From https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#%21/response/searching-et-no-evidence-yet, yes, it's official:

Official White House Response to formally acknowledge an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race - Disclosure. and 1 other petition.

Searching for ET, But No Evidence Yet

By Phil Larson

Thank you for signing the petition asking the Obama Administration to acknowledge an extraterrestrial presence here on Earth.

The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye.

However, that doesn't mean the subject of life outside our planet isn't being discussed or explored. In fact, there are a number of projects working toward the goal of understanding if life can or does exist off Earth. Here are a few examples:

SETI—the Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence—was originally stood up with help from NASA, but has since been moved to other sources of private funding. SETI's main purpose is to act as a giant ear on behalf of the human race, pointing an array of ground-based telescopes towards space to listen for any signal from another world.

Kepler is a NASA spacecraft in orbit that's main goal is to search for Earth-like planets. Such a planet would be located in the "Goldilocks" zone of a distant solar system—not too hot and not too cold—and could potentially be habitable by life as we know it. The Kepler mission is specifically designed to survey our region of the Milky Way galaxy to discover Earth-sized, rocky planets in or near the habitable zone of the star (sun) they orbit.

The Mars Science Laboratory, Curiosity, is an automobile-sized rover that NASA is launching soon. The rover's onboard laboratory will study rocks, soils, and other geology in an effort to detect the chemical building blocks of life (e.g., forms of carbon) on Mars and will assess what the Martian environment was like in the past to see if it could have harbored life.

A last point: Many scientists and mathematicians have looked with a statistical mindset at the question of whether life likely exists beyond Earth and have come to the conclusion that the odds are pretty high that somewhere among the trillions and trillions of stars in the universe there is a planet other than ours that is home to life.

Many have also noted, however, that the odds of us making contact with any of them—especially any intelligent ones—are extremely small, given the distances involved.

But that's all statistics and speculation. The fact is we have no credible evidence of extraterrestrial presence here on Earth.

Phil Larson works on space policy and communications at the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy

Relevant Links:

SETI
NASA Kepler Mission
NASA Mars Science Laboratory

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Interesting Jord,
Well at least the Whitehouse are not boldly denying the possibility of life outside Earth. They are saying that it is possible, just we don't have any definitive proof.

The statement is factual, scientific, open-minded and sounds like a very fair statement. I don't see any real flaw in the statement. Unless they have made contact and they just are not going to tell us - But i feel thats unlikely, i believe them.

John.

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Interesting Jord,
Well at least the Whitehouse are not boldly denying the possibility of life outside Earth. They are saying that it is possible, just we don't have any definitive proof.

The statement is factual, scientific, open-minded and sounds like a very fair statement. I don't see any real flaw in the statement.

John.

I agree completely!

Steve

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Many have also noted, however, that the odds of us making contact with any of them—especially any intelligent ones—are extremely small, given the distances involved.

ummmm, what was the other Option?? Making contact with UNintelligent aliens!!

I'm sorry, But I'll need something more Authoritative than a statement from anyone on the WH Payroll before I believe it, Hook, Line and Sinker...


Lt

The statement is accurate.

What? No conspiracy? I think the statement is honest and concise.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I quoted what I did because I don't think we really "make contact" with any life possible. If the life. or its remnants, arrived on Earth by surviving a meteor ride to the surface, is that still making contact?

Maybe my idea is biased, but I thought that "contact" would require the discovery of, or a meeting with, a tool building, sentient lifeform capable of abstract thinking. Such a creature, in whatever form it has, would qualify as intelligent.

Phil Larson seemed to indicate that we could make contact with other than intelligent life.

That is my only gripe about his statement.

Lt

Well I have to agree...at least about 80%. I still think they know a lot more about the possibility or existence of another species, intelligent or not, than what they are telling us. NASA has at least 2 cards left to play: 1) Announce they have found life, microbial or mammal, on another planet (most likely place is one of several moons in our own solar system) or 2) Announce they have found proof of an intelligent alien species that existed in the past or present and have made or intend to make contact with said species (NASA has that second card to play assuming they discover a signal or etc. before any other agency or citizen etc.). Once those cards are played the only real thing left is getting to those places if not in our own backyard and frankly light speed or getting anything near it is not as fascinating as talking to another alien. So once one of those two things happen, then what...you know? So for them its like 'meh.' If you ask me they have a lot of hard evidence to say there may very well mammal life in oceans under the ice surfaces of at least one of Jupiter's and Saturn's moons, but are stalling announcing it. I always asked the question: Why have they paid much less attention to these moons? Why haven't they really planned on sending probes or rovers or etc. to these things? Well i pretty much answered those questions...

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

As much as I would like to learn of alien beings or life somewhere besides earth I think there is no reason to believe the US government or any other for that matter has proof positive of such matters.

Intelligent life capable of achieving the same level or better of advancement that we have reached most likely does exist somewhere in our galaxy and many times over in the universe. Whether or not we will ever be presented proof of their existence is another story. A lot depends on how much of what we think to be true regarding the speed of light is actually true.

