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Message 1178838 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 13:40:04 UTC
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Apparently messed I messed the whole thing up once again.

Mark - why not try giving a hand at living up to your promises?

I have not seen much of that thing lately.

The point is, the more you are thinking about it yourself that you are making some kind of contribution to this or that project, the more you are supposed or assumed to be (possibly by some even more clever people than yourself) an idiot of sorts.

Therefore, there is no reason to believe what you are saying, regardless of this being LOL, new gaussian or completed, can't validate.

Compare this with a video that I am currently watching (by means of a pre-determined or casual playlist, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbt3tEc1pw), which is a better one.

Theoretical physicists are currently making definite and remarkable progress regarding the subject of particle phycics, including the search for the elusive Higgs boson particle. (Recalled the name of that elusive particle after 60 seconds).

The same physicians (who are not the same as phsychologists, by the way, going into persons minds and thoughts as well as dreams), are now able to dig back to the time of the creation of the Universe, including the subject of space and time (including Planck's constant and the possible existence of parallell Universes).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbt3tEc1pw

Too big a subject for my credit card to handle, perhaps?

Your shopping bag is empty. Your shopping bag is full.

Christmas is probably coming up in advance with a drink already in my stomach, eh? Who else are going to celebrate the upcoming Christmas?

Does it readily show up in my language? Where are the Seti@home power users right now?
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Message 1178841 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 13:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 1178838.  



Mark - why not try giving a hand a live up to your promises?

I have not seen much of that lately.



WTF are you possibly saying?
I am crunching the daylights out of any tasks sent my way, support the GPUUG fundraising efforts, and have sent some cash to the project.

Live up to my promises?????

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Message 1178844 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 14:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 1178841.  
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Live up to my promises?????

Having a big credit also means being trusted (which I think that you really are, Mark).

Friendliness and reliabilty really matters, how about going around finding something?

Am I supposed to ever find anything or something of interest from supposedly invalid numbers that I possibly may have or be able to get by means of running the Seti@home client?

Any instance(s) known about around here that numbers supposed to be of any particular interest for the relevant scientists in charge possibly could have been created or made up of de-bunkers of this or that project?

Again, these numbers are supposed to have been produced by nature alone. Apparently there is no replay or possible re-occurence available at the current moment and most likely we will not see an exact replay of history once more.

WTF. Aren't we looking for aliens and UFO's? Wassup, man?

Are these de-bunkers of one kind of a project supposed to possibly be returning even better numbers, or possibly something else, for that matter?

Please let me know (preferably by means of a Private Message) that I am a de-bunker of this project.

LOL - laughing out loud. ROFL - rolling on the floor, laughing (out loud).

How about comparing QNAN numbers against the rest of the so-called "invalids" (or rather gaussian scores)?

Could or should I possibly make it out anything better by doing it in this way?
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Message 1178864 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 15:30:44 UTC
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First of all, the project is not at all supposed to believe or in some way take advice from its participants or contributors, whether or not these persons are supposed to be reliable, trusted, experienced or perhaps something else.

I guess that we in in the end may reach the "final consensus" or "conclusion".

During this process, I may step on the toes of people who are thought to either be my friends, or are supposed of or regarded by me as being somewhat more friendly.

Is this just that simple? If I ever was making the assumption that possible numbers (good or bad) currently being available by means of the processing made by the Seti@home client are made from creatures or beings thought of or believed at (by us) as being "intelligent" in nature, rather than just being a part of the numbers thought of as existing naturally, I would be gratified by making such assumptions right here.

Anyway, my join date on this project was May 17, 2010. Does this in some way tell anything about "how experienced I am doing this project" or "how dedicated I am by means of running this project"?

If I am not wrong, there was a Seti@home client 3.05 before the renowned 3.08 client which I became used to.

Are Stealth-figures perhaps known as or thought to be doing it anything better than those regulars frequenting these Message Boards?

Before today, I would have had less sympathy against such figures, but perhaps I should now make a re-think about this fact.

