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Message 1167852 - Posted: 4 Nov 2011, 21:55:36 UTC

Newspapers know that their readers love five minutes of spitting anger over breakfast, this should furnish plenty of fodder for them:

Court awards £17,000 to detained illegal immigrant

Sometimes i really worry about the future of this country!


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Message 1167857 - Posted: 4 Nov 2011, 22:05:55 UTC - in response to Message 1167852.  

Newspapers know that their readers love five minutes of spitting anger over breakfast, this should furnish plenty of fodder for them:

Court awards £17,000 to detained illegal immigrant

Sometimes i really worry about the future of this country!


I'm not too sure if it does have a future unless the way it's run
succumbs to radical change.


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Message 1167936 - Posted: 5 Nov 2011, 3:04:43 UTC

Welcome to the 21st Century. This type of thing has been going on in North America for a while. It has a purpose.

You need a country run by rules, and the rules need to apply to everyone, including illegal immigrants. There are countries where this doesn't work - you read about them in the news every day. You don't want to live in a country like that.

You break the rules, you pay. It doesn't matter if you are the government. Rules are rules. If you pay enough you start to learn this, and you stop breaking rules. Or, in a democracy, you can change the rules if you have to.

We are all better off in the long run, although it can be annoying in the short run. Just remember, the next time the government breaks the rules it might not be with an illegal immigrant. It might be you or me.



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Message 1167940 - Posted: 5 Nov 2011, 3:16:00 UTC - in response to Message 1167936.  
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Welcome to the 21st Century. This type of thing has been going on in North America for a while. It has a purpose.

You need a country run by rules, and the rules need to apply to everyone, including illegal immigrants. There are countries where this doesn't work - you read about them in the news every day. You don't want to live in a country like that.

You break the rules, you pay. It doesn't matter if you are the government. Rules are rules. If you pay enough you start to learn this, and you stop breaking rules. Or, in a democracy, you can change the rules if you have to.

We are all better off in the long run, although it can be annoying in the short run. Just remember, the next time the government breaks the rules it might not be with an illegal immigrant. It might be you or me.

I don't agree with you on this one, Bill.
The rules of a country are to govern those who are citizens of that country.
Separate laws apply to those who are in the country illegally, and should not offer the same protections, other than perhaps of life and limb. And of course, deportation.
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Message 1168180 - Posted: 5 Nov 2011, 12:21:42 UTC

This whole immigration does rather annoy me.

Even when they catch them, they release them pending a court appearance. Only to find they don't appear & have done a runner.

All because of the EU rules. We should be more like Australia & put them on the first plane out! Regardless of which direction its going.


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Message 1168276 - Posted: 5 Nov 2011, 17:48:14 UTC

Problem is the destination Country often won't accept them either ...

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Message 1168385 - Posted: 5 Nov 2011, 21:33:29 UTC

Perhaps a radical approach to solving this illegal immigrant situation
is what is required here. Once discovered to be illegals then put them
behind bars until their home country has been identified. Then send them
back home and if their home country wont accept them then they spend
the rest of their lives in jail. This method of handling them surely
will have a major impact on the illegals mind set when considering
entering the UK illegally in the future.


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Message 1168453 - Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 0:25:26 UTC - in response to Message 1167936.  

Good point Bill. Regardless of nationality, humans are humans, and whenever government starts stepping on humans it needs to be stopped. Like the old man said, “What do you do when the government starts stepping on you?”


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Message 1168548 - Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 4:55:40 UTC

No Human is Illegal

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Message 1168566 - Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 6:11:33 UTC - in response to Message 1168548.  

No Human is Illegal


That's correct, it's just some of their actions though that become illegal.
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Message 1168695 - Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 18:12:51 UTC

This is a difficult situation. We have so may Polish people here, will the last person to leave Poland please turn out the light.

I can quite understand why people living in any Eastern European country would want to come to the UK. There is simply no comparison with the lifestyles. The problem that we have is with this silly "Political Asylum" thing.

99% of all people applying for Political Asylum in the uk are nothing more than economic migrants looking for a better quality of life elsewhere. And you can't blame them either. Who would want to live in their godforsaken countries with their broken down economies and oppressive regimes?

But we in the UK can't afford to take in half of Europe.....

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Message 1168751 - Posted: 6 Nov 2011, 21:17:48 UTC
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Correction Chris ...

... half of North Africa and Northern Pakistan and Afghanistan and ...


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