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Message 1171107 - Posted: 15 Nov 2011, 4:03:37 UTC
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Update
Still having problems even though direct downloads are working here again.

Direct, Average speed around 5KBs, Max Speed 12.5KBs with a delay of up to 45 seconds before downloads commence but no timeouts during the transfer. 50% chance of a timeout or other connection error when the computer attempts to report/request new work

Via Proxy, Average speed 55KBs, Max Speed 100KBs, downloads commence immediately, 10% chance of a timeout or other error during scheduler requests.

There is a 50% of getting a "No tasks sent" or "no tasks available" message on either path.

Pinging
208.68.240.13 Average 25% packet loss (4 tries)
208.68.240.16 Zero packet loss (4 tries)
208.68.240.18 100% packet loss - request timed out (4 tries)
208.68.240.20 Zero packet loss (4 tries)

Typical Trace Routes

Tracing route to boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

6 229 ms 227 ms 228 ms i-0-0-2-0.paix-core01.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.1
06]
7 1760 ms 1542 ms 230 ms i-2-1.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.101]
8 264 ms 259 ms 265 ms paix.he.net [198.32.176.20]
9 319 ms 501 ms 1047 ms 64.71.140.42
10 368 ms 521 ms 443 ms 208.68.243.254
11 271 ms 328 ms 362 ms boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.13]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.16]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

7 438 ms 551 ms 650 ms i-0-0-2-0.paix-core01.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.1
06]
8 895 ms 1147 ms 1197 ms i-1-1.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.70]
9 1393 ms 1199 ms 1049 ms paix.he.net [198.32.176.20]
10 1119 ms 769 ms 415 ms 64.71.140.42
11 443 ms 263 ms 263 ms 208.68.243.254
12 285 ms 292 ms 265 ms setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.16]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
7 235 ms 229 ms 228 ms i-0-0-2-0.paix-core01.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.1
06]
8 570 ms 419 ms 228 ms i-1-2.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.74]
9 * 1564 ms 1397 ms paix.he.net [198.32.176.20]
10 1198 ms 500 ms 601 ms 64.71.140.42
11 1081 ms 1100 ms 1111 ms 208.68.243.254
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 ^C


Tracing route to setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

7 226 ms 228 ms 229 ms i-0-0-2-0.paix-core01.bx.reach.com [202.84.140.1
06]
8 227 ms 226 ms 226 ms i-2-1.paix01.bi.reach.com [202.84.251.101]
9 261 ms 267 ms 259 ms paix.he.net [198.32.176.20]
10 260 ms 259 ms 259 ms 64.71.140.42
11 264 ms 265 ms 271 ms 208.68.243.254
12 270 ms 276 ms 266 ms setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.20]

Trace complete.


I was one of those who was totally cut off by the crook HE router a couple of months ago. This appears to be a similar, but not identical, problem

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Message 1171248 - Posted: 15 Nov 2011, 23:22:20 UTC

I wonder if the "download server 1" doesn't appear to be working issues we have seen are in fact issues with the routing. Where they seem to disappear before getting to one of the download servers, but the other one works fine.

Just speculating but maybe another router needs a memory upgrade? If they can work out which one is losing packets again.

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Message 1171301 - Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 2:07:01 UTC

I've tried the direct way and the proxies listed here and I can't do anything, no uploads or downloads, are there any other proxies available?
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Message 1171313 - Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 2:47:45 UTC - in response to Message 1171301.

Nothing works because SETI is down, there is only one thing we can do: waiting

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Message 1171316 - Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 3:20:51 UTC - in response to Message 1170924.


edit.....I wonder if they mind all the traffic going to Berkeley.........

I was wondering that myself. During the previous HE router problems the admins of the proxies that were being used noticed their bandwidth usage going through the roof and eventually blocked the SAH IP's. Hence the continuing hunt for working proxies.

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You can try Hotspot Shield
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=64691&nowrap=true#1140754

I think their servers will work always.
Every time you start Hotspot Shield another (random) server is used.


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Message 1171372 - Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 12:49:13 UTC - in response to Message 1171313.

Nothing works because SETI is down, there is only one thing we can do: waiting

As so often before, you can't trust the server status page, according to that page all is running.

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Message 1171498 - Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 21:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 1171372.

Well I'm nearly full again though using a proxy is still giving me a 3-5x faster download speeds than without.

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Message 1171546 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 0:48:01 UTC

I came home this afternoon and found all my uploads backed off, I turned off the proxy for now.
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Message 1171593 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 6:29:21 UTC - in response to Message 1171546.


I came home to find both my systems have work- the proxy is the best thing i've done with Seti since optimised apps.
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Message 1171702 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 19:24:45 UTC
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Still the same here. Without proxy, slow and almost impossible downloads. With the proxy, fast and furious downloads. There is definitely some problem brewing somewhere....