A Core i7-990X probably runs off the road in the same way as a Core i7-960. I have seen the red bulb for the processor light up on my motherboard which made me become almost afraid, but I was able to get up once again and recover from that particular problem.

Posting in the Seti@home Cafe does not solve anything. It only creates another fool or foolish problem atop all the other ones which are currently existing.

Problem solving, interpretation of the current or previous facts, as well as experience and clarity in one particular's expression of the current things of subject / matter is what is counting, nothing else.
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Message 1178889 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 17:17:36 UTC - in response to Message 1178835.  

OCD - in charge of things, or maybe I should interpret that as "overclocked"?

Overclocking too soon means a possible burn-out of the hardware equipment. Is it really worth it when it comes to the hardware?

Again, rather trust those people who are actually making the food you are eating and not those hubba-bubba people who are supposed to give you some advice in the computer store (or food store for that matter) that you are visiting.

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder......
Manic depressive......
Mindless fool....LOL.

Call it what you will. But the Frozen 920 just got 30 some more tasks.

Could be worse I guess, You could be paranoid to boot. I let the PC here do the OCD, It's the expert there.
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Message 1178892 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 17:31:45 UTC
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A logical assumption: A gaussian score, previously mentioned here and not readlily thought of as being a result of possibly de-bunking, may be having its own logged element (either similar, or most likely a different number).

This as a result of the processing of tasks (which seem to be endless and not ending when it comes to certain tasks, I yesterday posted a remark on the PrimeGrid web-pages that I was running late there on those LLR-based tasks, which are meant to find possible prime numbers directly, unless a computational error, or something similar was hampering such a process).

Needless to say, I have fewer tasks not known to the servers on PrimeGrid than at Seti@home. With this processor I should not need to bother about this lagging-behind problem, but in fact, I do.

Having been here since April 13, 2003, my discussion about these matters now becomes quite to the point, I think. Don't forget neither my broad heart as well as my my personal dedication to the subject.

One of the mentioned gaussian scores previously produced by me (and for some reason not moderated yet as a reason of bad writing, including typographical errors, has a score of 867979251.072 .

As previously posted and now adding a little more:

New gaussian: power 4.44, fit 581082624.000, score 867979251.072 .

What line does this particular result / score end up on (by me as well as some total)? Did I ever loose track of this? Invalid results vs. "logged results".

Again, blame my lack of logging the subject, you only get a gaussian curve which by the software alone is meant to represent a "perfect gaussian curve" based on observational / recorded data.

Anyway, you did not receive this particular result line, did you?

Definitely I heard a voice or someone asking a question of sort regarding my second best score. Did I ever have to turn on my machine in order to hear about this asking or inquiring voice, I wonder?

If you happen to be so or that good on the subject, you already were able or capable at calculating the "rest" (meaning power and fit). At that time, this was only something I noticed as it happened or maybe even later, getting a score, but otherwise did not fill up the rest of the missing fields which were there all the time.

Just enough to conclude that this particular number could or should be used by a Type 2 or Type 3 civilization who for a long time has known very vell the business of conquering space and observing us Earthlings who all the time have been supposed to be naive and not so well knowing about the current and / or relevant facts.

Why am I being modded out because of possible invalid numbers when the numbers I have after 8 and a half years seem to indicate the opposite or contrary fact?

Yet, it ends up in the books as one of the numerous posting relatings to invalid numbers as well as de-bunking.

Later edit from an earlier posting: Am I supposed to be a theoretical physicist and a mathematician as well?

Don't ever take your time at reading what supposedly stupid people have to say about certain things. Possible de-bunkers should be known to be stupid people, you know. I hate not to be believed, but I worked quite a bit on some of this.

Maybe I should be able to get a new chance. I am filling up a web-server meant for posting relevant information which is supposed to be relating to a particular scientific project.

Can such people possibly explain certain things better than I am able to do it myself?
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Message 1178904 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 18:27:38 UTC - in response to Message 1178893.  
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I can hear you by means of what you are writing.

Do I need to translate your words in order for other people being able to read what you said?

