Occupy Wall Street

Never underestimate the power of the masses when they are pissed off.

Never underestimate the power of the masses when they are pissed off.

The masses hold unprecedented power, but it never gets used through lack of co-ordination. If everybody in the USA boycotted Walmart for one week, they'd have severe cashflow problems, same for Tesco in the UK. If everyone with a particular bank withdrew all their funds and deposited them elsewhere, that would cause severe problems.

Then they might listen, but it would need at least a 90% public response which would not happen. In any case, where does protest stop and anarchy begin? There is aften a thin line between civil disobedience and law breaking. As we might be about to see at Dale Farm.

99% is well ...

A company is hired to clean the park every night. Now they can't. Wonder how many workers have been laid off because the park isn't getting cleaned.

Really Gary? That's your argument?

How about the fact that the protesters put raised funds together to pay for the park cleaning themselves?

I also am pretty sure that you are not one of the 1%, so I don't understand why you think the protesters aren't on your side.

Gary, I've seen you comment on fiduciary duty a few times, and am wondering what it is about this duty that is blameworthy?

Gary,

I've also seen your reference to fiduciary duty and the laws of the United States, but I've searched quite extensively and not been able to find any evidence to support your definition of fiduciary duty.

Which law or laws in the US are you referring to?
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Gary, Fudiciary duty is not the problem. That is a fair and reasonable expectation.

The problem is that corporate fat cats have decided to reward themselves by creating short term "profits" by destroying people, lives, the companies reputation in order to line their own pockets at the expense of shareholders.

There is nothing to indicate that the financial well being of a company can ONLY be measured by this quarters statements. The name recognition, values shown, world consciousness, reputation, are all significant values to each corporation.

Gary,

I've also seen your reference to fiduciary duty and the laws of the United States, but I've searched quite extensively and not been able to find any evidence to support your definition of fiduciary duty.

Which law or laws in the US are you referring to?

There is a Duty of Care in both the USA and the UK.

Duty of Care

Back to the thread title, we have a sad situation in London. There are 300 protesters camped out in the graveyard of St Pauls Cathedral, who are refusing to leave. We now have a safety issue, so the Cathedral has been shut losing £22,000 a day in revenue.

No doubt they are happy in bringing publicity to their cause, but I would rather see a bank or business shut down than the Cathedral. Godammit, it survived the Blitz in WWII, now a bunch of nerdy chinless wonders have managed what Hitler couldn't.

And I bet most of them are professional protesters who don't care about the cause, just as long as they can make hassle for the authorities. Now that Dale Farm is over they have to find something to do. If I had my way, I'd hose them all down with 500 gallons of raw sewage.

St Pauls

Back to the thread title, we have a sad situation in London. There are 300 protesters camped out in the graveyard of St Pauls Cathedral, who are refusing to leave. We now have a safety issue, so the Cathedral has been shut losing £22,000 a day in revenue.

No doubt they are happy in bringing publicity to their cause, but I would rather see a bank or business shut down than the Cathedral. Godammit, it survived the Blitz in WWII, now a bunch of nerdy chinless wonders have managed what Hitler couldn't.

And I bet most of them are professional protesters who don't care about the cause, just as long as they can make hassle for the authorities. Now that Dale Farm is over they have to find something to do. If I had my way, I'd hose them all down with 500 gallons of raw sewage.

St Pauls

But the protesters claim they have tried to answer such concerns, reorganising their camp "in response to feedback from the fire brigade".

OccupyLSX said in a statement they had been working "to accommodate the cathedral's concerns in any way we can".

Surrender of St Paul's: Protest rabble force the cathedral to close, a feat that Hitler could barely manage

Well done ES, 7/10, not bad. Actually as I have said before, I am getting disappointed with the Mail, over the last year is is not a patch on the incisive paper it once was :-(

And I will say, that the post I made about Hitler, was BEFORE I had seen the Mail article about it. Those words came direct from me, and from nowhere else. The fact that Mail appears to agree is coincedental.

I support the Occupy movement wholeheartedly, these big businesses, banks, and financial institutions need to get it through their thick heads, that the man in the street, or the Clapham Omnibus, won't put up with being exploited any more in this way.

But using a soft target like St. Pauls is out of order, and has to stop. I therfore stand by my comments about the slurry treatment. Shut down any bank you like including the Bank of England if you want, but leave the Cathedral alone.

Well done ES, 7/10, not bad. Actually as I have said before, I am getting disappointed with the Mail, over the last year is is not a patch on the incisive paper it once was :-(

And I will say, that the post I made about Hitler, was BEFORE I had seen the Mail article about it. Those words came direct from me, and from nowhere else. The fact that Mail appears to agree is coincedental.

I support the Occupy movement wholeheartedly, these big businesses, banks, and financial institutions need to get it through their thick heads, that the man in the street, or the Clapham Omnibus, won't put up with being exploited any more in this way.

But using a soft target like St. Pauls is out of order, and has to stop. I therfore stand by my comments about the slurry treatment. Shut down any bank you like including the Bank of England if you want, but leave the Cathedral alone.