375 - Posted: 14 Apr 2012, 19:58:27 UTC
	The AMD Radeon HD7990will be released to the wild on 17th April @ $849 Expensive ... I wonder if there are takers? ____________ It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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clive G1FYE Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 4 Nov 04 Posts: 1300 Credit: 23,054,144 RAC: 0	Message 1218550 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 2:29:13 UTC - in response to Message 1218375.
	The AMD Radeon HD7990will be released to the wild on 17th April @ $849 Expensive ... I wonder if there are takers? Not me, It will not fit in the case.
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5695 Credit: 56,392,304 RAC: 48,794	Message 1218565 - Posted: 15 Apr 2012, 2:57:26 UTC - in response to Message 1218550.
	The current high prices & lack of availability for the latest GPUs can be blamed on TSMC and their problems producing 28nm wafers. And because production & supply is so limited for the new GPUs, the older ones continue to remain (relatively) expensive. Don't expect things to improve until late this year. 3rd Quater at best. TSMC news, Same news, different source. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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Alex Storey Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 535 Credit: 1,629,279 RAC: 419	Message 1222316 - Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 20:22:26 UTC Last modified: 23 Apr 2012, 20:24:23 UTC
	AnandTech - The Intel Ivy Bridge (Core i7 3770K) Review 22 pages and I couldn't find a single AVX reference for you guys:( But I did find this on page 19: " ... Ivy Bridge is the first true compute capable GPU from Intel. This marks an interesting step in the evolution of Intel's GPUs, as originally projects such as Larrabee Prime were supposed to help Intel bring together CPU and GPU computing by creating an x86 based GPU. With Larrabee Prime canceled however, that task falls to the latest rendition of Intel's GPU architecture. With Ivy Bridge Intel will be supporting both DirectCompute 5—which is dictated by DX11—but also the more general compute focused OpenCL 1.1. Intel has backed OpenCL development for some time and currently offers an OpenCL 1.1 runtime for their CPUs, however an OpenCL runtime for Ivy Bridge will not be available at launch. As a result Ivy Bridge is limited to DirectCompute for the time being, which limits just what kind of compute performance testing we can do with Ivy Bridge." Intel Announces 3rd Generation Core "Ivy Bridge" Processor Family also NVIDIA to launch 7-Billion Transistor Kepler GPGPU "Tesla" Boards on May 14? NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 Pictured (tba April 28)
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doug Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 10 Jul 09 Posts: 199 Credit: 9,395,559 RAC: 1,318	Message 1223055 - Posted: 25 Apr 2012, 4:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 1222316.
	AnandTech - The Intel Ivy Bridge (Core i7 3770K) Review 22 pages and I couldn't find a single AVX reference for you guys:( But I did find this on page 19: " ... Ivy Bridge is the first true compute capable GPU from Intel. This marks an interesting step in the evolution of Intel's GPUs, as originally projects such as Larrabee Prime were supposed to help Intel bring together CPU and GPU computing by creating an x86 based GPU. With Larrabee Prime canceled however, that task falls to the latest rendition of Intel's GPU architecture. With Ivy Bridge Intel will be supporting both DirectCompute 5—which is dictated by DX11—but also the more general compute focused OpenCL 1.1. Intel has backed OpenCL development for some time and currently offers an OpenCL 1.1 runtime for their CPUs, however an OpenCL runtime for Ivy Bridge will not be available at launch. As a result Ivy Bridge is limited to DirectCompute for the time being, which limits just what kind of compute performance testing we can do with Ivy Bridge." Intel Announces 3rd Generation Core "Ivy Bridge" Processor Family also NVIDIA to launch 7-Billion Transistor Kepler GPGPU "Tesla" Boards on May 14? NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 Pictured (tba April 28) That's to bad. I would have thought they would have gone a bit further to support OpenCL. Larrabee was pulled, but it lives on in the Knight's whatever series. That's when things will get more interesting. That's head to head with NVidia in gpgpu computing. They better have their OpenCL act together by then. The GPU on IvyBridge, while interesting, doesn't compete with the massive independent coprocessor units of NVidia and ATI. That may change though. Getting the data to where it gets crunched is the real bottleneck.
