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Message 1176472 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 11:04:18 UTC - in response to Message 1176091.
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Wish I had such luck....
The way it's been working here, my top rig runs out of Seti due to repeated 'no work' responses and just a handful of issued tasks. It has a 0% share on Einstein, so when the GPU runs dry on Seti, it picks up several hours of Einstein work and persistently keeps trying to get work from Seti while that is being crunched. It manages to get something built up and goes back to it when the Einstein is done and then repeats the cycle.

Of course, with today's outage coming up, it's gonna be doing Einstein for the next 12 hours or more.

Only the slower hosts on the project could stay supplied with Seti work the way things are going right now.

The servers have actually held up reasonably well considering the shorty pounding...if we could get a day or two with some datasets split that did not contain 95% VHAR we might be able to get a leg up on things.[/quote]

MSATTLER: Just a question:

If you set 'Resource share' to 0: What happens when the application nears Deadline?
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Message 1176487 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 13:44:54 UTC - in response to Message 1176472.

Wish I had such luck....
The way it's been working here, my top rig runs out of Seti due to repeated 'no work' responses and just a handful of issued tasks. It has a 0% share on Einstein, so when the GPU runs dry on Seti, it picks up several hours of Einstein work and persistently keeps trying to get work from Seti while that is being crunched. It manages to get something built up and goes back to it when the Einstein is done and then repeats the cycle.

Of course, with today's outage coming up, it's gonna be doing Einstein for the next 12 hours or more.

Only the slower hosts on the project could stay supplied with Seti work the way things are going right now.

The servers have actually held up reasonably well considering the shorty pounding...if we could get a day or two with some datasets split that did not contain 95% VHAR we might be able to get a leg up on things.

Guess it's your BOINC 6.12.* that sucks...

I stayed with 6.10.60 on my PCs, except when I started my old PC again I installed the new version thinking, it can't be that bad. But I ran out of work more than once and decided to go back to 6.10.60, and within a day or so I had a full cache and it have stayed that way.

So my question is, will the BOINC team fix that clear problem in future versions ?

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Message 1176495 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 15:01:20 UTC - in response to Message 1176472.

Clyde,
If you set the resource share to zero, you only pick up work for that project when your main project is out of work. When that zero project has work it will run them until it finishes all of them it has downloaded and then if your main project has work it will start back on it. It shouldn't load so much of your backup project as to run into any problem with deadlines.
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Message 1176498 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 15:52:40 UTC

same crap different day.....i cant get enough work to last more than a couple of hours....that why i left before....back to the same crap

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Message 1176500 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 16:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 1176495.

Clyde,
If you set the resource share to zero, you only pick up work for that project when your main project is out of work. When that zero project has work it will run them until it finishes all of them it has downloaded and then if your main project has work it will start back on it. It shouldn't load so much of your backup project as to run into any problem with deadlines.


Awhile back, when I was running a couple of share 0 projects against SETI, to avoid unused cycles when SETI was bad, IIRC it D/L WUs for those projects 1 at a time per CPU/GPU so as to not build up a queue. Does BOINC still have the same behavior?
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Message 1176501 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 16:07:29 UTC

The boys in the lab will probably just jumpstart the rigs again when they get in in the morning and all will be well


It's Just gone 8AM in Berkeley and the cricket graph is looking more positive, someone kicked something :-)

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Message 1176503 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 16:35:13 UTC - in response to Message 1176495.

Clyde,
If you set the resource share to zero, you only pick up work for that project when your main project is out of work. When that zero project has work it will run them until it finishes all of them it has downloaded and then if your main project has work it will start back on it. It shouldn't load so much of your backup project as to run into any problem with deadlines.

That's the way it's been working....and probably will continue to at the rate the rig is (or is not) getting Seti work. When 1 GPU goes idle, it downloads a batch of Einstein tasks, about 10-20, not sure exactly. It then finishes the Seti work on the remaining 3 GPUs and works on the batch of Einstein tasks until they have finished. If there is Seti work that has been downloaded in the interim, Einstein does not request new work and goes back to the Seti tasks when the Einstein is done and will stay on them until a GPU goes dry again.
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Message 1176504 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 16:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 1176501.
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uploading again !!

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Message 1176516 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 17:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 1176471.
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It's 38 degrees F in Berkeley.


Is it about 4 C? So cold in CA? I'm shocked!

It was 2.5C, Now It's a warm 4.2C. DA?(that's all of My Russian)

As to uploads, the last of mine finally went through, now if some results will report.
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Message 1176519 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 17:24:17 UTC - in response to Message 1176516.