I should believe, based on my conclusion (Sten-Arne's) that (even) in other countries, too many mental hospitalities have become shut down.

Should I possibly know anything more when it comes to such things like this?

Aren't we supposed to be insane from the first posting or appearance we make on the web? Or maybe we are deemed to be insane from the moment we are born and therefore being closely watched step by step the rest of our lives?

Of course, you are not the first one to be wishing me end up at such a place.

Does it help on the results being obtained by means of electronic calculation?

Time to make some kind of psychological examination process when it comes to Albert Einstein, perhaps? He neither was modded out or ridiculed, by the way - even the Catholic Church seemed not to bother any much.

If he ever was able to write online, did he ever made the typographical error based on his experience (I still do and I am experienced having the keyboard located on a separate, lower table).

E=mc2 (for this he received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1921, according to the YouTube video coming my way earlier on this evening).
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Message 1178905 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 18:34:36 UTC - in response to Message 1178893.  

Jag skulle tro, att man kan dra slutsatsen att även i andra länder har man stängt ner alldeles för många mentalsjukhus.

Jag måste tyvärr hålla med dig.
Det var väldigt mycket svammel i den här tråden.
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Message 1178909 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 18:43:44 UTC - in response to Message 1178905.  

Jag måste erkänna att det svenska språket är vacker ;) Prisad vare Google Translator
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Message 1178919 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011, 19:03:14 UTC
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Vackert, Sten-Arne.

Right now I am watching the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n19HIHCpOVE&feature=endscreen&NR=1

1 hours 5 min, 56 sec.

Please skip the introduction (if any) and watch the rest of the stuff.

Another supposedly lecture from a professor (by means of a title).

Being British and speaking English (most importantly), this man is able to get his point passed on and mentioned around.

Is it all related to the subject of Mathematics? I guess Chris could clarify if he took the time at watching this video.
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Message 1179035 - Posted: 18 Dec 2011, 8:19:23 UTC

This is the kind of stuff that makes me glad I created Lone Wolves of Discovery Team. There are folk who want to contribute to the SETI cause with out all the drama and crud that goes along with helping out.

We aren't interested in work loads nor accomplishments, like those who've taken screen shots of their wonderful credits to boast how well they have supported SETI.

There are many of us who simply want to accelerate the SETI research. Enough said.

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Message 1179048 - Posted: 18 Dec 2011, 10:48:58 UTC
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I think MusicPlayer's last post explained himself best. (whiskey on the rocks)

- Can we not all feel the love?

-re:cheawick - I say "ditto"
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Message 1179060 - Posted: 18 Dec 2011, 13:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 1179035.  

There are many of us who simply want to accelerate the SETI research. Enough said.

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I agree.

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Message 1179151 - Posted: 18 Dec 2011, 23:15:28 UTC
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What is the largest pulse I could possibly get or have when it comes to the score?

Same goes for at least the spike score as well. Should also the other two elements be included in this question?

If some pulses became as large as shown here, was there anything more that possibly came along?

Are different Work Units validated against each other when in comes to the counts of the different elements (like the spikes and the pulses) or are the numbers being returned either stored / recorded and possibly being looked at in due time?
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Message 1179639 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 1:35:48 UTC
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5156211833488383900000000000000000.000000 (!)

Heck. What a pulse!

Anyway, should we in some way be concerned?

Which number place does it get in at comparing with the previous pulses?

In fact, I do not know it myself. I will have to find it out.

Maybe you should not be concerned at all if you believe that we are alone in the Universe and that we humans are the only ones who are able to think and deduce about things and facts and possibly are having feelings as well.

Surprised? But what about this pulse's real nature? Are there anyone else here who are having these pulses in their logs?

It looks to me that people are just lazy at the moment. I want to find it out myself!

The line having this pulse in it are having four valid elements for the corresponding scores.

