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The Prime minister will announce today that the top 4 UK ISP's, will force their customers to specify if they want to view expicit sites. Those who do not opt in, will have no access to internet porn. This is being done basically to protect children from inappropriate images and content. | |
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In Portugal there are basically no restriction to Access the internet, in fact the government can’t force no one to describe what sites they want to watch as it will violate the constitution in the principle of personal privacy. | |
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Any country that has sexual censorship will eventually have political censorship. — Kenneth Tynan. | |
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Every while they catch huge pedophile rings which now even more getting internationally organized and more spreading throughout eu and americas well asia too. | |
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I guess everywhere humans are descending too animal state thanks to IT technology. Or the more connected world means that one hears the stories more often. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... | |
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I guess everywhere humans are descending too animal state thanks to IT technology. Well, it just means everyone has opened the front door via the internet wire to every crook, not just the local ones. ____________ | |
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I guess everywhere humans are descending too animal state thanks to IT technology. That means everyones kids are at risk for all kinds of crooks plus rabbais, priests and monks too. So UK approach is even more rightful or little late measure. ____________ Mandtugai! | |
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To respond to your question about the United States, we have freedom of speech BUT child porn will get you arrested. Soft porn such as what you might find in Play Boy is allowed. I can't tell you exactly where the line is because I suspect sometimes the government is not sure where the line is. | |
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Regarding the topic of child abuse, the Catholic Church as a huge debt to society, as during decades the Vatican had protected abusers and silenced the victims. | |
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In the UK child or kiddie porn is also an arrestable offence. Magazines like Playboy are allowed but are classifed as "top shelf" and I believe that there are laws being considered to remove them from public display as well. The problem is with the grey area in the middle of the Adult hard core stuff. | |
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It would be an easy matter for ISP's to keep two lists of customers who have opted in or out. What happens if the opt-in list gets compromised and the details get known or published? Knowing people as we know, these lists will be published sooner or later or distributed trough several entities without common knowledge, and one thing is sure no one likes to have a finger point it at him as “pervert”; “porn viewer”; “freak”. Society is an expert in putting labels in to people, and I would not like to live in a society where in a job application I could be excluded just because my name would be in a list held by my employer as a porn viewer. But in one thing I think we all agree in this forum children should be protected from Pornography and other types of information until they are old enough to understand what is behind. | |
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and I would not like to live in a society where in a job application I could be excluded just because my name would be in a list held by my employer as a porn viewer. Ok I hear what you say. But would you not agree that parents of young children of school age, would want to be assured that anyone who teaches them or has contact with them in after school group activities, is not a porn viewer. I think I would. It depends upon which side of the fence you are on. I can see many employers finding it relevant whether their employees are regular porn viewers. But don't let's digress here into whether porn is harmful or not. The subject matter at hand is, should porn be censured in the manner proposed, and what pros and cons are there? | |
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I'd say buddhist monks are at neck and neck race with catholic priests for abusing kids or even worse state since that type of legal protection standard is far lower in asia wide than eu. | |
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Ok Orgil, that may or may not be a legitimate point of view, I do not know. But what would your view be if the Mongolian ISP's decided to follow a similiar opt-in policy in your country? | |
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Well britain was over for a millenium in catholic or protestant and you know some dirts in that area but mongolia was for 3 centuries buddhist country so I know some dirts in my area. So buddhist monks are not that clean as you've learnt from your close by fresh kind of buddhist practices. Expect that actual asian buddhism has tons of dirts not much better than european religious situations and crimes. | |
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Ok I hear what you say. But would you not agree that parents of young children of school age, would want to be assured that anyone who teaches them or has contact with them in after school group activities, is not a porn viewer. I think I would. As a parent and if I new that the teacher of my child was a pron viwer, I would be concerned, but the question is if anyone as the right to know about other people's habbits? Can a teacher that watch porn should be considered a bad teacher just for from time to time watching some sites, or movies or whatever, if he keeps it only in is private sphere of live. Like I wrote before acess to porn should be limited to people that are major of age, and legislation about accessing to porn should exist and in many coutries already exists. Nevertheless i don't agree about creating a government database about porn viwers or to any matter of your private life. I think a dangerous door is being open as what would be next? a database for people who drink alchool? Smokers? people who are HIV positive. We should not forget that descrimination based on moral is very easy to do, and usually we only look in to other's people flaws and not our owns. I think that most of the members of this forum already watched some porn, and that does not make them worse as humans, or their moral worse, it just shows that we are all human. We are all adults here and we know how to differentiate things and situations, and we all agree that for example porn does not have a place in a school or in other places. Some couples like to watch it together, some like to watch it alone, some people don’t even like porn, but at the end of the day they are all valid conscientious and good persons. Regarding child abuse, and other sexual offenses, they are crimes punished in almost every country, but here we are talking about normal porn. To summarize and to get back to the topic, governments should not have any databases related with what their citizens like to do in private as long it’s a legal activity, porn included. Moral changes from person to person, and in societies like ours is so easy to make personal judgments and have prejudices against your fellow human, that at the end is just like you and me. For me what is worse than moral is hypocrisy, and such type of control is hypocrit and therefore i'm strongly against it, as it cross a dangerous line. | |
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In Mongolia off course we highly support tightening of internet traffic rules especially porn. Since just before 1990 we were nearly same as current north korean tight communist regime. From this year mongolian parlament is preparing on new tight rule laws to follow suit of eu situation and usa situations. Ok, thanks for that information, I didn't know that and it is interesting to hear. | |
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The question here is not just about porn. Before I.T became mainstream, you had plenty of this......... | |
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With all these databases in existence, how long before one is denied Internet access due to viewing the wrong site....... If we go deeper, how long until someone get a job or a passport denied by viewing the wrong site or just by being different? | |
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With all these databases in existence, how long before one is denied Internet access due to viewing the wrong site....... exactly! ____________ | |
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