It's 38 degrees F in Berkeley.


Is it about 4 C? So cold in CA? I'm shocked!

It was 2.5C, Now It's a warm 4.2C. DA?(that's all of My Russian)

As to uploads, the last of mine finally went through, now if some results will report.

Reporting is working fine here. Just not much in the way of new WUs being sent in exchange for the ones reported.
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Message 1176524 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 17:52:06 UTC - in response to Message 1176519.

As to uploads, the last of mine finally went through, now if some results will report.

Reporting is working fine here. Just not much in the way of new WUs being sent in exchange for the ones reported.

When whatever was down got kicked and the crickets came back to life, the blue line jumped above its normal average, as it usually does after such an event. This makes me think bandwidth isn't restricting uploading/reporting and the blue line's normal is where it should be for the given amount of work going out.

(Does that either A: make sense, or B: state something incredibly obvious?)

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Message 1176529 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 18:23:41 UTC

Maybe it's just me being cynical but has anyone else noticed that major problems always seem to occur when there's a funding drive on ?

The same sh*t happened in December last year as is happening now.

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Message 1176532 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 18:31:44 UTC

hmmmmmmmmmm...... i think your right about fund raisng

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Message 1176533 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 18:33:06 UTC - in response to Message 1176529.

Maybe it's just me being cynical but has anyone else noticed that major problems always seem to occur when there's a funding drive on ?

The same sh*t happened in December last year as is happening now.

T.A.

I'm pretty sure things have taken a giant dump several other times during the past year. I don't think the hardware gets offended when they ask for money to fix/replace it. With the longer holidays in Nov/Dec I would expect they spend less time babysitting everything.
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Message 1176536 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 18:46:07 UTC

One of the problems is that every year they get a small fraction of what they actually need. It's too bad we haven't been able to find a doner with really, really deep pockets, not to fund Seti for the future, but at least to catch up on where it should be at the moment. If I could, I would, but at the moment that is just a dream.....

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Message 1176537 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 18:49:41 UTC - in response to Message 1176533.
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When i went to bed there were 100s of WUs wating to upload. Got up this morning & most of them had cleared, but now there are new uploads backing up.
The upload server is having issues again.
Combined with most requests for work resulting in "Project has no tasks available" has resulted in one machine running out of GPU work & the other will run out in a couple of hours.
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Message 1176538 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 18:56:39 UTC - in response to Message 1176533.

Maybe it's just me being cynical but has anyone else noticed that major problems always seem to occur when there's a funding drive on ?

The same sh*t happened in December last year as is happening now.

T.A.

I'm pretty sure things have taken a giant dump several other times during the past year. I don't think the hardware gets offended when they ask for money to fix/replace it. With the longer holidays in Nov/Dec I would expect they spend less time babysitting everything.

Another possible source of correlation is that whenever there's a fundraising drive, we hear from people who have drifted away from crunching over the months and years, but are reminded about the project by the fundraising email - and then come back to crunching, at least for a while.

In short, the funding drive can actually put an extra strain on the servers, and not just from the effort of processing all those emails :P

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Message 1176539 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 19:02:51 UTC
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My tasks were uploaded today by means of me pushing the Retry-button once in the Transfers box. One of the tasks was a little reluctant, but finally was uploaded.

Anyway, when checking out the news section on Yahoo! (news.yahoo.com), I notice that the pages are a little to slow.

I am trying to get any further news about that mysterious object which supposedly has been spotted close to the planet Mercury.

Is this the first time this possibly has happened, or do mysterious objects hide close to the sun as well? These days it may seem ordinary people are being cheated by scientists all the time. When should we believe and when should we not believe?

If I am not wrong, there are some 2 billion results being stored on the servers. Still people are complaining about uploads and downloads. Maybe there are some results of true scientific value going up and down over time. If not so, I and definitely many others may already have the results which could be regarded as significant.

Or is this perhaps a bit premature to say?

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Message 1176561 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 20:31:34 UTC

Well I can't complain over upload or download problems. I have WUs to last me over at least one more weekly outage, probably two outages....

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Message 1176566 - Posted: 8 Dec 2011, 20:47:54 UTC - in response to Message 1176539.

I am trying to get any further news about that mysterious object which supposedly has been spotted close to the planet Mercury.


Sorry, my ride slipped out. I've moved it back where it belongs so you can quit worrying about it. Move along, nothing to see here. This is not the spaceship you were looking for.
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