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Message 1175146 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 12:19:27 UTC

Good morning all,
In the last 120 hours I have been receiving backoff messages for UL and Dl's.
Then if I do get the Dl queue cleared I can not get any new work for either CPU or GPU. Right now I have 58 tasks in my cache 45 are pending DL (I usually have close to 400 - 500 in cache).
I have not been able to get any GPU tasks for almost 24 hours.

Yes, I have been trying to connect both direct and thru various proxies, but still can not get this cleared up.

Thanks for you help...

02-Dec-2011 06:44:15 [SETI@home] Reporting 2 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
02-Dec-2011 06:44:22 [---] Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
02-Dec-2011 06:44:22 [SETI@home] Temporarily failed download of 21oc11aa.29629.897.15.10.133: HTTP error
02-Dec-2011 06:44:22 [SETI@home] Backing off 15 min 0 sec on download of 21oc11aa.29629.897.15.10.133
02-Dec-2011 06:44:42 [SETI@home] Scheduler request failed: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)
02-Dec-2011 06:45:00 [---] Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.


01-Dec-2011 23:10:09 [SETI@home] update requested by user
01-Dec-2011 23:10:14 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01-Dec-2011 23:10:14 [SETI@home] Reporting 5 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
01-Dec-2011 23:10:17 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed
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Message 1175149 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 12:30:32 UTC

Select one of the stuck downloads and hit the "re-try" button.
I've found that once you get a pile of stuck downloads you will end up stuck in a vicious cycle, nothing will up/down load until you've got them cleared, and the retry time will just keep getting longer until it hits the limits.
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Message 1175160 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 13:15:45 UTC - in response to Message 1175149.

I have done that For several days and I still get the same messages.
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Message 1175174 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 15:17:38 UTC

Try connecting using this proxy server, a lot of us are using it with very good results. Also see the "More HE Problems" thread

To use a proxy server (For a version 6.10.xx BOINC client)
Go Advanced Tab->Options->HTTP Proxy.
Enter 69.163.96.2 Port 8080

Let us know how you go.

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Message 1175184 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 16:14:05 UTC

Since you don't have newer ATI cards, I also recommend you "downgrade" your boinc to version 6.10.60.
It is not possible to achieve anything with 6.12.x on seti due to its ridiculous back-off times.
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Message 1175217 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 20:36:48 UTC - in response to Message 1175184.
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Since you don't have newer ATI cards, I also recommend you "downgrade" your boinc to version 6.10.60.
It is not possible to achieve anything with 6.12.x on seti due to its ridiculous back-off times.


As a footnote, I have just "downgraded" Boinc to the above version 6.10.60.
Minimal back off times are a breath of fresh air. This version babysits for you. Just to watch it in action it is pure joy, after months of pure hell.
It will not give up, or go to sleep, until it has downloaded, uploaded or reported WU's.

Thank you, thank you Khangollo so much for the advice.

Regards,

A

PS, running with Nvidia, not ATI.

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Message 1175228 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 21:28:37 UTC - in response to Message 1175217.

Listen, and understand. That 6.10.60 is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are downloaded.

;)

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Message 1175229 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 21:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 1175228.

I will backoff and downgrade to the previous version.

As for using proxies I have been using them now for 3 weeks. Most of the time I have no problems. This all started on Tuesday (weekly outage). I went back and took a look it seems like I have most of problems on Tuesday and Wednesday and finally clears up by Sunday then I go right back into this awful mode of not getting any wu, most of the time not getting any GPU wu's.

As for the system I am running its amd x6 1100T with a GTX 580 GPU.

I process in a normal about 200 - 300 WU's a day. The CPU averages about 90 minutes/wu and the GPU does them in about 90 seconds.
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Message 1175230 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 21:44:10 UTC

To use a proxy server (For a version 6.10.xx BOINC client)
Go Advanced Tab->Options->HTTP Proxy.
Enter 69.163.96.2 Port 8080


Is this a temp fix?

Did two of my computers and did help.

