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Message 1150134 - Posted: 8 Sep 2011, 17:44:51 UTC

Hopefully 9/11 will have in some way have helped to make all humanity stronger, and all the reasons behind it will have helped to make us wiser, and finally may it all have helped to allow us to be happier.
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Message 1150145 - Posted: 8 Sep 2011, 18:45:32 UTC


Although it happened on American soil, it must not be forgotten that nationals from around the world also perished.
The attack was aimed at America, but many other countries also suffered from this attack.

    # 1 United States: 2,902

    # 2 United Kingdom: 67

    # 3 Japan: 23

    # 4 Colombia: 17

    # 5 Jamaica: 16

    = 6 Philippines: 15

    = 6 Mexico: 15

    # 8 Germany: 6

    = 9 Peru: 5

    = 9 Canada: 5

    = 11 Italy: 4

    = 11 Australia: 4

    = 13 Guyana: 3

    = 13 Brazil: 3

    = 13 Ecuador: 3

    = 13 Lebanon: 3

    = 13 Portugal: 3

    = 18 Ghana: 2

    = 18 Congo, Democratic Republic of the: 2

    = 18 China: 2

    = 18 Israel: 2

    = 18 Haiti: 2

    = 23 Taiwan: 1

    = 23 Belgium: 1

    = 23 Moldova: 1

    = 23 Dominican Republic: 1

    = 23 Bermuda: 1

    = 23 Ireland: 1

    = 23 Russia: 1

    = 23 El Salvador: 1

    = 23 Uzbekistan: 1

    = 23 France: 1

    = 23 Lithuania: 1

    = 23 Honduras: 1

    = 23 Nigeria: 1

    = 23 Indonesia: 1

    = 23 Sweden: 1

    = 23 India: 1

    = 23 Ukraine: 1

    = 23 Côte d'Ivoire: 1

    = 23 Venezuela: 1

    Total: 3,123


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Message 1150286 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 2:14:00 UTC - in response to Message 1150104.

"Remembering" isn't simply having been there and experiencing the full pain.

"Forgetting" isn't simply marking a date on a calendar that's largely unimportant.


Remembering is knowing that it happened, and not forgetting is knowing what caused it and how we can prevent it in the future.


This goes for all "special" dates including 9/11.


While I don't want future generations to ever experience something like 9/11, and they will probably not know the full emotional impact of the date, I don't mind that they don't know the full emotional impact so long as they learn what happened and that it was wrong.

I can agree with that.


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Message 1150287 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 2:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 1150062.

Problem is, Will future generations eventually forget?

Not if the firefighters, police, and veterans have anything to say about it.

Eventually, to future generations 9/11 will fade. How many of us really understand some event from about a thousand years ago. Perhaps 1066?


John brings up a good point. In the US, Ask any high school kid what the dates 7 December 1941 or the 6th of June 1944 mean. You will more than likely get blank stares. Im 59 and well remember when both dates were brought up in the headlines in papers and on the national news alot. Fast forward to today. They get maybe a blurb in passing interest.

Those of us alive who can remember will never forget. In 3 generations it will be a footnote in a history book. And if history is a guide they will have their own bad memories.

I just asked a high school student. One of the two right, and the 20th century is the topic for history class this year. I expect the other will be learned by the end of the year. Pearl harbor was correct, but D-Day was confused with Hiroshima.


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Message 1150294 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 2:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 1150287.

Problem is, Will future generations eventually forget?

Not if the firefighters, police, and veterans have anything to say about it.

Eventually, to future generations 9/11 will fade. How many of us really understand some event from about a thousand years ago. Perhaps 1066?


John brings up a good point. In the US, Ask any high school kid what the dates 7 December 1941 or the 6th of June 1944 mean. You will more than likely get blank stares. Im 59 and well remember when both dates were brought up in the headlines in papers and on the national news a lot. Fast forward to today. They get maybe a blurb in passing interest.

Those of us alive who can remember will never forget. In 3 generations it will be a footnote in a history book. And if history is a guide they will have their own bad memories.

I just asked a high school student. One of the two right, and the 20th century is the topic for history class this year. I expect the other will be learned by the end of the year. Pearl harbor was correct, but D-Day was confused with Hiroshima.

My Niece was born in Nagasaki Prefecture Japan, Nearer to Sasebo, My Brother was stationed there while He was in the US Navy along with His Wife, They didn't know the A-Bomb had been dropped in that area of Japan, at least not until I told them a few years later.
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Message 1150297 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 3:04:05 UTC - in response to Message 1150294.

Problem is, Will future generations eventually forget?

Not if the firefighters, police, and veterans have anything to say about it.

Eventually, to future generations 9/11 will fade. How many of us really understand some event from about a thousand years ago. Perhaps 1066?


John brings up a good point. In the US, Ask any high school kid what the dates 7 December 1941 or the 6th of June 1944 mean. You will more than likely get blank stares. Im 59 and well remember when both dates were brought up in the headlines in papers and on the national news a lot. Fast forward to today. They get maybe a blurb in passing interest.

Those of us alive who can remember will never forget. In 3 generations it will be a footnote in a history book. And if history is a guide they will have their own bad memories.

I just asked a high school student. One of the two right, and the 20th century is the topic for history class this year. I expect the other will be learned by the end of the year. Pearl harbor was correct, but D-Day was confused with Hiroshima.

My Niece was born in Nagasaki Prefecture Japan, Nearer to Sasebo, My Brother was stationed there while He was in the US Navy along with His Wife, They didn't know the A-Bomb had been dropped in that area of Japan, at least not until I told them a few years later.

He was in the military and did not know the names of the two cities that had nuclear weapons dropped on them?


