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Message 1171596 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 6:58:56 UTC

Yep. Got a good many of those myself. Some so short they only lasted 20-30 seconds. But I guess it's something. Lmao

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Message 1171673 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 16:44:12 UTC - in response to Message 1170476.

The mix of shorties and normal WU is entirely down to what is on the tape, which is down to what the telescope was doing at the time, over which S@H has no control.

Are all these shorties from one tape or a series of consecutive tapes? If so, could the staff jump ahead a couple of weeks or a month and split a few normal tapes, then switch back and forth between the shorties and normals?

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Message 1171678 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 16:58:44 UTC - in response to Message 1171673.


Are all these shorties from one tape or a series of consecutive tapes? If so, could the staff jump ahead a couple of weeks or a month and split a few normal tapes, then switch back and forth between the shorties and normals?


Different tapes, and not consecutive either.


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Message 1171713 - Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 20:42:00 UTC

Shorties are still work.....no worries.
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Message 1171853 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 6:21:28 UTC - in response to Message 1171713.

Shorties are still work.....no worries.


Yep, They are great when you can download them faster than you cen process them.

Unfortunately I usually cannot.


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Message 1171867 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 9:38:25 UTC
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Is it possible to have the gaussian search included or implemented in the .vlar tasks?

What would typical run times be then for any such tasks?

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Message 1171869 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 9:50:23 UTC - in response to Message 1171867.


so many shorties ... so little bandwidth ... just can't get enough ....
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Message 1171873 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 10:03:15 UTC - in response to Message 1171867.

Is it possible to have the gaussian search included or implemented in the .vlar tasks?

Very short answer, No.


What would typical run times be then for any such tasks?

N/A

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Message 1171877 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 11:10:55 UTC - in response to Message 1171873.
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Thank you for the answer.

Another technical question: Is there a relationship between power, period and score for a pulse - and power, fit and score for a gaussian in a typical task?

Initially I am thinking that the pulse(s) and the gaussian(s) represent two different types or kinds of elements and are not necessarily part of the same thing.

A task that was paused because I got other tasks have the following to shop up:

Gaussian: power 1.11, fit 0.856, score -12.943 (apparently a running or background gaussian).

While waiting to run, it only shows the best pulse.

Best pulse power 9.40, period 3.2375, score 1.00.

Typically scores better than 0.50 are shown in the graphics, for these pulses power and period would have small values.

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Message 1171881 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 11:55:21 UTC - in response to Message 1171877.

And since when, exactly, is it possible to look at the graphics of a task that is not running?

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Message 1171884 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 12:11:16 UTC - in response to Message 1171881.
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That thing you should really know.

Boinc Manager starts up a task, regardless of whether the task has become or is being set to 'Waiting to run' or being 'Suspended' - as long as the 'Show graphics' button has been clicked in order to get up the graphics before that, the window for that task will stay open until it becomes closed. So it goes with my system, that is.

Not more difficult than that!

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Message 1171886 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 12:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 1171884.
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That thing you should really know.

Boinc Manager starts up a task, regardless of whether the task has become or is being set to 'Waiting to run' or being 'Suspended' - as long as the 'Show graphics' button has been clicked in order to get up the graphics before that, the window for that task will stay open until it becomes closed. So it goes with my system, that is.

Not more difficult than that!


I'm afraid, my graphics window closed when I suspended the task at the graphics of which I was looking. [non-SETI of course. optimised SETI apps don't have graphics]

edit: and before you start argueing, if apps are left in memory, the graphics window stays indeed open, but of course doesn't update any more.

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Message 1171887 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 12:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 1171886.
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In some instances, BOINC Manager in fact chooses to close a window when a task finishes up. It is as though at times it wants to show the user who really is in charge of things.

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Message 1171889 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 12:34:51 UTC - in response to Message 1171877.
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... shop up:

show up:

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Message 1172004 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 21:42:11 UTC - in response to Message 1171886.


I'm afraid, my graphics window closed when I suspended the task at the graphics of which I was looking. [non-SETI of course. optimised SETI apps don't have graphics]

edit: and before you start argueing, if apps are left in memory, the graphics window stays indeed open, but of course doesn't update any more.


Graphics ??
You mean boinc seti has graphics !!
Last time i saw a seti screen saver was years ago in clasic days :¬)

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Message 1172055 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 1:07:07 UTC - in response to Message 1172004.
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What version of the Boinc Manager are you using?

By the way, who is supposed to be cheating in this forum? Me, you, or someone else? If I told you what I know, you would not believe me at all.
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Message 1172057 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 1:10:12 UTC

By the way, who is supposed to be cheating in this forum? Me, you, or someone else. If I told you what I know, you would not believe me at all.


Any form of cheating should be serious. Try me .....

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Message 1172058 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 1:15:46 UTC - in response to Message 1172057.

Yes, sir!

I know you want to play with things. Hope you had fun doing these things.

And working hard on this one as well, of course.

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Message 1172069 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 2:08:43 UTC
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Shot in the blind, perhaps?

Anyway, in my Seti@home-MapView I got a couple of blank lines in between.

I make a check at the server, but already know that this typically means a spike count of 30.

In some instances, my own log shows this fact as well. I get a blank line where spike count is listed as 30. In that case, I check my local sah_spike.csv for the numbers being stored there.

Typically those numbers are similar to the average that shows up most of the time in those tasks which run for a longer time on my PC and which I can track by means of both BoincLogX as well as the included graphics (really!).

A couple of times these numbers could also become slightly higher, but definitely there is not that much going on right now.

But if spike count was 30, is it possible that the Arecibo Radio Telescope happened to be scanning that portion of the sky at a slightly wrong moment of time? What if the observation of that portion of the sky had been carried out slightly before or maybe later? Would possibly something more of interest perhaps have been detected in such instances and would that be any different than those numbers that are being produced in those mentioned tasks which are running at a longer time on my PC before finishing up?

Please explain.

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