On my install of Boinc:
To access the settings: TOOLS > DISPLAY AND NETWORK OPTIONS > HTTP PROXY
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Message 1175236 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 22:05:37 UTC - in response to Message 1175230.

I have tried 3 different proxy servers sometimes it works sometimes I still get the same message.

As of right now I finally got 3 cuda_fermi wu (that will last me all but 5 minutes) and 29 cpu wu's, which are still Dl and most likely will take the rest of the night to do. Yes I am using a proxy to get these.
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Message 1175239 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 22:13:05 UTC - in response to Message 1175230.

To use a proxy server (For a version 6.10.xx BOINC client)
Go Advanced Tab->Options->HTTP Proxy.
Enter 69.163.96.2 Port 8080


Is this a temp fix?

Did two of my computers and did help.

On my install of Boinc:
To access the settings: TOOLS > DISPLAY AND NETWORK OPTIONS > HTTP PROXY


I am jealous that you are still able to use that proxy; it will no longer work for me. I am starting to downgrade about a hundred nodes from 6.12.x to 6.10.60.
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Message 1175245 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 22:45:16 UTC - in response to Message 1175239.


When downgrading, is replacing boincmgr.exe with the appropriate version boincmgr.exe sufficient, or do you have to replace all the other files in the BOINC directory as well?
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Message 1175249 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 22:51:36 UTC - in response to Message 1175245.

I am not sure maybe one of the experts can comment. I am using the installer just to be safe.
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Message 1175255 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 23:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 1175239.

To use a proxy server (For a version 6.10.xx BOINC client)
Go Advanced Tab->Options->HTTP Proxy.
Enter 69.163.96.2 Port 8080


Is this a temp fix?

Did two of my computers and did help.

On my install of Boinc:
To access the settings: TOOLS > DISPLAY AND NETWORK OPTIONS > HTTP PROXY


I am jealous that you are still able to use that proxy; it will no longer work for me. I am starting to downgrade about a hundred nodes from 6.12.x to 6.10.60.


I tried to downgrade BOINC to 6.10.60.
What happened was that I lost the SETI project and all the WU's in the BOINC manager.
However when reinstalling 6.12.34 they all where back.
So my question is, how do you do a proper downgrade?


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Message 1175256 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 23:31:54 UTC - in response to Message 1175245.
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When downgrading, is replacing boincmgr.exe with the appropriate version boincmgr.exe sufficient, or do you have to replace all the other files in the BOINC directory as well?

If you want to downgrade from Boinc 6.12.x to 6.10.x, uninstall 6.12.x then install 6.10.x, if you just run the 6.10.x installer after having 6.12.x installed, you'll have run the 6.10.x installer a 2nd time to do a repair as well.

If you change Boinc Manager for an earlier version you aren't changing anything that will make the scheduling better, as you're not downgrading to an earlier Boinc client.

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Message 1175258 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011, 23:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 1175256.

If you change Boinc Manager for an earlier version you aren't changing anything that will make the scheduling better, as you're not downgrading to an earlier Boinc client.

Claggy

Thanks.
Just downgraded. It will be nice not to have to hit retry endlessly while i'm at home just to get new work.
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Message 1175263 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 0:23:48 UTC - in response to Message 1175239.

Hi, I'm running 6.12.34 and want to know what proxy settings I can use? Are the 6.10.xx settings ok or should I use something else?

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Message 1175264 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 0:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 1175263.

Hi, I'm running 6.12.34 and want to know what proxy settings I can use? Are the 6.10.xx settings ok or should I use something else?


A proxy doesn't care what version you are on of Boinc.
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Message 1175267 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 0:32:40 UTC - in response to Message 1175264.

Thanks I thought it might from the conversation above. Unfortunately though I've tried the settings mentioned "69.163.96.2 Port 8080" and it wont connect. I actually get better results without the proxy, but those results are so bad it reminds me of when I had a 28.8kbs dial up modem. So does anyone have any ideas? Would my Norton 360 firewall need to be changed so I can use the proxy?


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Message 1175269 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 0:34:35 UTC - in response to Message 1175267.


Probably need to find another one, the original proxy died for me several days ago.
A very sad time.
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