Gripes and Kudos II

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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7467 Credit: 39,780,471 RAC: 33,174	Message 1183789 - Posted: 8 Jan 2012, 15:48:28 UTC
	We have lift-off: new tasks and validation of reported tasks. Kudos to whichever staff member prodded the system at first light on a Sunday morning.
	ID: 1183789 ·

Khangollo Send message Joined: 1 Aug 00 Posts: 240 Credit: 35,577,282 RAC: 74,548	Message 1183813 - Posted: 8 Jan 2012, 17:27:35 UTC
	Gripe; astropulse validation is fubar. Again. ____________
	ID: 1183813 ·

KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1596 Credit: 4,436,517 RAC: 3,944	Message 1191472 - Posted: 4 Feb 2012, 17:32:10 UTC
	Gripe: I'm getting WU's that there's no way I can complete before the deadline, because the deadline is only twelve minutes from when the WU was assigned - and with the current D/L situation, I haven't even downloaded it before the deadline! From my tasks list: 2299234075 925016823 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 2299234073 925016817 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 ____________ .
	ID: 1191472 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7467 Credit: 39,780,471 RAC: 33,174	Message 1191525 - Posted: 4 Feb 2012, 19:42:56 UTC - in response to Message 1191472.
	Gripe: I'm getting WU's that there's no way I can complete before the deadline, because the deadline is only twelve minutes from when the WU was assigned - and with the current D/L situation, I haven't even downloaded it before the deadline! From my tasks list: 2299234075 925016823 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 2299234073 925016817 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 Host 5375392 has a CUDA card, and both those tasks are VLAR. With the comms outage, they'll have been lost in transmission, considered for resend against a CUDA request, but rejected because VLAR on CUDA cause such a lousy user screen lag experience. We've covered this before.
	ID: 1191525 ·

KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1596 Credit: 4,436,517 RAC: 3,944	Message 1191765 - Posted: 5 Feb 2012, 16:45:43 UTC - in response to Message 1191525.
	Gripe: I'm getting WU's that there's no way I can complete before the deadline, because the deadline is only twelve minutes from when the WU was assigned - and with the current D/L situation, I haven't even downloaded it before the deadline! From my tasks list: 2299234075 925016823 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 2299234073 925016817 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 Host 5375392 has a CUDA card, and both those tasks are VLAR. With the comms outage, they'll have been lost in transmission, considered for resend against a CUDA request, but rejected because VLAR on CUDA cause such a lousy user screen lag experience. We've covered this before. Yes, this computer has a CUDA card (a Fermi, GT430 to be precise) but, as I read those two tasks, they are CPU tasks, not CUDA... CUDA on that machine is usually dedicated to MilkyWay, anyway... I've missed any discussion of possible reasons for this, and it isn't the first time I noticed this behavior. ____________ .
	ID: 1191765 ·

Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 3932 Credit: 934,327 RAC: 15	Message 1191804 - Posted: 5 Feb 2012, 22:10:35 UTC - in response to Message 1191765.
	Gripe: I'm getting WU's that there's no way I can complete before the deadline, because the deadline is only twelve minutes from when the WU was assigned - and with the current D/L situation, I haven't even downloaded it before the deadline! From my tasks list: 2299234075 925016823 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 2299234073 925016817 5375392 4 Feb 2012 \| 16:50:10 UTC 4 Feb 2012 \| 17:02:11 UTC Timed out - no response 0.00 0.00 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03 Host 5375392 has a CUDA card, and both those tasks are VLAR. With the comms outage, they'll have been lost in transmission, considered for resend against a CUDA request, but rejected because VLAR on CUDA cause such a lousy user screen lag experience. We've covered this before. Yes, this computer has a CUDA card (a Fermi, GT430 to be precise) but, as I read those two tasks, they are CPU tasks, not CUDA... CUDA on that machine is usually dedicated to MilkyWay, anyway... I've missed any discussion of possible reasons for this, and it isn't the first time I noticed this behavior. See the Impossible Deadline thread for a thorough discussion, Richard's wrapup post is near the end. Gripe: there's no actual FAQ on these boards. Joe
	ID: 1191804 ·

LadyL Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Sep 11 Posts: 1679 Credit: 5,230,097 RAC: 14	Message 1195496 - Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 9:00:47 UTC
	Gripe: Beta is down together with Main. Kudos: We were informed what the problem is.
	ID: 1195496 ·

gregk Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Aug 04 Posts: 53 Credit: 387,433 RAC: 0	Message 1199200 - Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 13:00:47 UTC Last modified: 24 Feb 2012, 13:39:11 UTC
	why dont the workunits download right away. on my computer they take forever. some to download but there it sits dry waiting. not worth my time this project is the worst managed in history!
	ID: 1199200 ·

doug Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 10 Jul 09 Posts: 188 Credit: 7,063,733 RAC: 11,419	Message 1199659 - Posted: 25 Feb 2012, 14:39:17 UTC
	Kudos: To the folks at Lunatics. I crunch Astropulses on a Pentium 4 which used to take 130+ hours (if they didn't error out) in ~40 hours now. I used to avoid AP tasks, now I simply accept them. Gripe: Why does my Pentium 4 get so many AP tasks while my i7 w/ATI gpu gets so few? I wish there was a way to transfer the tasks so I could balance things out.
	ID: 1199659 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1502 Credit: 62,958,836 RAC: 89,112	Message 1199874 - Posted: 26 Feb 2012, 2:35:33 UTC - in response to Message 1199872.
	Gripes: People who won't read the first post of this thread to see what this really about and make un-related posts. :( Kudos: To the guys for the good work in keeping the project up and running well this weekend (a shame about the limits still though). ____________
	ID: 1199874 ·

