If the Giza pyramids were built by Alien.

Since I am obviously part of the first category

Really? What gave you that idea? That was a general comment. Maybe the cap fits though? From my experience those who want to believe that no ET ever visited earth would be devastated to find out they did. It would undermine everything they believe.

You're indicating that you're a bunch of lunatics looking for "possibilities" without evidence or proof.

Oh c'mon now, you know better than that, you do yourself an injustice. We as "a bunch" as you colloquially term it, are prepared to take serious suggestions and look into it further. If upon examination there is no eveidence to support it, then it is discarded.

I am not compromised at all, only in your view. But we are going round in circles here. Do you honestly think that if there was any cast iron, irrefutable scientific evidence that ET had been here before, and therefore exists, that it would be released to the general public?

Ozzfan,
Some day in the future, when me and Chris S are sitting in heaven beside the Lord God enjoying ourselves, sipping drinks and chatting about ancient alien theory, we will have a good laugh together reading back over the messages we shared on these forums. We will be laughing at you Ozzfan for not having just a little faith! Just enough faith to go investigate the true facts!

While thats happening Ozzfan, you and Richard Dawkins and your other atheist followers will be arguing with each other over who's fault it is that nobody bothered to actually investigate if there really was a God. It will be sheer hell for you guys that you never made it into heaven.

John.
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Ozzfan,
Some day in the future, when me and Chris S are sitting in heaven beside the Lord God ...

Actually a group of Ravens is called "Unkindness" of Ravens.

Some day in the future, when me and Chris S are sitting in heaven beside the Lord God ...

But it is also true to say, that there there is no provable scientific evidence that it didn't happen.

Take the church, 88% of the worlds population, 6.2 billion, currently follow and worship a religion. Yet not a single one of them have a shred of scientific proof or evidence that their god, or gods, ever did or do exist, or that there is a heaven or afterlife. Putting to one side upbringing, local custom, coercion, why do they do that?

Because they simply choose to believe in something, even though there is no evidence. Try standing outside a church on Sunday holding a placard that says "I ain't going in until you prove there is a god" I can just imagine the responses you'll get. And it's no different here. Some of us don't need cold hard scientific proof to believe in something.

Ozzfan,
Some day in the future, when me and Chris S are sitting in heaven beside the Lord God enjoying ourselves, sipping drinks and chatting about ancient alien theory, we will have a good laugh together reading back over the messages we shared on these forums. We will be laughing at you Ozzfan for not having just a little faith! Just enough faith to go investigate the true facts!

While thats happening Ozzfan, you and Richard Dawkins and your other atheist followers will be arguing with each other over who's fault it is that nobody bothered to actually investigate if there really was a God. It will be sheer hell for you guys that you never made it into heaven.

John.

but if you want the rest of us who do require cold, hard scientific proof to believe, or you want us to agree with your conclusions, you'll need to back up your claim

Chances are, you nor Chris will be laughing when you're dead. You'll simply be dead.

(and I seriously doubt the other Atheists will be arguing about it as well)

what's the point of blathering opinions and beliefs?

After all, if the deity exists, it is up to them to make themselves known, not to keep everyone guessing about his/her/their existence.

but if you want the rest of us who do require cold, hard scientific proof to believe, or you want us to agree with your conclusions, you'll need to back up your claim

I am not asking you to agree, I would just like you to accept that the belief or conclusions that I and others may have come to, have as much validity as your own. Seeing as neither of us can bring forward irrefutable proof one way or the other, and are rather unlikely to, that seems to me to be an equitable way forward.

Aha! Now we have your corner.

After all, if the deity exists, it is up to them to make themselves known, not to keep everyone guessing about his/her/their existence.

Excuse me, why? If you were God Almighty and all powerful, why would you bother, you could please yourself. Wanns expand upon that one?

I always thought the hieroglyphics image below was rather interesting. It looks like there is a sub, plane and a helicopter.

You've heard of a Rorschach test, right? The viewer sees what they want to see out of the images, but it doesn't necessarily mean that's what the creator/artist meant to show, if anything was meant to be shown at all.

I would also be highly cautious and skeptical of any "internet" modifications of the original image so as to unscientifically change the evidence to favor one theory. Until I see an actual image of the original picture, I hesitate to make judgement on what it is I'm supposed to be seeing in the picture.

Ozz my friend, I agree and support your arguments, but you are totally wasting your time. Rational thought and critical thinking has left the building :(

Ozz my friend, I agree and support your arguments, but you are totally wasting your time. Rational thought and critical thinking has left the building :(

+1

(FWIW)

Going by the strict title of this thread +3 because they weren't.

Going by rational thought and critical thinking has left the building -1

p.s. the image at the bottom of that frieze is definitely the batmobile, no doubt about it :-)

p.s. the image at the bottom of that frieze is definitely the batmobile, no doubt about it :-)

Looks like a wood plane to me -- oh I said plane didn't I?

You want planes, we got planes ....

Planes

Sorry, my previous link got borked.

Plane

Let's start a new project STI,(Search for Terrestrial Intelligence).

And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!

So after a good long discussion in this thread, i suppose we can summarise the discussion with the following points;

1. We seem to have proven conclusively that Aliens built the pyramids at Giza.

2. We seem to have conclusive proof that aliens did in-fact visit earth in ancient history.

3. We have proved beyond all doubt that God did in-fact create all the animals, plants and beasts on the earth. And us humans too!

4. We proved Ozzfan is a cranky person who idolises Charles Darwin and Richard Dawkins.

5. We proved Heaven does actually exist, beyond all doubt!

So this was a good productive discussion guys!! "Good job you guys!" as the Americans would say.

John.
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Are you really that childish Johnney?