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Message 1169341 - Posted: 9 Nov 2011, 5:38:55 UTC

I cannot understand why boxing is legal in the US. The purpose of this sport is to give one's opponent a head injury!

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Message 1169349 - Posted: 9 Nov 2011, 6:37:29 UTC - in response to Message 1169341.

I cannot understand why boxing is legal in the US. The purpose of this sport is to give one's opponent a head injury!

I thought that was politics? Give your opponent an ego injury.

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Message 1169354 - Posted: 9 Nov 2011, 7:17:08 UTC

Because it is considered a sport. Afterall, boxing is part of the olympics. As a matter of fact it is one of the oldest recognised sports. I never have cared too much for watching boxing and I certainly never would have participated even if I were able.
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Message 1169363 - Posted: 9 Nov 2011, 8:20:16 UTC

The purpose of boxing is the same as in all sports, be they contact(football)
or noncontact (tennis, bowling) To establish the dominant (alpha male)position. It is a strong trait that goes back to very beginnings of the human male species.
This particular trait is also exhibited in the animal world. In all animal species, the overwhelming urge in the male is to become the leader of the group. This gives them first pick of the females in the group, as well as the lions share of the food resources, as well as insuring the health and survival of the pack.
Every male, be they human or animal, is born with a overwhelning desire to be leader of the pack so to speak. This can be seen in such instances as the General in the military, the captain on a sports team, the supervisor in the workplace.
This has been going on since the beginning and will continue as long as there is two or more males of the same species. Although you may not like boxing,
there is not much you can do to change it. The males urge to be in the alpha
position will allways be there.

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Message 1169460 - Posted: 9 Nov 2011, 16:29:20 UTC

Boxing with gloves, a referee, and the Queensbury rules is an accepted contact sport in the Western world. A knockout, or other injury will (should) cause the bout to be ended by the referee before anyone gets seriously hurt. Not my cup of tea, especially female contestants, but there you are.

Illegal bare knuckle fights with no rules still go on in various countries, with big money backing them.

The famous fight from the 1952 Quiet Man film, starring John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara was filmed in Cong, County Mayo, in Ireland, and I visited there a few years ago, where it is still celebrated big time for the tourists.


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Message 1169543 - Posted: 9 Nov 2011, 19:59:16 UTC

For the exact reasons kaseychief stated are the same reasons why I cannot stand sports, including boxing.

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Message 1169922 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 1:27:14 UTC - in response to Message 1169363.

In all animal species, the overwhelming urge in the male is to become the leader of the group. This gives them first pick of the females in the group, as well as the lions share of the food resources, as well as insuring the health and survival of the pack.


All animal species? Are you sure? What definition of animal are you using?

Boxing? Not my cup of tea, though if the contestants enter the ring of their own volition I don't think I have an issue with it as a contest.

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Message 1170033 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 10:27:53 UTC

There are worse sports than boxing. Like in other things of life, you can like or dislike it. Boxe is not my vup of tea also as it's a sport where is allowed full contact and people get injured. But in many countries is like a religion, and people love it.

For me also American Football is a silly sport, but nevertheless is one of the most popular sports in the US. Also is a sport where you can get very bad injuries, but shall we ban it? I don't think so. Players no the risks and most important there is a lot of money envolved.

If we follow the original post point of view, why shall we not ban all sports where people can be injured, like soccer, american football, rugby, wrestling and many otheres where are phisical contact?

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Message 1170159 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 17:36:19 UTC

For that matter, why is owning and driving a personal vehicle (a car) legal? In the USA alone over 40,000 people get killed each year in automobile accidents. And from what I hear the numbers are similar in western Europe. Now that China has opened up and become a modern nation the numbers are even higher.

It's because it is not the government's responsibility or right to provide cradle to grave security unless we want to give up all of our freedoms.
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Message 1170176 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 18:33:00 UTC

The purpose of this sport is to give one's opponent a head injury!


I can't count the number of times my head has been bashed.

The only way to avoid it, is once born, to then die. Immediately.

Or, if one can be "safely" transported to The Moon and put deep underground. Assuming there is no seismic activity and no object is going to slam into the nearby surface. And, if one is put in a deep sleep, like in so many Sci-Fi books/movies, and of course, never becomes conscious and living. You know, mucking about.

Otherwise, make all possible Head Bashing Events(Living Life) illegal.

