Gripes and Kudos II

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WezH Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 67 Credit: 2,173,541 RAC: 3,586	Message 1311426 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 19:49:46 UTC
	Kudos: All the work You@lab are doing to keep Seti@Home running. Gripe: Lack of information what is happening in Seti@Home lab. Forums unavailable etc...
	ID: 1311426 ·

Kent Send message Joined: 6 Jul 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 28,132,020 RAC: 7,145	Message 1311445 - Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 20:04:59 UTC
	After 27+million credits since July 1999, I have decided to end work on SETI@home. Seeing other projects (Docking@home, Eistein@home, LHC@home 1.0, Milkyway@home, rosetta@home, The Lattice Project, and World Community Grid) work efficiently & seamlessly, and realizing the effort I need to maintain work on SETI@home, led me this decision. Good luck to SETI and all crunchers. Goodbye. ____________
	ID: 1311445 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34151 Credit: 344,376,717 RAC: 543,459	Message 1315059 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 11:02:36 UTC Last modified: 14 Dec 2012, 11:03:06 UTC
	I, for one, choose to forever try to participate in this project in the biggest way I can. It is sometimes limited by my hardware, sometimes by the Seti servers. But, it is my quest. OUR quest. Given the small budget available, and the remarkable number of folks wanting to participate in a big way, and the computing power of hosts increasing every day, it is no wonder that that project cannot seem to build itself up enough, fast enough, to keep up. The kitties will continue to bite and scratch for every single byte of Seti data that they can process and return home. When it is not enough to keep their kibble bowls full, they shall wander off in search of a few other crunchables......... But every moment, returning to home to see if there might be just one more Seti WU to be had. It is my quest. OUR quest. Meow. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1315059 ·

Alien_Finder Send message Joined: 30 Nov 08 Posts: 3 Credit: 675,794 RAC: 366	Message 1323424 - Posted: 2 Jan 2013, 1:08:48 UTC
	My computers have had no communication with SETI since yesterday. I have 14 units queued up (completed) but there are no units uploading or downloading. I have hit 'Update Project' numerous times. What can I do to get things moving again?
	ID: 1323424 ·

Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 3901 Credit: 359,641 RAC: 823	Message 1323433 - Posted: 2 Jan 2013, 1:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 1323424. Last modified: 2 Jan 2013, 1:28:52 UTC
	My computers have had no communication with SETI since yesterday. I have 14 units queued up (completed) but there are no units uploading or downloading. I have hit 'Update Project' numerous times. What can I do to get things moving again? Nothing, just be patient. Monitor the Cricket Graphs. The servers crashed at about 1850 local time Monday night. Someone was in the lab Tuesday around noon trying to get things restarted, but it isn't back up yet. ____________ Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired
	ID: 1323433 ·

Alien_Finder Send message Joined: 30 Nov 08 Posts: 3 Credit: 675,794 RAC: 366	Message 1323449 - Posted: 2 Jan 2013, 2:38:50 UTC - in response to Message 1323433.
	Thanks for the response!
	ID: 1323449 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10324 Credit: 5,092,129 RAC: 6,429	Message 1326232 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 23:38:58 UTC
	Gripe: People who say no one cares when things go south. Kudos: getting anything to work on the shoestring budget. ____________
	ID: 1326232 ·

Bernie Vine Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 5681 Credit: 14,288,210 RAC: 51,600	Message 1326320 - Posted: 10 Jan 2013, 9:44:31 UTC - in response to Message 1326232.
	Gripe: People who say no one cares when things go south. Kudos: getting anything to work on the shoestring budget. +1 ____________
	ID: 1326320 ·

N9JFE Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 2528 Credit: 8,427,132 RAC: 14,676	Message 1328413 - Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 21:02:35 UTC
	Gripe: that the connection is oversaturated again. Kudos: to whoever did the A/C work for getting it done faster than we expected. ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.
	ID: 1328413 ·

GALAXY-VOYAGER Send message Joined: 21 Oct 12 Posts: 69 Credit: 56,454 RAC: 376	Message 1328521 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 4:06:55 UTC - in response to Message 1166684. Last modified: 18 Jan 2013, 4:09:08 UTC
	Gripe Related: Gripes should be Relayed as Personal Messages ... NOT Broadcast in Public to Dishearten Others ..... Moral oo Comment is ... "If You Can't Stand The Heat, Stay Out Of The Kitchen". Kudo: The Above Quote is not meant to Personally Attack Anyone. ____________ GALAXY-VOYAGER
	ID: 1328521 ·

N9JFE Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 2528 Credit: 8,427,132 RAC: 14,676	Message 1328643 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 14:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 1328521.
	Gripe Related: Gripes should be Relayed as Personal Messages ... NOT Broadcast in Public to Dishearten Others ..... Moral oo Comment is ... "If You Can't Stand The Heat, Stay Out Of The Kitchen". Kudo: The Above Quote is not meant to Personally Attack Anyone. If it's a personal gripe, you're right, but most or all of what is posted here is general gripes that aren't personal or even nasty. And we always give the gripe first so the kudo will negate any disheartening effect. Kudos to whoever thought of that! ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.
	ID: 1328643 ·

ravens Send message Joined: 10 Aug 03 Posts: 7 Credit: 75,659 RAC: 609	Message 1328649 - Posted: 18 Jan 2013, 14:51:14 UTC
	Gripe: Downloads at times can be excrutiating slow, only a few kbps for an 8M file. Kudos: System eventually admits that has failed, and often does better next time. ____________
	ID: 1328649 ·