Maybe the next router that's low on memory. It's something often seen when trying to solve technical problems. Fix one problem, and the problem moves on to the next weak link in the chain.
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Message 1171763 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 23:35:27 UTC - in response to Message 1170816.

I did the same tracerouting to boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu (208.68.240.13) but got this result:

1 75.125.232.57 (75.125.232.57) 0.670 ms 0.407 ms 0.377 ms
2 te1-4.dsr01.hstntx1.networklayer.com (207.218.223.5) 0.640 ms 0.457 ms 0.385 ms
3 te1-1.dsr02.hstntx1.networklayer.com (74.55.252.2) 1.419 ms 0.568 ms 0.344 ms
4 te3-8.dsr02.dllstx3.networklayer.com (70.87.253.53) 5.471 ms 5.299 ms 5.366 ms
5 e4-4.ibr04.dllstx3.networklayer.com (70.87.255.41) 16.304 ms e6-1.ibr04.dllstx3.networklayer.com (70.87.255.45) 7.203 ms e4-4.ibr04.dllstx3.networklayer.com (70.87.255.41) 5.794 ms
6 10gigabitethernet3-1.core1.dal1.he.net (206.223.118.37) 5.790 ms 5.811 ms 5.835 ms
7 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.phx1.he.net (72.52.92.253) 29.819 ms 29.791 ms 29.565 ms
8 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.lax1.he.net (72.52.92.249) 39.438 ms 39.584 ms 39.660 ms
9 10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.pao1.he.net (72.52.92.21) 51.419 ms 49.379 ms 49.150 ms
10 64.71.140.42 (64.71.140.42) 46.673 ms 46.344 ms 46.915 ms
11 208.68.243.254 (208.68.243.254) 88.892 ms 90.088 ms 89.608 ms
12 * * *
13 *
Here something clearly goes wrong because this goes on beyond 30 hops.
2 addresses are also unresolved.

I used a tool on the web from a company called tracert.org which I believe is located in the US.

The name boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu looks to me that there are using SSL.
Could this be causing any troubles?
Proxies seems not to have this problem which is weird.

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Message 1171764 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 23:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 1171763.
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The name boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu looks to me that there are using SSL.
Could this be causing any troubles?
Proxies seems not to have this problem which is weird.

SSL means Space Sciences Laboratory:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/contact.php

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Message 1171766 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 23:45:57 UTC - in response to Message 1171763.

...
The name boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu looks to me that there are using SSL.
Could this be causing any troubles?
...

The ssl in the URL stands for Space Sciences Laboratory, that's the designation for the UCB building where S@h is located (along with many other space related efforts).
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Message 1171904 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 13:50:34 UTC

Update at 13:45Z 18/11/11
Downloads direct av. 5KBs with >50% halts and timeouts
Downloads via Proxy av. 25KBs peaking at 100KBs with approx 10% halts and timeouts.

I would really like to know why this is so. What sneaky pipeline does this proxy have to the SAH servers ?

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Message 1171909 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 14:12:12 UTC - in response to Message 1171904.



I would really like to know why this is so. What sneaky pipeline does this proxy have to the SAH servers ?

T.A.


Which proxy?
If that proxy in the US, there might be that HE has a nice bandwidth in the US but worse bandwidth thru the ocean. Your path to the proxy lays thru ocean cable of another provider and your path from proxy to S@H not the same as your path directly to the S@H.
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Message 1171913 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 14:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 1171904.

Update at 13:45Z 18/11/11
Downloads direct av. 5KBs with >50% halts and timeouts
Downloads via Proxy av. 25KBs peaking at 100KBs with approx 10% halts and timeouts.

I would really like to know why this is so. What sneaky pipeline does this proxy have to the SAH servers ?

T.A.


Me to. I tried tracerouting but that gives me only the direct way.
Do you know how to traceroute via a proxy?

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Message 1171916 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 14:41:12 UTC

Do you know how to traceroute via a proxy

It is not possible to (icmp) traceroute via a http proxy.
The only way to execute a traceroute on that machine is to have an user account on it. Or ask proxy's owner to do it for you (not recommended, heh...).
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Message 1171920 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 15:06:41 UTC - in response to Message 1171904.

Update at 13:45Z 18/11/11
Downloads direct av. 5KBs with >50% halts and timeouts
Downloads via Proxy av. 25KBs peaking at 100KBs with approx 10% halts and timeouts.

I would really like to know why this is so. What sneaky pipeline does this proxy have to the SAH servers ?

T.A.


For all we know it is in a rack next to the PAIX router. Which would be silly, but could be true.
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Message 1171935 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 16:30:53 UTC

For me, the proxy no longer works at all. BOINC is unable to connect to the internet.
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Message 1171936 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 16:39:36 UTC

Here from Switzerland, I had a strong slow down of seti communication and a lot of packet loss pinging seti server.
5 minutes ago I have seen this thread and I decide to use 69.163.96.2 HTTP proxy.
Now I'm downloading ad full speed from all my PC's.

Can I use it always?

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