Bob-52 The White Lion Send message Joined: 14 Feb 08 Posts: 1 Credit: 3,644,572 RAC: 5,272	Message 1200289 - Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 8:48:12 UTC Last modified: 27 Feb 2012, 8:53:28 UTC
	My $.02 worth … YOUR volunteering your computer services. NO body twisted your arms into joining ! I see an awful lot of whining and complaining about mechanical outages that the good people at Seti have no control over. I remember when I started volunteering my computer services way back, long before “ BOINC “ was used to crunch numbers. I had a small crunching farm and was cranking out the work. Then Seti had the good fortune to change the program over to BOINC and over night, all of my equipment was obsolete. I then made a physical move, and in the process lost my password and login due to an equipment failure. I was out of the program for a few years after that. I was able to rejoin the Seti project some years later but had to start all over from the beginning with all new ( recycled ) equipment. Six years of number crunching LOST ! … Six years of credits LOST ! SO WHAT ! … I didn’t go complaining to the Seti project about my loss. Haven’t you spoiled children got anything better to do then complain ? My compliments to the people at Seti who work very hard to keep everything running as best they can ! ____________ The Universe is full of Magical Things ... Patiently waiting for our Wits to grow Sharper!
	ID: 1200289 ·

Meteor Wayne Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 10 Credit: 468,458 RAC: 480	Message 1200833 - Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 4:50:05 UTC
	Amen, Bob-52. I help because I can for the science; sure the crunch numbers are cool, but that's not my motivation. It's the science. Matt and the other folks bust their tails, and as for the whiners, well, they're whiners, don't bother to understand the challenges involved in an underfunded, undersupplied, and understaffed useful project. There should be a $50 fee for whining, S@H could use the extra funding well. :) ____________
	ID: 1200833 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34289 Credit: 346,110,494 RAC: 554,138	Message 1200885 - Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 7:39:55 UTC
	Gripes....not many, maybe just that the cache limits have not been raised yet to allow the kitties extended crunching when server problems do arise. Kudos.....many. The Seti staff has been doing a wonderful job in the face of some database and hardware problems. Keep it up guys, and thank you for your dedication to the project. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1200885 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1070 Credit: 2,016,050 RAC: 2,652	Message 1210517 - Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 23:05:04 UTC
	Kudos, the installation of lunatics V 40 went well with out drama and I set my preferences to allow AP v6.01. Gripes, the AP splitters are not running. ____________
	ID: 1210517 ·

Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,162,259 RAC: 865	Message 1210572 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 3:03:35 UTC - in response to Message 1175845.
	Gripe: (probably covered in some older thread) The version of Boinc on my newest computer (6.12.34) has a Notices tab I don't care about instead of a Messages tab I do care about -- a lot. Kudos to this guy. For a good point. I run several versions of Boinc, and I prefer the older one with the live messages tab. this "notices" thing seems worthless to me. Gripe: whoever changed it. :-) j/k. kinda.
	ID: 1210572 ·

Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,162,259 RAC: 865	Message 1210574 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 3:08:03 UTC - in response to Message 1180874.
	Gripe: This project will most likely never find anything even resembling an ET signal with the methodologies being employed. Kudos: The fact that we're still trying given the limited tools at our disposal. Merry Christmas all Gripe: this guy doesn't know about astropulse. Another Gripe: Why am I not getting more astropulse units and less seti units. :-) Kudos: astropulse
	ID: 1210574 ·

Cheopis Send message Joined: 17 Sep 00 Posts: 126 Credit: 6,790,456 RAC: 8,852	Message 1210586 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 4:26:11 UTC
	Gripe: People who complain about shoestring budget science having shoestring budget problems Kudos: Shoestring budget scientists who keep shoestring budget science happening.
	ID: 1210586 ·

JLConawayII Send message Joined: 2 Apr 02 Posts: 181 Credit: 2,632,384 RAC: 373	Message 1210587 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 4:41:58 UTC - in response to Message 1210574.
	Gripe: This project will most likely never find anything even resembling an ET signal with the methodologies being employed. Kudos: The fact that we're still trying given the limited tools at our disposal. Merry Christmas all Gripe: this guy doesn't know about astropulse. Another Gripe: Why am I not getting more astropulse units and less seti units. :-) Kudos: astropulse Astropulse is good, it's definitely a step in the right direction. ____________
	ID: 1210587 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34289 Credit: 346,110,494 RAC: 554,138	Message 1210605 - Posted: 27 Mar 2012, 6:34:10 UTC Last modified: 27 Mar 2012, 6:35:01 UTC
	Gripe.... Those of us (occasionally myself included) that sometimes show a little less patience than is required for participation in this wonderful project. Kudos.... To all those in the optimizing camp, and folks like LadyL, Richard Haselgrove, Joe Segur, and Jason Gee...who spend many hours of their time helping others and making Seti a better place to crunch. And of course, the boyz in da lab. (Sorry, but I can't possibly list everybody who contribute so very much). Thank you all for helping to make this a great project to be associated with. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1210605 ·

Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,162,259 RAC: 865	Message 1210808 - Posted: 28 Mar 2012, 0:59:14 UTC
	Gripe: nothing negative today. Kudos: To everyone involved in this project. As a child I remember reading and watching anything I could find that had to do with S.E.T.I. I vaguely remember the project being endangered and even shutdown? at a few points in history. As an adult, it's truly a great feeling to be able to contribute to the modern version of the project with my very own machines. I think I'm going to like it here, and I think I'm going to stay awhile. So THANKS to everyone who makes it happen. The project scientists, the crunchers (that's us), the donors, the forum mods, everyone, thanks! -Dave
	ID: 1210808 ·

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