Im completely lost now... ^.^

There was some hated router that needed more memory, Ive readed that when they got the modules they were not able to install them cause the router was in a closed closet (Ive thought in the campus) and they were not having the keys...
Ive thought that router was the paix router in which the gigabit link ended...

So I thought that the hardware part of the issue to increase the bandwith was in the last mile, i.e. from the campus closet to the lab, hence why I was talking about using a wireless bridge...

It seems Ive thought to much... (and wrong!) :D

No, my friend...
The memory upgrade to the router in question was to enable it to handle the routing tables properly so many folks no longer have connection problems.
That has been done, and was successful. It is still limited to 100Mb/s.

There are still some lingering questions about why it seems that occasionally some connecting through a proxy can get better results downloading that without.
Nobody has an answer to that puzzle yet.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

And the routing is more complex than that. The SETI labs are indeed at the top of the hill: but the "IT racks where the HE router with the gigabit connection is located" are in Palo Alto (PAIX internet backbone switching centre), some 30 miles away across San Francisco Bay from Berkeley. The data is carried in a VPN 'tunnel' between Palo Alto and the SETI lab, passing through a variety of Campus and off-campus hardware on the way. Every link in that chain, plus the encryption/decryption 'portals' of the tunnel - router co-processor modules - have to be gigabit-capable for the whole thing to work.

The more important thingy is they have to have campus PERMISSION for the whole thing to work.

If it was just a matter of upgrading the hardware, we would be on it faster than a cat skittering turds on a hot tin roof.

ROFLMFAOUMSA!!!!

(UMSA= until my sides ache)

Meowy Christmas, Mark, from me, Baby, and the spirits of Berry, Nero, Dyna, Susie B. Shrimp, and Alberta.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

And the routing is more complex than that. The SETI labs are indeed at the top of the hill: but the "IT racks where the HE router with the gigabit connection is located" are in Palo Alto (PAIX internet backbone switching centre), some 30 miles away across San Francisco Bay from Berkeley. The data is carried in a VPN 'tunnel' between Palo Alto and the SETI lab, passing through a variety of Campus and off-campus hardware on the way. Every link in that chain, plus the encryption/decryption 'portals' of the tunnel - router co-processor modules - have to be gigabit-capable for the whole thing to work.

The more important thingy is they have to have campus PERMISSION for the whole thing to work.

If it was just a matter of upgrading the hardware, we would be on it faster than a cat skittering turds on a hot tin roof.

ROFLMFAOUMSA!!!!

(UMSA= until my sides ache)

Meowy Christmas, Mark, from me, Baby, and the spirits of Berry, Nero, Dyna, Susie B. Shrimp, and Alberta.

Merry upcoming Christmas to you as well........
But, who are Berry, Nero, Dyna, Susie B., Shrimp, and Alberta?

I used to have a GF named Suzie Q......(Quattro).....I suppose they may be kitties???

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

And the routing is more complex than that. The SETI labs are indeed at the top of the hill: but the "IT racks where the HE router with the gigabit connection is located" are in Palo Alto (PAIX internet backbone switching centre), some 30 miles away across San Francisco Bay from Berkeley. The data is carried in a VPN 'tunnel' between Palo Alto and the SETI lab, passing through a variety of Campus and off-campus hardware on the way. Every link in that chain, plus the encryption/decryption 'portals' of the tunnel - router co-processor modules - have to be gigabit-capable for the whole thing to work.

The more important thingy is they have to have campus PERMISSION for the whole thing to work.

If it was just a matter of upgrading the hardware, we would be on it faster than a cat skittering turds on a hot tin roof.

ROFLMFAOUMSA!!!!

(UMSA= until my sides ache)

Meowy Christmas, Mark, from me, Baby, and the spirits of Berry, Nero, Dyna, Susie B. Shrimp, and Alberta.

Merry upcoming Christmas to you as well........
But, who are Berry, Nero, Dyna, Susie B., Shrimp, and Alberta?

I used to have a GF named Suzie Q......(Quattro).....I suppose they may be kitties???

They indeed were all kitties. Nero (my personal sweetie) and Dyna(mite) were siblings and were with us together with (Straw)Berry (Blond). Susie B. Shrimp came to us back when the Susan B. Anthony dollar coins first came out and was a very tiny little kitten. Alberta was born before I was. Baby is my current grouch.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

They indeed were all kitties. Nero (my personal sweetie) and Dyna(mite) were siblings and were with us together with (Straw)Berry (Blond). Susie B. Shrimp came to us back when the Susan B. Anthony dollar coins first came out and was a very tiny little kitten. Alberta was born before I was. Baby is my current grouch.

Wonderful kitty names.

I have my 4 beloveds........
Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball.