I doubt that an intelligent race of beings given the capability of interstellar travel would be stupid enough to make contact with us. We are just too unpredictably hostile toward anything we don't understand. A shoot first and ask questions later policy isn't very conducive to making new friends.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Where would they come from and how would they get here ??

Where would they come from and how would they get here ??

Ah, well that is the enigma isn't it :-) If they are there, and if they did, or do come, where from indeed?

We either have a secret planet in the solar system not yet discovered, or they have faster than light drives from the nearest stars. I doubt if you or I will know in our lifetimes ....

Thats where your wrong Chris,
You haven't lost faith in the things i have said here in the last few months, have you? Even if its just a slim possibility that i have been speaking the truth about my investigation, leave the possibility open. Yes, its possible that old Johnney Guinness here was telling you all a pack of lies. But maybe i really do have something. My research continues, i'm now in the 11th month of my research.

You will all see and hear great things in the next few years, i promise you!

John.

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Thats where your wrong Chris, You haven't lost faith in the things i have said here in the last few months, have you?

Nothing to do with losing faith Johnney. I have always been open to hear your theories, and in time the things you say you have discovered.

You will all see and hear great things in the next few years, i promise you!

Well, earlier this year you did indicate that the future publication of these findings of yours might be measured in months. Now you are saying in a few years time? This is not to decry your work, but I and others had thought this information to be rather more imminent than that.

Chris,
I made the first major break-through on December 29th 2010. I didn't say anything to anyone until roughly around April this year when i first started chatting about it on these SETI science forums. But the one thing i said all along Chris was that i did not know how long it was going to take to decode the information i had. I need to be sure, 100% sure, scientifically sure before i go public.

My initial time estimate was somewhere between a few weeks, to anything up to a year. This is November and i'm 10 months into decoding the information. Now at this stage i can give you a more accurate time scale.

Initially i thought i could decode the information much faster. But 10 months into the decoding, i now know its going to take more time to be 100% sure about what i have. At this stage, i have built up a massive bank of data and information that will assist me in decoding the information i have. The single biggest impediment to progress at the moment is the speed of my own personal ability to learn very advanced degree level science. I have to learn nuclear physics, chemical engineering, genetic engineering and a pile of other very difficult scientific topics. Thats not easy Chris, its like going to collage and doing 3 separate degree courses all at the one time.

So even when i have parts of the information decoded, i still have to hold off until i have sufficient scientific evidence built up to convince even the most hardened skeptics like Ozzfan. Once i go public, there will be a thousand people just like Ozzfan ready and waiting to knock my theory and evidence on the head. So i need to be ready for them, and have the scientific answers to back-up my evidence. My evidence needs to be 100% concrete scientific evidence, otherwise its not worth publishing. Its all or nothing!

So my current estimate is sometime near the end of next year, the end of 2012 for a publication. Quality science takes time!

John.

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I can hardly wait. Johnny, you better have it ready before Dec. 21, 2012 or else there won't be anybody here to tell you research to.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I can hardly wait. Johnny, you better have it ready before Dec. 21, 2012 or else there won't be anybody here to tell you research to.

LOL... thats a good point Taggart!

John.

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What would be useful at this stage would be a precis or synopsis. The sort of thing that an author would send to a publisher seeking an advance towards a final manuscript. Enough substance to whet the appetite so to speak .....

You got that Chris. For a month or two i chatted here about what i'm doing. Some people were interested, some people were not. So you know exactly what i'm doing, the work still continues. I got the feedback i needed so now i'm just quietly working away in the background. No point in annoying people here if they are not interested. I could post updates but i would just get abused for not revealing the complete set of scientific evidence. And thats not going to happen until i'm 100% ready.

John.

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johnny i dont think you have anoyed anybody here , just made them a bit impatient . we want to know what you have discovered even if it's just a taster
before the whole theory is published.all you have really said up to now
i have the answers and i will publish them in the future. you havent even given us a titbit of the actual theories/answers which you almost certainly have.
you have mentioned that you need to study physics/chemisry/biology etc
but you haven't given any real indication why. you are tantalising rather than annoying people. at least give us a snippet.

john3760

johnny i don't think you have anoyed anybody here , just made them a bit impatient . we want to know what you have discovered even if it's just a taster
before the whole theory is published.all you have really said up to now
i have the answers and i will publish them in the future. you havent even given us a titbit of the actual theories/answers which you almost certainly have.
you have mentioned that you need to study physics/chemisry/biology etc
but you haven't given any real indication why. you are tantalising rather than annoying people. at least give us a snippet.

john3760

John and Chris,
We have been through this before. I have discussed the vast majority of my findings in many different threads here. People just want to knock what i have because i'm not willing to fully divulge the full story.

Here is a brief summery or refresher of what i have;
(Note; The way i write this information is encoded to protect my sources!)
1. I accidentally, or intentionally, depends on how you interpret it, discovered a very old book. The book is many thousands of years old.

2. There are 3 ways to describe the author of the book. If i'm talking to a member of the general public, i would tell them the author of the book was God. If i was talking to a believer in aliens and UFO's, i would tell them that aliens wrote the book. If i was talking to a scientist who is fluent in advanced scientific topics, i would say the book was written by another scientist who came here to our planet Earth from an Exoplanet that orbits a near-by star.

