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Message 1157321 - Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 1:41:39 UTC
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o20HOa-Z_U

Russian astronaut Vladimir Kovalyonok claims ufo encounters twice during his flight. And other other russian airforce and ICBM ufo encounters documented.

But unusually this is posted on russian space agency channel so NASA give up already!! ;D

The documentary in the beginning is saying that videos included were declassified voyonnii sekret/military secret.
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Message 1157445 - Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 13:45:21 UTC
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So few years ago french space agency gave up on ufo then uk agency followed suit. Today the very russian agency is giving it up. It is becoming more clear that NASA's position is getting even more ridicule as its counterparts or competitors already showing the example.

I mean NASA is really a joke nothing different than Kim Jong Ils propaganda machine that forcedly rejecting the reality. Oops they are both Agencies.
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Message 1157466 - Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 15:20:21 UTC
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Watch carefully at 29min30sec. really juicy!

Those archival videos showing men in military uniforms in class rooms are actual declassified videos that russian airforce trained jet fighter pilots with advanced level of hypnosis methods so their pilots possibly have strengthened mental states during the extreme conditions which one include encountering ufo's.

And in many parts it is saying that russian military conducted tons of telepathy experiments and stuffs to extract higher level of information allegedly from aliens or parallel universe.

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Maybe somepeople watched before that one declassified KGB video showed that during 60s-70s KGB were closely working on telekenitic energy possibilities. (I'll try to find that from youtube knowledge ocean)

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Come on!! It is NASA's turn??!!
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Message 1158351 - Posted: 2 Oct 2011, 20:15:18 UTC
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Orgil,
The video is in Russian. But i get the point your making!! The Russian's are as bad as the American's with their secret military programs. Only God knows what money they spend on secret research.

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Message 1158356 - Posted: 2 Oct 2011, 20:36:06 UTC - in response to Message 1158351.

Yeah, and the American government is also responsible for all the missing persons in the world. They hide them away and use them as part of their research and experiments.

Making conjecture is not akin to fact.

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Message 1158781 - Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 11:54:12 UTC - in response to Message 1158356.
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Yeah, and the American government is also responsible for all the missing persons in the world. They hide them away and use them as part of their research and experiments.

Making conjecture is not akin to fact.


Yes ozzf4 is the fine example of chip implanted another MIB victim. ;)

I'd say both americans and russians conducted really dangerous experiments and researches during and post cold war eras. Because only these two military forces have tens of billions of dollars to play any scale of war games or militaristic projects.
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Message 1158791 - Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 12:15:10 UTC - in response to Message 1158781.

Yeah, and the American government is also responsible for all the missing persons in the world. They hide them away and use them as part of their research and experiments.

Making conjecture is not akin to fact.


Yes ozzf4 is the fine example of chip implanted another MIB victim. ;)


More like the only sane one that doesn't believe in government conspiracies and coverups.

I'd say both americans and russians conducted really dangerous experiments and researches during and post cold war eras. Because only these two military forces have tens of billions of dollars to play any scale of war games or militaristic projects.


They probably did conduct research and experiments. Its only natural to want to observe and discover. But I doubt the things they experimented on or discovered are even close to what you're suggesting. ;)

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Message 1158806 - Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 13:25:44 UTC
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Probably have you seen some Utah guy's blog that revealed some russian nuclear waste lake which after posting that article numerous russian hackers attacked his blog yet he managed to restore his blog all the time from Utah USA. Happened 3 years ago.

What most amazing is in the last 3 years numerous times serous american retired military officers revealed ufo encountering stuffs at the National press club at their capital. If they were really insane people then general mental health of american public really gotten out of control or if they were serous then all above russian claims are dead serous. This is the only thin red line on this issue. That is why I am bravely calling NASA as Kim Jon Il level brain washer organization.
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Message 1158808 - Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 13:31:38 UTC - in response to Message 1158806.

Probably have you seen some Utah guy's blog that revealed some russian nuclear waste lake which after posting that article numerous russian hackers attacked his blog yet he managed to restore his blog all the time from Utah USA. Happened 3 years ago.


Unsurprising that they would want to cover up such a major embarrassment like dumping nuclear waste.

What most amazing is in the last 3 years numerous times serous american retired military officers revealed ufo encountering stuffs at the National press club at their capital. If they were really insane people then general mental health of american public really gotten out of control or if they were serous then all above russian claims are dead serous. This is the only thin red line on this issue.


No, I don't think they're crazy at all. Lots of people see things they can't explain. That doesn't mean there isn't a logical explanation for what they say. Its the same as people who see the Virgin Mary in an image burnt into a piece of toast; they're not crazy. They simply lack the sophistication or critical thinking skills to determine the cause and effect of what they saw.

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Message 1158810 - Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 13:37:30 UTC
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And you are forgetting that so called critical thinking skills has its own limits.

UK and French Space agencies all could not have forced lower critical thinking skills than average american professional.

What NASA is doing is blindly denying everything exactly like North Korean brain washing style yet just an ocean away 2 similar organizations already accepted the reality.

Historically UK & French would have opposite opinions on every nit picking things you can imagine yet on this subject they have unusually same opinion which makes things even more interesting.
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Message 1158819 - Posted: 4 Oct 2011, 14:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 1158810.
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Sure, critical thinking has limits, but its better than assuming and jumping to conclusions.

There has also been a lot of studies done on pilots in vehicles of great speed. Lots of psychological side effects can occur after long periods of time in the air or in space. Just because someone thought they saw something, and would testify under oath that they saw something, doesn't mean they really did. This is why eye witnesses are considered the worst of scientific evidence.

The problem with NASA releasing incomplete research that was under government control (and thus, not peer-reviewed by nature under the guise of national security interests) is that people would unfortunately be free to interpret whatever they want to conclude out of the documents... much like they do with the Holy Bible.

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