They are the loves of my life, my reason for being, I suspect.
Oh, and there is Tuxy, the rescue from a couple of weeks ago that is currently in the shelter awaiting rescue. If I did not already have 4, he might be the next one.
We are going to check on him tomorrow to see how he is doing. If I cannot restrain myself, he might be #5.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

They indeed were all kitties. Nero (my personal sweetie) and Dyna(mite) were siblings and were with us together with (Straw)Berry (Blond). Susie B. Shrimp came to us back when the Susan B. Anthony dollar coins first came out and was a very tiny little kitten. Alberta was born before I was. Baby is my current grouch.

To bring back some semblance of Seti content, Susie resembled the cat/alien in that awful movie with Sandy Duncan.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

They indeed were all kitties. Nero (my personal sweetie) and Dyna(mite) were siblings and were with us together with (Straw)Berry (Blond). Susie B. Shrimp came to us back when the Susan B. Anthony dollar coins first came out and was a very tiny little kitten. Alberta was born before I was. Baby is my current grouch.

To bring back some semblance of Seti content, Susie resembled the cat/alien in that awful movie with Sandy Duncan.

Hmmmmmmm.....

What movie was that?
You all have to see the current kitty flick........

Puss n' Boots...

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

They indeed were all kitties. Nero (my personal sweetie) and Dyna(mite) were siblings and were with us together with (Straw)Berry (Blond). Susie B. Shrimp came to us back when the Susan B. Anthony dollar coins first came out and was a very tiny little kitten. Alberta was born before I was. Baby is my current grouch.

To bring back some semblance of Seti content, Susie resembled the cat/alien in that awful movie with Sandy Duncan.

Hmmmmmmm.....

What movie was that?
You all have to see the current kitty flick........

Puss n' Boots...

It was The Cat from Outer Space, of course. Sandy had a lot of scenes with this cat, and she was allergic to cats. I liked it, but I was 11 that summer, so what did I know about quality filmmaking?

However, I just looked at Youtube for clips (they all suck) and I take it back. Susie didn't look ANYTHING like that cat. So much for memory.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

I'd personally rather see those with means to donate, donate to either SETI directly or help us build a better infrastructure at the project via the RAID array, DL servers, AP server and so on and so forth.

Slavac, perhaps it would benefit us all to know why you'd rather see those with means help the GPUUG buy hardware for SETI@Home than expand the bandwidth.

This network-illiterate looks at the Cricket graph and sees the bandwidth absolutely, positively, maxed-out. I am vaguely aware in a very foggy sort-of way that there are a lot of "hits" on the servers by our constantly asking for work. Since the upload (from our perspective) bandwidth used is a fraction of the download bandwidth used, and since the requests must be tiny, tiny compared to the upload (from our perspective) file size, and since we are asking for work FAR less often than we used-to (increased retry and back-off times), I'm left not understanding how reducing latency at the server is going to free-up enough bandwidth for anyone to notice.

It's not that I oppose the idea of a faster RAID array. I think I'm on record as saying something about a "brand new shiny hardware RAID controller" some time ago after Mark complained again that the Linux software RAID kept breaking. I hate to see a man as cool as Mark cry, so I suggested that if he wanted a hardware RAID controller I suspect we could make that happen. (I'm not even sure if what you've sent qualifies as a "hardware" controller.)

Soooo, I'm NOT challenging you. I'm NOT arguing with you. I AM asking you if you can explain how the new RAID array will make a noticeable improvement in the way we use bandwidth?

Does someone have an estimate of the amount of bandwidth we've been wasting?

I have recently expressed my disbelief that we are making good use of the bandwidth we have based on the maxed-out Cricket with the limits in place which are just choking the life out of the previously most productive computers.

But if anyone has explained what is actually going-on, I've missed it.

Do you know and can you explain it in plain language?

Maybe it would be easier for someone to "see their way clear" to making a donation if they had any idea what the expected benefit is. (I don't personally require this.)

You have done a stellar job of defining the costs but the benefits are still a little fuzzy.

Is there a little clarity available for those playing the home version?

Sorry for the delay in response on this. I asked Matt to detail what the RAID array we're building will be doing for the SETI at Home project. Please see http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66044&nowrap=true#1179419 for details on this.

Hopefully that clears up why we're working hard on the hardware front.

-Brad

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brad@gpuug.org

I'm also very low income and If a certain cretin in DC has His way My Federal SSI income would go down possibly from $698 a month to whatever It was in 2007, So I'm out. Heck I wanted to buy a mobile home on Its own land for less than $35,000.00, I'm watching one for $15,500.00 that needs some minor repairs too, Now I don't know If I'll have the income to survive on My own or not without It being paid off and I don't think I'd be able to rent here as I'd have to choose between eating and rent and of course, repairs to the car, like My a/c? impossible.

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