"nr","date","result_name","cpu","start_ra","start_dec","end_ra","end_dec",
"angle_range","time_recorded","bs_score","bs_power","spike_count","bg_score",
"bg_power","bg_chisq","gaussian_count","bp_score","bp_power","bp_period",
"pulse_count","bt_score","bt_power","bt_period","triplet_count"

"482","2009.10.03 09:30:38","27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0","07:20:59",
"23.078245952637","16.960854548509","23.108126970187","16.960872016972",
"0.42871991742892","2455070.7051854","3.148344","56286.431679475","12",
"-1.434033","2.849264383316","1.3977051973343","0",
"5156211833488383900000000000000000.000000","5.3709266544436e+034",
"3.7617664337158","16","12.086435","12.086435317993","2.6673152446747","3"

Yes, I know I have been doing this before, but maybe this time I possibly are doing it at an appropriate time and place?

It looks as I am never becoming tired of doing this stuff.

Here you apparently have a spike score much higher than usual (at least what is available at the current moment).

You may be able to see that spike count is 12, gaussian count is 0, despite having a valid gaussian in the task with a score of -1.434033, the corresponding power for this gaussian is 2.849264383316 and fit (chi square) is 1.3977051973343 .

Pulse count is 16 and triplet count is 3.

If a valid signal is supposed to be having numbers, in what part of such number (like this result line) do we look for intelligence? Are you able to deduce whether such a number (by means of its complete result line) is an intelligent signal at all?

Let us look at the lines for the spike scores:

"result_name","power","ra","dec","time","freq","fft_len","chirp_rate"

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",8947.8987746482,23.091331446805,
16.960859680153,2455070.7057291,1419676789.1943,131072,0.59429960952428
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",8006.7645133129,23.102547769196,
16.960852561652,2455070.7061951,1419671594.9476,131072,0.67286176630432
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",16221.348043594,23.085958432128,
16.960857573595,2455070.7055058,1419676536.3216,16384,0.87157780992442
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",112.89139633555,23.102547769196,
16.960852561652,2455070.7061951,1419670402.1096,131072,-1.3984063906847
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",513.75807358727,23.079181576886,
16.960854915573,2455070.7052242,1419669370.9493,65536,-1.8522183786729
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",515.47973930399,23.087593602529,
16.960858214764,2455070.7055738,1419669471.5321,131072,-7.9467932234678
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",256.78317957471,23.093434156985,
16.960860504343,2455070.7058165,1419673436.8801,16384,8.1427364850839
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",56286.431679475,23.087593602529,
16.960858214764,2455070.7055738,1419675907.7907,131072,8.32481583668
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",517.21587240619,23.087593602529,
16.960858214764,2455070.7055738,1419672864.5265,131072,8.4597578942081
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",3970.8331549698,23.080116605464,
16.960855282381,2455070.7052631,1419675556.8683,131072,8.4828644109081
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",29564.635697685,23.09974367904,
16.960862976763,2455070.7060786,1419673669.9343,65536,-8.5623508283561
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",1024.8419622101,23.080116605464,
16.960855282381,2455070.7052631,1419676279.7236,131072,-8.8377805074202

Similarly, the three lines for the triplet powers are as follows:

"result_name","power","mean","period","ra","dec","time","freq","fft_len", "chirp rate"

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",12.086435317993,0.0076354192569852,
2.6673152446747,23.097734552163,16.960862189589,2455070.7059952,
1419674911.499,128,15.216103377291
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",11.556213378906,0.0075526335276663,
2.6673152446747,23.097734552163,16.960862189589,2455070.7059952,
1419674835.2051,128,16.230017330088
"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",10.673427581787,0.0074783246964216,
2.6673152446747,23.097734552163,16.960862189589,2455070.7059952,
1419674758.9111,128,17.244855543552

And finally, the 16 lines for the pulse scores:

"result_name","score","power","mean","period","ra","dec","time","freq",
"fft_len","chirp_rate","snr","thresh","len_prof",("prof")

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",56870.641,464454,0.00097318604821339,
2.9420201778412,23.086966292009,16.960857968796,2455070.7055477,
1419672241.2109,16,0,928908,16.333700180054,1795,00