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Message 1150313 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 3:28:51 UTC - in response to Message 1150297.
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Most likely he means the kids.......
I have met lots of Japanese people who don’t seem to know a whole lot about the war.


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Message 1150315 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 3:32:13 UTC - in response to Message 1150313.

Most likely he means the kids.......
I have met lots of Japanese people who don’t seem to know a whole lot about the war.

It is embarrassing to them now, and they would rather not talk about it...


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Message 1150317 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 3:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 1150297.

Problem is, Will future generations eventually forget?

Not if the firefighters, police, and veterans have anything to say about it.

Eventually, to future generations 9/11 will fade. How many of us really understand some event from about a thousand years ago. Perhaps 1066?


John brings up a good point. In the US, Ask any high school kid what the dates 7 December 1941 or the 6th of June 1944 mean. You will more than likely get blank stares. Im 59 and well remember when both dates were brought up in the headlines in papers and on the national news a lot. Fast forward to today. They get maybe a blurb in passing interest.

Those of us alive who can remember will never forget. In 3 generations it will be a footnote in a history book. And if history is a guide they will have their own bad memories.

I just asked a high school student. One of the two right, and the 20th century is the topic for history class this year. I expect the other will be learned by the end of the year. Pearl harbor was correct, but D-Day was confused with Hiroshima.

My Niece was born in Nagasaki Prefecture Japan, Nearer to Sasebo, My Brother was stationed there while He was in the US Navy along with His Wife, They didn't know the A-Bomb had been dropped in that area of Japan, at least not until I told them a few years later.

He was in the military and did not know the names of the two cities that had nuclear weapons dropped on them?

Yep, From 1962-1982, He'd been in a car wreck before joining the Navy and that forced Him to take notes cause of short term memory problems, He was lucky He wasn't belted in as the car roof had caved in, otherwise He would have been dead He said. History wasn't a requirement for enlistment, He just didn't want to go to Vietnam He said. But He did get the right to wear gold stripes and hash marks instead of the normal Red ones, But He never wore the Gold as He just wanted to be one of the guys, He only retired as there were no Diesel Engined Ships anymore, He had to take any duty just to get to 20 years.
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Message 1151036 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 3:04:20 UTC

As we're on the eve of 10 years ago I thought a tribute to the fallen hero's, and also to the living... I thought I'd share this.

A Special 9/11 Tribute To The Man In The Red Bandana




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Message 1151081 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 11:35:16 UTC


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Message 1151185 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 18:26:37 UTC
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As the USA remebers

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The UK also remembers ....

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Message 1151195 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 18:55:59 UTC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3eQmzw6n3k&feature=share

A respectful video from the company; apparently, they only ran it once so as not to profit from it.


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Message 1151255 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 21:53:59 UTC - in response to Message 1148488.

Perps, you can hide, you can run, but we are coming for you. And in the years hence, we have found and taken down most of you.
Think again before you wake the Great Eagle.

Bless our American cousins. I remember when it happened. It broke my heart to see it.
Dont forget, big `ole Eagle, there is a Lion behind you.
Bless you all on your day of rememberence.


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Message 1151284 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 23:53:15 UTC

The attack on the World Trade Center in New York was an attack on the whole world, although Americans bore the brunt. I've watched some of the (excellent) CNN coverage and join the prayers which have been offered.

I have a particular reason to feel involved with the victims: my name (except for middle initials) appears twice on the memorial: Michael Roberts (Ladder Company 35, Engine Company 214).

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Message 1151339 - Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 5:41:39 UTC - in response to Message 1151331.
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With blind hatred they struck...Leaving thousands dead...And millions more in mourning...Now we have seen the results of their hatred for us...And they have seen the results of our response...I hope that someday we can end this cycle of destruction...And that the nations of the Earth can put their resources to use in ways that will make life better...for all people...

We must remember the lives lost on 911...And we also must remember those who have died avenging them...May their sacrifices someday lead to a better and more peaceful world.

We also need to not paint with a broad brush, that all Muslims are bad, only a few Muslims are, just as in WWII those Americans of Japanese descent were not bad people, nor were their cousins overseas, the ones here had nothing to do with the Japanese Government, nor loyalty to It, but then the laws then were racist in their intent and The US has a ways to go to redeem Itself of the racist baggage so that this won't happen to others. My background is of Irish/French/English ethnicity and I do know the Irish were treated badly as racism was at work and some were racist too, I myself am not of course, as everyone is Human, hate is wrong, being different is not bad, It's just that We are all unique.
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Message 1151341 - Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 5:53:40 UTC

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On that day 20 years ago, I had the day off from work. I had plans to go and pick up some paperwork from another county regarding a child custody case.
I awoke to the news on the television, with disturbingly controlled voices such as the anchors use when something really bad is going on. I watched as the second plane hit the tower, proceeded to get dressed and on the road for 100 mile journey(each way) to the courthouse. When I arrived, I was searched outside of it, allowed to enter, then told they were closed.

They were not without compassion though, they handed me the papework, saying they could not accept payment that day. But I never can forgive my ex, that I could not wrap my arms around my children that day.

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Message 1151344 - Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 6:01:24 UTC - in response to Message 1151341.
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9/11/2001 was 10 years ago soft^spirit, I hope that was what You meant.


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Message 1151345 - Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 6:07:12 UTC

Vic, the title is 9/11/2011 that is today. Soft had a bad experience on 9/11, just earlier.


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Message 1151346 - Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 6:23:16 UTC - in response to Message 1151345.

Vic, the title is 9/11/2011 that is today. Soft had a bad experience on 9/11, just earlier.

I'm not about to ask about that, I didn't want to stir up bad memories. :o
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