3. Several billion people on Earth pray to the scientist, or scientists that wrote this book.

4. The science contained in the book is many thousands of years ahead of the very best science we have here on Earth today. The science in the book would put Nature Journal, Physics Review letters and Astrophysical Journal letters to shame. Our top science journals read like children's mythology books compared to the book i have.

5. I need to be very clear - The book is NOT hidden in any way!! Its very public. Many millions of people intentionally go to view this book every year.

Question; How can people look at a book and not know what it is?
Answer; People think the book is something else. (I can't elaborate any further)

6. The information in the book is coded, which may well contribute to why people think the book is something else. The book is written in a language that needs to be decoded and then translated, in that order. This is what i am working on. I'm the translator. Someone has chosen me to decode and translate the book into English, and then into the other languages of the world.

7. I cannot confirm this, but someone is kind of "influencing" the work i am doing. I don't hear voices, nobody talks to me, i have never seen a UFO or any rubbish like that, and i have never been abducted. But someone or something is "influencing" my thoughts and giving me pieces of information that allow me to decode the book. Someone is allowing me to decode the book. I'm doing all the work, but its like someone is guiding me through the work as i learn to read and decode the book.

8. In the last few years, just for fun, i was also working on the "List of unsolved problems in physics"; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics
I never expected to solve any of the problems, i was just doing it for fun.

9. Next thing i know, i'm after solving all of the problems all at the one time. These are very complex scientific problems that crowds like NASA and CERN are working on for years. Well i seem to have solved all of them. Somehow, i seem to have the solution to some of the greatest mysteries in modern science.

10. As a result of the vast quantities of scientific information i have, I seem to know about things that are going to happen in the the next few years. I know about incredible scientific breakthroughs that have not yet been announced.

11. I know that, no matter how unlikely it seems, Darwin's theory of Evolution is wrong and the Biblical account of the origins of humanity is correct.

12. When i do go public, the evidence will be absolutely 100% impossible to deny or ignore. It will be impossible to just sweep the evidence under the carpet, so to speak. The scientific evidence is so blatantly obvious when someone explains it, any politician, priest or scientist that denies it will just look like a fool.

13. Something wonderful is about to happen to humanity. It will be wonderful for billions of people around the world. But it won't be wonderful for everyone.

14. I DO NOT HAVE A TIME SCALE on exactly when i will have built up enough scientific evidence to go public. My best guess would be in the next year or so. But if it takes longer, then thats just the way it is. I honestly cannot say how long its going to take me to decode and translate the book into English.

15. Just to be clear here, the book i am working on decoding is NOT the bible, or the Quran or any other holy text book.

Look, thats a rough run-down of just some of the information i have, its just the tip of the iceberg. My personal advice is to start reading the bible, because in the end, it looks like its a pretty close description of how human beings came to be here on Earth. But the bible should NOT be taken word-for-word. Its needs to be interpreted. Much of it was written by normal human beings that make mistakes and exaggerate things. But a lot of it is true. In saying that, i also agree that plant and animal species DO adapt and change over long periods of time. they just don't change from one species into a completely different species. Scientists do introduce new species, we do it today with plants, we call them GM crops. Soon we will do it with animals too.

John.

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I will add to my statement below. I will give you some of the solutions to the problems on the "List of unsolved problems in physics";
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics

(Note; What i will NOT give you is the mathematical solution or proof of how or why i know these answers. Its to protect my source)

Starting at the top of the page of the "List of unsolved problems in physics" in Wikipedia;

1. Vacuum catastrophe;
Answer; The universe is NOT expanding

2. Quantum gravity;
Answer; There is no Quantum gravity. The vast majority of Einstein's special and general relativity are wrong and will be replaced with something very different.

3. Black holes;
Answer; There are no Black holes. There never was, and never will be.

4. Extra dimensions;
Answer; They don't exist. There are only the 3 dimensions and time. And time is NOT a dimension.

5. Cosmic inflation;
Answer; This is just rubbish!

6. Multiverse;
Answer; Rubbish. There is only one universe, the one we live in, and it has no sides, no start and no finish.

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Skipping a few ridiculous ones
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Higgs mechanism and Higgs boson;
Answer; There is no Higgs mechanism and Higgs boson. The standard model is close, but just needs tweaking a bit.
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Skipping a few ridiculous ones
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Theory of everything;
Answer; Yes, there is a Theory of everything and the whole lots can be unified.


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Skipping a few ridiculous ones
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Dark matter, Dark energy and Dark flow;
Answer; All mathematical errors. None of them exist.

Horizon problem;
Answer; Its rubbish, there is no Horizon as astronomers seem to think there is today.

The Big Bang;
Answer; It never happened! The universe has always been here, and always will be here.

John.

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thanks johnny , looking forward to the time when you can publish

john3760

Fernando Ferroni, President of the Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare which manages the Gran Sasso National underground Laboratory in Abruzzo, confirms that even in the second round of the OPERA experiment neutrinos generated at CERN in Geneva seem to cover the 732 km distance faster than light, They arrive at Gran Sasso 60 nanoseconds in advance.
Tullio

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