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",13.642529,60.703426361084,0.0040516387671232,
1.5237120389938,23.086972017872,16.960857971041,2455070.7055479,
1419674377.4414,64,0,171.69522094727,12.585292816162,232,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",381.57406,1290.5938720703,0.070034846663475,
1.0747903585434,23.098940816331,16.960864479473,2455070.7060453,
1419669990.5396,1024,0.88729024128043,4081.2160644531,10.695737838745,10,0000000000000000FEFE

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",3770.237,36394.8828125,0.0080961538478732,
3.4930686950684,23.086956437675,16.960857964932,2455070.7055473,
1419669723.5107,128,8.1150086650439,63037.78515625,16.719846725464,266,00

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",5.1562118E33,5.3709266544436e+034,
0.00097917183302343,3.7617664337158,23.085221159391,16.960857284479,
2455070.7054752,1419674682.6172,16,-8.1150086650439,9.3027173123049e+034,
18.041767120361,2296,00

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",527.42989,684.38916015625,0.032244455069304,
0.28180480003357,23.106278091752,16.960865536201,2455070.7063502,
1419670581.8176,512,8.369180348744,4328.4575195313,8.2066974639893,5,0000000000

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",1.0047328,7.6090450286865,0.0076354192569852,
2.669499874115,23.097405262397,16.960862060563,2455070.7059815,1419674911.499,
128,15.216103377291,15.218091011047,15.146406173706,203,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",1.0012698,7.5828189849854,0.0075526335276663,
2.669499874115,23.097405262397,16.960862060563,2455070.7059815,
1419674835.2051,128,16.230017330088,15.165638923645,15.146406173706,203,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",1.0068774,3.1841988563538,0.0073619433678687,
0.80773121118546,23.085213600214,16.960857281515,2455070.7054749,
1419675292.9688,128,-23.331112042335,11.030388832092,10.955046653748,61,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",1.0100703,3.1942963600159,0.0076228794641793,
0.80773121118546,23.085213600214,16.960857281515,2455070.7054749,
1419675369.2627,128,-26.374702422061,11.065367698669,10.955047607422,61,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",2.1758191,18.999942779541,33737.57421875,
4.1943039894104,23.095799872551,16.960861431483,2455070.7059148,
1419667973.5184,2048,-42.034450919992,32.908866882324,15.124817848206,20,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",2.2017188,18.999935150146,33737.5859375,
3.2505855560303,23.097552737195,16.960862118348,2455070.7059876,
1419667973.5184,2048,-42.034450919992,32.908855438232,14.946892738342,15,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",2.1758175,18.999929428101,33746.2109375,
4.1943039894104,23.095799872551,16.960861431483,2455070.7059148,
1419667978.2867,2048,-42.034450919992,32.908843994141,15.124817848206,20,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",2.2017177,18.999925613403,33746.21875,
3.2505855560303,23.097552737195,16.960862118348,2455070.7059876,
1419667978.2867,2048,-42.034450919992,32.908836364746,14.946891784668,15,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",2.1758173,18.999927520752,33723.23046875,
4.1943039894104,23.095799872551,16.960861431483,2455070.7059148,
1419667983.0551,2048,-42.034450919992,32.908840179443,15.124817848206,20,

"27au09aa.29623.67.4.10.222_1_0",2.2017177,18.999927520752,33723.23046875,
3.2505855560303,23.097552737195,16.960862118348,2455070.7059876,
1419667983.0551,2048,-42.034450919992,32.908840179443,14.946893692017,15,

For now, I have excluded the last column ("prof") in those instances when this field (column) became very long.

If I am able to get the lines for these pulses put up correctly, those lines who are not having this last element in it ends with a comma (",").

If I am not getting this correctly, I will return with the necessary edit on these pulse lines.
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Message 1179660 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 5:08:16 UTC

Musicplayer--just be aware not every pulse is a hit....I think you're going overboard just a bit here.


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Message 1179699 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 13:23:13 UTC

I think this thread has meandered far and wide from my starting point...
And can now be closed.
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