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Message 1164881 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 2:05:08 UTC - in response to Message 1164861.  

LOL Well I guess it's obvious that I've never used BOINCLogX before! :-D
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Message 1164999 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 11:13:30 UTC
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At least what I wrote here was read.

I have a question for you today.

I know there are quite a number of good scientists around here.

Therefore I have a question for you which I wish an answer to.

Physicists try to explain the laws of physics by means of mathematical laws.

We know that there are fundamental laws of physics governing the structure of the universe as well as our own way of living.

Rather going down or delving into the details, is it possible to put these laws up in a summary showing up which one we think they are and what their names are?

As I am seeing it, we live in a three-dimensional space. In fact we think of a bit of sugar or maybe a dice as being a cube of shape, having three dimensions.

A planet or moon is not that. What may you call it then? A globe?

The force of gravity keeps everything together if it can, unless something invisible is moving everything apart (called "inflation").

"Inflation" is being thought of as a result of the "Big Bang". Is there some divine or divinity coming out of this. Should we believe in (a) God or some other creator of space and time?

There are the Electromagnetic force, the Weak force and the Strong force. Three different forces in total here.

Also we are having Time. Time maybe could go both backwards as well as the more usual forwards.

In strong gravitational fields, both time and space is seen to be warping.

Also black holes may seem to exist in space, also we are possibly having worm holes in space as well and possibly also time travel may be possible.

Since gravity is what appear to be keeping it all together, maybe we are speaking of three kinds or sets of physical laws relating in some way to each other?

Can someone put this up in context witout delving into the details of mathematics which is not my best subject (physics is not my best understanding as well)?

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Message 1165005 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 12:13:53 UTC

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I can answer all your questions with two words ---> Google it!

Start reading pages from wikipedia and you will learn a lot.

Start here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything

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Message 1165074 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 17:44:50 UTC
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Thanks for that link, John!

I read through that stuff and surely will return back to it later as well.

Right now I was again wandering a little bit about so-called 'narrow band signals'.

If such signals were ever detected or assumed as coming from outer space, they would be assumed to be possibly intelligent in origin.

From the Signal Candidate List found right here, I am able to see that such candidates are picked from returned pulses, gaussians and triplets.

Are then all signal candidates (possibly gaussian candidates) narrow band signals? If a pulse, triplet or something else was derived or deduced to be a signal candidate, would that type of signal be regarded as being a narrow band signal as well?

For the best gaussian candidate, SHGB11+15a (http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/Candidates/index.html),
there exist a signal profile for it by means of its power and fit (chi square).

I guess a returned gaussian from a Seti@home task with a score of about 6 or a little higher may not resemble the signal curve obtained from a signal candiate like SHGB11+15a. Is this correct?

Please explain this to me.

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Message 1165079 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 18:31:42 UTC - in response to Message 1165074.  

Knut why are you here? Is it the voices in your head that make you think anyone wants to read your nonsense. Please stalk elsewhere


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Message 1165118 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 20:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 1165079.  
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Hi Skildude!

Nice to see you again. We haven't been talking for a while.

I can tell you that my main account being used here passed 900,000 in (total) credit today. Add 921 to be exact.

With another account with a credit of 658,350 as well as this one having a credit of 147,773 plus also another account that is not in use anymore but with a credit of 113,553 makes me think I will be reaching 2 million in credit not to long from now. Sadly, I only got to 486 'Classic' ones. Apparently I missed the 500 mark.

Remember I mentioned the Classic web-pages previously. It makes me think about ufomind (I think that will be http://www.ufomind.com) which also had its web-pages frozen a long time ago. But still there is much to be found there.

And a quick check of this page makes me think they in fact have got it up again.

Do you think the WOW signal was 'intelligent' in nature? Apparently there were no numbers coming out from or back from it.

But still it was characterized as a strong narrowband signal. Why so?

What is the difference (or similarity) between a wave and a gaussian?

In some cases we do have .wav files as well as 'sinusoidal' waves, whatever that is. I will need to Google that as previously suggested by Johnney Guinness.

Do you think a message possible message could be read as well as being interpreted by means of the pulses, spikes and triplets coming or going all the time, or is possible intelligence in a signal interpreted by means of its corresponding gaussian factor?

Hopefully you may have an answer to this question for me.

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Message 1165127 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 21:33:50 UTC
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This memory just came back to me and need a posting of its own.

Remember the movie 'Close Encounters of the third kind'?

Apparently it was a re-make or finish of this movie which made it even better.

There were a little melody in that movie. Five tones. I am sure many people remember those five tones. They chose to play it for a visiting space ship up into the mountains. The space ship answered the melody in a deeper fashion breaking the windows in one of the watch towers.

Anyway, I initially put up the title of the movie as E.T. But that is another story.

Surely, it is so easy to get it everything wrong!
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Message 1166740 - Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 17:27:16 UTC - in response to Message 1165127.  

just got back after a little break and read this thread
well bob do you think they "got back to discussing seti science" or not?
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Message 1172626 - Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 2:49:56 UTC - in response to Message 1163136.  

I agree, all the UFO's and aliens building pyramids discussions is what i think can be called, bad astronomy; SETI is about astronomy, physics.
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Message 1172816 - Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 22:01:08 UTC
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Why not try making science out of just everything, both the good as well as the bad things?

Maybe there is an scientific explanation for both your toilet visit as well as bad economic times?

And speaking of Angels...
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Message 1172819 - Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 22:11:00 UTC - in response to Message 1165127.  

They sounded to me like the opening notes of "When You Wish Upon a Star".
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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.
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Message 1172820 - Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 22:12:43 UTC - in response to Message 1166740.  

just got back after a little break and read this thread
well bob do you think they "got back to discussing seti science" or not?

It's hard to say but I think yes.
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Message 1172832 - Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 22:48:55 UTC - in response to Message 1172820.  

yeah seti science is different for everybody,but when you think about it we are all helping to look for aliens and at seti at home most people if not everybody here believes they are out there that is why we do it.try telling that to the next person you meet in a pub i do and some people say oooh ive always been interested in stuff ike that how can i get involved and others just think you are completely mad and walk away from you.
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Message 1172833 - Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 23:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 1166740.  
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Where was I in my thinking? Should I try going back a little in order to better understand a couple of things?

If we ever had visitors (someone passing by in outer space and catching mother Earth), would not such visitors notice our buildings as well as other construction work made by us?

The Earth is mainly made up of two things (or said to be having two major components): Its water mass and its land mass. From space these two components show up in at least two difficult colors.

But do these two things show the inhabitants of mother Earth, everything from bacteria and viruses through dolphins and human beings?

Where does intelligence come in this picture? Just thinking as well as dreams?
Some species have the ability to speak as well.

Speaking of a person. He just says 'I have a plan for this one thing as well as the other thing.' Maybe he is able to carry out his plan as well.

If some people are not satisfied, it would be called 'Chaos'. It ultimately leads to another 'Theory'.
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Message 1172857 - Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 0:20:18 UTC - in response to Message 1163136.  

Did I screw it up?

Alright, I shall be taking he time at reading through the whole thread.
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Message 1172864 - Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 0:46:06 UTC - in response to Message 1172857.  

start with the title and work your way down
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Message 1172869 - Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 0:54:32 UTC - in response to Message 1172864.  

Isn't Seti@home all about science then?

In which way can you distinguish between facts and everything else that also might be there?
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