Yes, more people have been Killed/Injured/Disabled from Head Injuries while just Living Life than All Who Have Boxed.

Of course, letting People Box puts The Blame on All who Allow It, thus we feel we have contributed to the Pain and Suffering.

Jesus Frakking Christ! I'm going DEM/Lib! Kill Me Now!

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Message 1170272 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 23:57:23 UTC - in response to Message 1170159.

For that matter, why is owning and driving a personal vehicle (a car) legal? In the USA alone over 40,000 people get killed each year in automobile accidents. And from what I hear the numbers are similar in western Europe. Now that China has opened up and become a modern nation the numbers are even higher.

It's because it is not the government's responsibility or right to provide cradle to grave security unless we want to give up all of our freedoms.


I think for the OP it's about primary purpose, the primary purpose in a boxing match is to injure the opponent. Should you drive your car purposefully to injure others, you soon won't be driving your car.
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Message 1170274 - Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 0:07:45 UTC - in response to Message 1170176.

Ah, that is an explanation then <g>




I can't count the number of times my head has been bashed.



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Message 1170285 - Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 0:22:37 UTC


Actually, boxing has gained in popularity throughout the ages since the Lions let it be known they really didn't care that much for the taste of Christians, and people had to do something to fill in the idle hours.

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Message 1170309 - Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 2:27:53 UTC

An easier target for banning that is considered a "sport" would be MMA fighting. It doesn't have the history of boxing and is far more brutal.

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Message 1170875 - Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 0:10:51 UTC - in response to Message 1170309.

I'm not sure about more brutal. The championship matches are five, 5 minute rounds. Non-championship matches are three, 5 minute rounds. When a fighter is in trouble, the ref stops the fight instantly. They don't have to go 9 rounds of stand up, get your head bashed, and repeat. Also when in a submission hold, a fighter just taps out, and the hold is released. Due to the rapidly increasing populatity of MMA, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it becomes an olympic event. There is a lot of skill and stratedgy shown. It has come a long way since it first started.

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Message 1172099 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 5:09:11 UTC
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Why not play football instead? Maybe you would insist at rather calling it soccer instead?

Even in the United States I think there are now many football fields around where football the European style is being played.

In the boxing ring, however there will always be one winner and one loser.

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Message 1172153 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 11:39:52 UTC - in response to Message 1169460.

Boxing with gloves, a referee, and the Queensbury rules is an accepted contact sport in the Western world. A knockout, or other injury will (should) cause the bout to be ended by the referee before anyone gets seriously hurt. Not my cup of tea, especially female contestants, but there you are.

Illegal bare knuckle fights with no rules still go on in various countries, with big money backing them.

The famous fight from the 1952 Quiet Man film, starring John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara was filmed in Cong, County Mayo, in Ireland, and I visited there a few years ago, where it is still celebrated big time for the tourists.





Oddly enough, the family of my late father's best friend owned the 'pub' (Cohan's, in the film). I'm not sure if they still own it, but they also owned a 'pub' in Cheltenham that was full of horse-racing memorabilia....yes, they were an Irish family.

As to the original question, well, if two people were to start fighting outside the 'ring', they'd be arrested. Does this mean that within the ring they are allowed to break the law? Or would that only be the case if no-one was killed during the 'arranged fight'?




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Message 1172276 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 19:27:06 UTC

Boxing is not my cup of tea, either as a spectator or a competitor, but, if two people who know the risks, voluntarily get into the ring that's their business and nobody elses.

There are many things in this world I don't like but if someone else does, what business is it of mine ? Everybody has the right to go to hell in the manner of their own choosing.

With all due respect to Angela. I am sick of people demanding bans or restrictions on others for the simple reason they don't like the particular activity concerned.

If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's that simple.

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Message 1172285 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 20:15:20 UTC

Oddly enough, the family of my late father's best friend owned the 'pub' (Cohan's, in the film). I'm not sure if they still own it, but they also owned a 'pub' in Cheltenham that was full of horse-racing memorabilia....yes, they were an Irish family
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Wow, small world ...

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Message 1172305 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 20:57:23 UTC

I personally enjoy boxing quite a bit. It's a tie for my favorite sports (football being the other). I enjoy watching it. If two people wish to put on gloves and beat the hell out of one another for my entertainment, so be it. It's their lives and their choice.

Anyone who doesn't like it doesn't have to watch, it's that simple.

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