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Message 1171779 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 0:09:27 UTC - in response to Message 1171706.

I wonder if the Southern Euro zone countries (Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal) will grab a clue and 'partial default' by creating a 'southern euro' -- at about 60% of the northern Euro. I figure that would help their economies and competitiveness. Right now, at Euro rates, these four markets can't compete on the world market with goods and services.

And in its way, Germany is now working to make things a bit worse for these countries by trying to pull educated, skilled, and younger folks from those countries into Germany for work.



If Greece had any sense or say in the matter they would default on the debt and leave the European union.


Message 1171795 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 1:24:36 UTC

I see The Occupy Movement has decided Their Job and Purpose is not to Enlighten The World of Government and Corporate Greed/Corruption, but to Be Arrested for The Sole Purpose of Pissing off The Police/Authorities.

Thank Goodness there are Plenty of Laws for them to break and plenty of Police to arrest them.

It is Good to have Full Time Work.

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Message 1171810 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 2:55:48 UTC - in response to Message 1171795.

reminder: the 99%ers have no agenda and no leaders. Soooo, Civil disobedience at times is a good thing.

BTW the company I work for was bought up by McKesson. The McKesson CEO is now the #1 compensated CEO in the US. He receives $133 million in cash and stock options every year for doing nothing more than dressing up for a few hours a day and making it look like he's the genius that made the corporation #7 on forbe top corporation list.
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Message 1171842 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 5:01:22 UTC - in response to Message 1171706.

The main problem with Occupy is that they seem to want to destroy their own movement. They have major health issues (as in nastiness..), and they seem to like to rape/murder their own. It's being targeted from within by sicko's who don't actually want to protest anything, but cause as much trouble as possible.

Besides all that, the seem to miss the whole point about how wealth distribution and killing capitalism won't work in a country this large. Look at Europe.. I know! They should all just move to Europe and get a taste of how awesome their ideas are. I vote to send them to Greece for 3 months.

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If Greece had any sense or say in the matter they would default on the debt and leave the European union.

I am not sure how your comments about destruction of Capitalism and what is going on in Europe are linked. Could you explain in a little more detail please?



Sure. Occupy doesn't like Capitalism at all. The European model is basically a Nanny state. This is what the Occupy movement in the end wants. The rich paying the way of the poor. I don't mean all European countries, but the vast majority of them. It turns the people into basically children on a teat. Look at what happened in France when they raised the retirement age from like 60-62. People went nuts in the streets because they are so used to entitlements. People do not like to see change in any way when this is what they are used to.

Capitalism prevents this sort of thing. Socialism condones it. You cannot take from the few (Rich, job creators) and give to the many (everyone else). In the US we are all afforded the same opportunities. Some of us make it, some do not. I personally haven't. However that being said, there will never be the day I am marching like an idiot with the Occupiers who want to take what they have not earned. You may not agree with me, and that is fine. That's the great thing about human beings. We have free will to believe and state what we wish. :D

Best sign I've seen at an Occupiers rally: Get a job and Occupy a DESK! Of course that was a counter-protester. Lol

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Message 1171846 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 5:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 1171842.

Completely OT, possible server bug or data corruption.
Reading the forum on the left it says Terry Long has 9 posts. Click on his user name link and there it says he has 8 posts. Clicking on that link and it lists 9 posts.
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Message 1171848 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 5:37:15 UTC - in response to Message 1171846.
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Completely OT, possible server bug or data corruption.
Reading the forum on the left it says Terry Long has 9 posts. Click on his user name link and there it says he has 8 posts. Clicking on that link and it lists 9 posts.


I totally blame the aliens on Wall St. I warned everyone this would happen. :D

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*EDIT* My total post # is 10. Dunno why there are errors. Damn Aliens.

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Message 1171849 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 5:39:32 UTC - in response to Message 1171795.

Dull, perhaps they saw the hopelessness of enlightening folks such as yourself, and in despair opted for being arrested. <g>

I see The Occupy Movement has decided Their Job and Purpose is not to Enlighten The World of Government and Corporate Greed/Corruption, but to Be Arrested for The Sole Purpose of Pissing off The Police/Authorities.


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Message 1171850 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 5:41:16 UTC - in response to Message 1171842.

Indeed they should, I am so glad that we don't have sustained high unemployment so they all can get a job easily. Oh wait....


Best sign I've seen at an Occupiers rally: Get a job and Occupy a DESK! Of course that was a counter-protester. Lol

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Message 1171852 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 6:06:30 UTC - in response to Message 1171850.

Indeed they should, I am so glad that we don't have sustained high unemployment so they all can get a job easily. Oh wait....


Best sign I've seen at an Occupiers rally: Get a job and Occupy a DESK! Of course that was a counter-protester. Lol

Terry



You think it's going to help them get a job if they sit in a park for 2 months holding signs, shooting up, murdering, raping, and generally being pricks? Probably not.

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Message 1171918 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 14:57:54 UTC - in response to Message 1171852.

Indeed they should, I am so glad that we don't have sustained high unemployment so they all can get a job easily. Oh wait....


Best sign I've seen at an Occupiers rally: Get a job and Occupy a DESK! Of course that was a counter-protester. Lol

Terry



You think it's going to help them get a job if they sit in a park for 2 months holding signs, shooting up, murdering, raping, and generally being pricks? Probably not.