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5695 Credit: 56,392,304 RAC: 48,794	Message 1223062 - Posted: 25 Apr 2012, 4:57:25 UTC - in response to Message 1223055. Last modified: 25 Apr 2012, 4:58:55 UTC
	Getting the data to where it gets crunched is the real bottleneck. PCIe 3 is now here. I wouldn't consider 984MB/s a bottleneck. If it is a x16 link gives almost 15.8GB/s. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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Alex Storey Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 535 Credit: 1,629,279 RAC: 419	Message 1224859 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 11:43:38 UTC Last modified: 29 Apr 2012, 11:44:30 UTC
	Sexy! http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/article-keynote/ http://www.anandtech.com/show/5795/nvidia-unveils-geforce-gtx-690-dual-gk104-flagship-launching-may-3rd
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 38322 Credit: 560,270,305 RAC: 652,920	Message 1224895 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 13:38:17 UTC
	Kitties want........ ____________ ********************************************* Embrace your inner kitty...ya know ya wanna! I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 774 Credit: 23,193,139 RAC: 0	Message 1224949 - Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 16:52:14 UTC
	It's 2 680s on the same board with some nice features, but bare in mind with it being 680s their DP performance is going to be the same as erm a 680.
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DoubleTop Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Jul 02 Posts: 28 Credit: 7,576,471 RAC: 235	Message 1226802 - Posted: 3 May 2012, 19:42:48 UTC Last modified: 3 May 2012, 19:43:12 UTC
	Release date today for the 690, price wise = dedicated cruncher for sure! Anyone care to guess at the numbers in terms of output? It kind of appeals to kick out one card that will beat (and some) my entire old diskless seti farm from back in the day :) https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards+-+NVIDIA/GeForce+GTX+690 3072 cuda cores is just insane, that's pretty much got to be getting close to the realms of the CPU not being able to feed it - or saturating one of the transports? I dunno, but I'm excited about the card despite the cash outlet I am seriously considering a dedicated 24/7 cruncher in the datacentre rack - just got to hope I have enough headroom in AMPs by turning off the current machines. DT. ____________
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5695 Credit: 56,392,304 RAC: 48,794	Message 1227034 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 5:25:35 UTC - in response to Message 1224949.
	It's 2 680s on the same board with some nice features, but bare in mind with it being 680s their DP performance is going to be the same as erm a 680. Seti doesn't require or make use of Double Precision, so it's not a factor. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5695 Credit: 56,392,304 RAC: 48,794	Message 1227036 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 5:31:33 UTC - in response to Message 1226802. Last modified: 4 May 2012, 5:32:23 UTC
	just got to hope I have enough headroom in AMPs by turning off the current machines. The new GPUs are very low power users compared to what went before. A GTX690 under full load draws less power than a single GTX580 card under the same load. A single GTX690 actually draws less power than 2 GTX680s- about 85W less. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 38322 Credit: 560,270,305 RAC: 652,920	Message 1227069 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 7:11:21 UTC - in response to Message 1227036.
	just got to hope I have enough headroom in AMPs by turning off the current machines. The new GPUs are very low power users compared to what went before. A GTX690 under full load draws less power than a single GTX580 card under the same load. A single GTX690 actually draws less power than 2 GTX680s- about 85W less. OK...when the kitties win the lottery, they pledge to replace all current GPUs with 690s. Thereby saving the planet. Don't I wish. ____________ ********************************************* Embrace your inner kitty...ya know ya wanna! I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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DoubleTop Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Jul 02 Posts: 28 Credit: 7,576,471 RAC: 235	Message 1227215 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 16:03:57 UTC - in response to Message 1227036.
	just got to hope I have enough headroom in AMPs by turning off the current machines. The new GPUs are very low power users compared to what went before. A GTX690 under full load draws less power than a single GTX580 card under the same load. A single GTX690 actually draws less power than 2 GTX680s- about 85W less. current machines in there are a little old now, might be time for an end of tax year refresh If I can pull more points, less leccy usage in the 1/4 rack all the better. Just me, or does there seem to be very little point in CPU crunching now? Not a single GPU is in the rack, all the GPU power is in offices under desks heating the rooms! ____________
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Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4203 Credit: 1,030,492 RAC: 268	Message 1227240 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 17:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 1227215.
	... Just me, or does there seem to be very little point in CPU crunching now? ... Unfortunately you still need a CPU, and might as well get more use out of it than simply feeding the GPU. And doing CPU crunching using mature technologies and compilers provides a very good level of quality control. My estimate is that more than 60% of the work is being done on CPU still, and they are far more reliable than GPUs overall. But certainly anyone building a system intended mainly for crunching ought to concentrate on the GPU capability. With the GPUUG efforts and probable future improved download it may even become sensible again to aim at the most crunching capability which can be achieved in a single system, for now two or three lesser systems are more likely to be able to maintain full productivity. Joe
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