Omega Man Send message Joined: 28 Dec 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,355,195 RAC: 923	Message 1329130 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 16:09:49 UTC
	I just have a gripe. I love doing SETI, but unless i start getting some SUCCESSFUL downloads, I may have to remove it.
	ID: 1329130 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3363 Credit: 25,950,143 RAC: 1,098	Message 1329132 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 16:26:27 UTC - in response to Message 1329130.
	I just have a gripe. I love doing SETI, but unless i start getting some SUCCESSFUL downloads, I may have to remove it. All your errored tasks are because you haven't got the seti_603.jpg or ap_601.jpg files successfully, are you on a mobile connection where picture files are compressed? <core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> app_version download error: couldn't get input files: <file_xfer_error> <file_name>seti_603.jpg</file_name> <error_code>-200</error_code> </file_xfer_error> </message> ]]> If you want to try different Browsers, download manager, etc to try and get the files the urls are: http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/seti_603.jpg 9,068 bytes http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/ap_601.jpg 7,653 bytes Once you're got the files drop them in your setiathome project folder, for Windows 7 (and probably Win 8) the default location is: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu Claggy
	ID: 1329132 ·

space plowboy Send message Joined: 25 May 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 104,681 RAC: 263	Message 1333728 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 1:00:14 UTC
	Between "Not sending work - last request too recent: 45 sec" and "Not reporting or requesting tasks" a programmer could feel pretty smug looking down on whoever programs these poor decisions. A basic tenet in the art of programming is to discern the needs of the user instead of concocting them. When I as a user, (as oppsed to the usual I as a programmer) have the bandwidth/compute time resources to issue a request for tasks, it is annoying as someone desiring to further the general progress of the SETI program to encounter these little joy-rides of the programmer on the user. I am the decider; I know what is available, not an armchair programmer (no offense, I work). There should obviously be a button for Do It Now, if the algorithm is this flawed. ____________
	ID: 1333728 ·

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5059 Credit: 40,883,091 RAC: 52,924	Message 1333732 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 1:15:46 UTC - in response to Message 1333728. Last modified: 2 Feb 2013, 1:18:04 UTC
	Between "Not sending work - last request too recent: 45 sec" and "Not reporting or requesting tasks" a programmer could feel pretty smug looking down on whoever programs these poor decisions. As a programmer you should actually be able to appeciate why such things need to happen. Not having a backoff period bewteen requsts would allow people to write a script to hammer the servers continuously, denying others a chance to contact them. The fact that there is a minimum period between connections means there is no point in someone attempting it. And "Not reporting or requsting taks" is an informative mesage- it indicates just what it says- it's neither reporting or requsting new work, indicating that hitting the retry button that time wasn't really worth the effort. A basic tenet in the art of programming is to discern the needs of the user instead of concocting them. A basic tenet in the art of programming is to know the limits of your hardware, and then to do what you can within those limits. Ignoring those limits doesn't make them go away. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
	ID: 1333732 ·

Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,158,983 RAC: 803	Message 1333824 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 4:57:34 UTC - in response to Message 1333728.
	Between "Not sending work - last request too recent: 45 sec" and "Not reporting or requesting tasks" a programmer could feel pretty smug looking down on whoever programs these poor decisions. A basic tenet in the art of programming is to discern the needs of the user instead of concocting them. When I as a user, (as oppsed to the usual I as a programmer) have the bandwidth/compute time resources to issue a request for tasks, it is annoying as someone desiring to further the general progress of the SETI program to encounter these little joy-rides of the programmer on the user. I am the decider; I know what is available, not an armchair programmer (no offense, I work). There should obviously be a button for Do It Now, if the algorithm is this flawed. Huge Gripe: This post. The purpose of Boinc and this project is for YOU to help them, not the other way around. Kudos, to D.A., Eric K, Matt, and everyone else for the hard work these people do! ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
	ID: 1333824 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10324 Credit: 5,092,129 RAC: 6,429	Message 1334179 - Posted: 3 Feb 2013, 5:30:59 UTC
	Gripe: People who bitch post as Mr. Know it All. Kudos: People who realize they have to serve requests in a first come first served order and keep the volume of requests down so all the traffic bandwidth isn't tied up with questions "is my download ready yet." ____________
	ID: 1334179 ·

SonicAgamemnon Send message Joined: 8 Apr 06 Posts: 22 Credit: 7,070,740 RAC: 117,882	Message 1341062 - Posted: 26 Feb 2013, 16:22:14 UTC - in response to Message 1333732.
	And "Not reporting or requsting taks" is an informative mesage- it indicates just what it says- it's neither reporting or requsting new work, indicating that hitting the retry button that time wasn't really worth the effort. Part of the "annoyance" factor involved here is the utter uselessness of enabling a retry button that really isn't going to retry anything at all. Perhaps the level of frustration would drop if such buttons were disabled when the feature behind it is not available? It seems like a logical pattern to follow, but I guess the amount of programming involved is too great... ____________ "History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there." - Santayana
	ID: 1341062 ·

Tom Send message Joined: 12 Aug 11 Posts: 82 Credit: 3,736,642 RAC: 37,538	Message 1341098 - Posted: 26 Feb 2013, 22:25:17 UTC Last modified: 26 Feb 2013, 22:29:44 UTC
	Kudos to Matt for decreasing the load on Synergy. Transitioner now is Vader and when Transitioner was Synergy either shorties and or AP's would delay the schedular so much I would timeout using my Proxy. Now I can keep the Proxy on for both Schedular and Download. It works even after a Tuesday outage with large numbers of GPU shorties and Ap's I can reliably contact the schedular using my Proxy Thank you Matt All we need now is our own Proxy at the bottom of the hill.
	ID: 1341098 ·

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