Terry

HR: Why do you have an arrest and conviction?

OWS: Because I was protesting against you ...

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Message 1171963 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 18:23:55 UTC

This 84 year old woman being interviewed also represents the Occupy movement. She was pepper sprayed by the Seattle police and is one of those "punk kids" out on the street.

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Message 1171964 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 18:27:27 UTC - in response to Message 1171852.

True enough, especially if these are two strikes folks, long term unemployed (there are a LOT of them now), plus unwilling to work minimum wage in order to maximize corporate profit.

I do find it interesting the number of folks in flat out dismissive mode regarding the issues OWS has tried to bring to the table. It is a level of denial that suggests thinking similar to the 18th century royalty of France.




You think it's going to help them get a job if they sit in a park for 2 months holding signs, shooting up, murdering, raping, and generally being pricks? Probably not.

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Message 1171965 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 18:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 1171918.

True if they would be trying to get employed by one of the large wealthy, offshore employing corporations. That's probably a, shall we say, foreclosed choice for most of OWS folks.

I suspect you know that, but might be having a Dullish moment. <smile>



HR: Why do you have an arrest and conviction?

OWS: Because I was protesting against you ...

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Message 1172132 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 7:38:46 UTC - in response to Message 1171964.

True enough, especially if these are two strikes folks, long term unemployed (there are a LOT of them now), plus unwilling to work minimum wage in order to maximize corporate profit.

I do find it interesting the number of folks in flat out dismissive mode regarding the issues OWS has tried to bring to the table. It is a level of denial that suggests thinking similar to the 18th century royalty of France.



I certainly see the same attitude that you see...and can't help thinking how badly it ended for them.

I wonder if the American public will show as little tolerance for it as the citizen's of France did.
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Message 1172182 - Posted: 19 Nov 2011, 14:27:28 UTC - in response to Message 1171964.

I have no issue saying that some of the reasoning OWS has to protest is legitimate. I've said that since it started. It's the way they have went about it that is actually not correct. You don't set up tent cities in public places. If the government had them do that it would be called a Concentration Camp. The health issues, crime rate, things such as that have hurt their own cause. I'll never believe that the rich should pay the poor's way. Doing so would finish this country off. Of course then I suppose Mr. President would be happy....

Wall St. is full of corruption, it always has been, I'll not say any differently. It is a real reason to go out and protest. However... So is the government in general. If they wanted to effect real change they would have been protesting in the beginning in Washington, DC. I honestly believe Wall St should be closely monitored, however that being said, the amount of regulation actually kills SMALL businesses. Those businesses are the backbone of the entire country. The majority of all jobs in the US are at small businesses. All the regulation has people not willing to start one anymore, and those that have one would rather shut it down than keep losing money.

There is a better, safer way to protest than how they have went at this. It hasn't been organized enough. I've never seen a protest in all my life that actually need to police it's own people to this extent. However it isn't the worst.. Someone should have driven a CAR through the Westboro Baptist Church protests at some point. I've seen some call OWS the most hateful bunch of protesters in US history.

Now I'm not supporting how they've went about doing the OWS protests, they've clouded their own purpose by how they've done it. However Westboro are the biggest bunch of idiots we've ever had protest, besides maybe KKK/racist protests in general (yes this includes the Black Panthers, two groups of idiots don't make a right..).

In closing, whether I believe it to be right or wrong (in it's entirety..), OWS has a legitimate reason to protest, but not all of their reasons (or what they want) are correct. Some of them are Anarchists, lazy as hell, drug users, or just don't know why they are there. They are however correct about Wall St. being crooked. This won't change the minds of any die-hard supporters of it, and it wasn't meant to. Thanks for your time. :D

Terry

Message 1173337 - Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 21:54:59 UTC

Love The Octopus Movements New Motto: We are NOT anti-capitalist, just anti-crapitalist

CRAPitalist. You Gots To Love It. Still, when one is in Their Camp, what The Heck is That Smell?

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Message 1173340 - Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 22:01:40 UTC - in response to Message 1173337.

Heck Dull, an epithet tosser such as yourself, I would expect you would love this sort of linguistic manipulation.


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Message 1175921 - Posted: 5 Dec 2011, 19:46:14 UTC

If you can't beat them, join them!

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/occupier-gets-wall-street-job-165758406.html

Tracy Postert no longer has to answer to cries of “Get a job!” from people who passed by the Occupy Wall Street protest.

I used to say, “I’m trying!” she told ABCNews.com. Postert doesn’t have to try any longer.

The New York City woman, who split her time between Occupy Wall Street and having her “nose in the computer looking for work,” now has a job, thanks to a little marketing savvy and an executive who happened to pass by at just the right time.

Armed with 800 copies of her resume, Postert held a sign that read: “Ph.D. Biomedical Scientist Seeking Full Time Employment.”

Although Postert was looking for work in academia, she had all but given up.

Her sign caught the eye of Wayne Kaufman, the chief market analyst for John Thomas Financial Brokerage — a firm with a prime Wall Street address.

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Message 1175993 - Posted: 6 Dec 2011, 2:35:24 UTC - in response to Message 1175921.

Indeed, all Wall Street has to do is hire 8 Million more at Wall Street wages -- it's a start.

If you can't beat them, join them!

Message 1177574 - Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 20:09:05 UTC

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Who are The Dock Racketeers now?

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