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Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Hello community! Since a longer time S@h have a problem with a router. Some members can't connect to the S@h server. The most members can connect. It's possible that they help the other? Just an idea.. The member which can connect would make his PC to a proxy server. He need a domain or static IP address, also a permanent connection - AFAIK. Then other members could reach over this PC/proxy server the S@h server. If someone can't connect, this person post here. Other members which would like to help/have a proxy server post also here. Or if a member would like to help anonymous, he send a private message to this person. If wanted, during the proxy usage an ID and PIN could be given, after the ID will be deleted. It depend of how long the member use the proxy server, he calculate a certain time after the usage with help of the owners weak account key S@h WUs. So he pay with S@h-Cr. for the usage. Maybe one week usage, one day calculation of S@h WUs. Or two weeks/one day S@h WUs. How much CPU time is used during proxy work? It looks like that the full account key is sent during scheduler contact (request/report). So the member should use a weak account key during usage of the proxy server. How I could change from full to weak? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/weak_auth.php Stop BOINC. E.g. I rename the present account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file to account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.old and make a new account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file only with the mentioned entries? Start BOINC again. And it's done? Would be all this safe for the members? The member which make a proxy server and the member which use it? How could a member make the own PC to a proxy server? What you think about this idea? - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. - |
Paul D Harris Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 1122 Credit: 33,600,005 RAC: 0 |
Sutartu and I are trying to use my web server as a proxy server so he can upload his wu’s he has tried but has failed said http file not found so how do I go about setting it up so he can up load his wu? Would be willing to let other members also use if some one would tell me how because I don’t know how. |
TOM Send message Joined: 5 Apr 01 Posts: 53 Credit: 65,422,234 RAC: 86 |
Proxy is a Programm or Service that needs to be installed and configured on a PC. This is commonly used on a Server like Squid on Linux or MS-Proxy on Windows- Server. I don't think that there are so much versions for a normal Windows Workstation. As a quick search i found FreeProxy. Looks like freeware and runs on windows, but i never tested it. Maybe you can install a Squid-Proxy on Linux in a VM. I will take a look at that, i have to get my kids under control if(!) we hopefully get some more bandwith. BUT(!) there are potentital security risks about doing that, because a normal Proxy is placed behind a firewall (or two) to prevent someone to access this proxy from ouside. You have to drill some holes in the firewall to get this going. AND(!) a Proxy is not a Programm that is installed like klick and here we go, there is some configuration to do. |
Paul D Harris Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 1122 Credit: 33,600,005 RAC: 0 |
Proxy is a Programm or Service that needs to be installed and configured on a PC. This is commonly used on a Server like Squid on Linux or MS-Proxy on Windows- Server. I don't think that there is a version for a normal Windows Workstation. Maybe i take a look for that, or someone has information about that. There are potentital security risks about doing that, because a normal Proxy is placed behind a firewall to prevent someone to access this proxy from ouside. You have to drill some holes in the firewall to get this going. I run iis I also have run apache. I have found how to at Microsoft but did not understand. Most applications run on inside of network for multiple LANs which don't apply here we want to share WAN not LAN. I saw where apache can be used no problem to switch to apache. I need someone to show howto. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Remember, also, that if you set up a proxy, BOINC will use it for file tansfers and scheduler requests in both directions: +----------+ (downloads) +--------+ (downloads) +------+ | SETI @ | -------------> | proxy | -------------> | your | | Berkeley | <------------- | server | <------------- | host | +----------+ (uploads) +--------+ (uploads) +------+ Some of the files (AP WUs in the download direction, scheduler requests in the upload direction) can be LARGE - several megabytes. Both of these have to leave the proxy server in the middle as uploaded data on their internet service link. I recommend anybody thinking of installing proxy software to help out this way considers the potential impact on their own internet usage (not least their legal service contract, which may impose restrictions on server-type usage). In reality, an ordinary domestic or small-office ADSL line probably doesn't have enough capacity on the upload leg to be useful in this situation - I'd recommend that only users with SDSL, T-1, or higher symmetric connections put themselves forward to offer this service. And if you're running that sort of line, you probably already know how to configure the software, and whether your connection can stand the strain. |
TOM Send message Joined: 5 Apr 01 Posts: 53 Credit: 65,422,234 RAC: 86 |
Apache and IIS are Webservers, a Proxy is a complete different thing. It works like a broker in the middle, and controls who has access to the internet. It can do some caching and it acts as a substitute for the user and chages the users IP-Adress into its own address and vice versa. This may be the reason why it works with the d***** router at HE. |
Highlander Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 167 Credit: 37,987,668 RAC: 16 |
Look here, this is a Proxy-Server Software for free: http://www.janaserver.de/ - Performance is not a simple linear function of the number of CPUs you throw at the problem. - |
Blake Bonkofsky Send message Joined: 29 Dec 99 Posts: 617 Credit: 46,383,149 RAC: 0 |
I've got a decent cable connection (10mb down, 1mb up) that I'd be willing to let a few people connect through. I wouldn't be able to host some of the power crunchers, but at minimum they could upload/report. I have an old Pentium 4 machine with WinXP that I could power back up and configure. It wouldn't be blazing fast on the downloads for new work, as my upload tops out at about 100kBps, but that's usually more than I can get from SETI anyway. My IP is not static, but it doesn't change but maybe once every few weeks. Also, DynDNS is a free dynamic DNS service that could be used as well. I have to leave for work here shortly, but I'll be back on around 4:00 UTC. I'll look into getting this setup then. |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Thanks to all. I hope we could find a work around because of/for the currently buggy S@h router. Maybe Paul and Blake will not be the only which would have the possibility for to help? BTW. I have only DSL light (384/64 kbit/s or 48/8 KB/s (DL/UL)), so noone need to worry because of the bandwidth because of my current machine (E7600 + GTX260). ;-) - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. - |
-BeNt- Send message Joined: 17 Oct 99 Posts: 1234 Credit: 10,116,112 RAC: 0 |
There are also a number of free proxy servers online. I think I gave this advice in the previous post about this matter, nobody wanted to listen then? Keep in mind there are also several applications that will host a local proxy that will aid in this. Traveling through space at ~67,000mph! |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
There are also a number of free proxy servers online. Can you please recommend one that you have found reliable ? T.A. |
Paul D Harris Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 1122 Credit: 33,600,005 RAC: 0 |
I have found 2 that work phproxy lets someone go to my domain and can use my server to visit restricted web site from work or school needs php and web server the other is freeproxy can be configured as a LAN or WAN proxy and can be monitored and cut on and off and it will upload and download wu from seti I can cut it on as needed when member to upload wu let me know and I will cut it on. Don't want to leave an open proxy because of people will use it for various reasons such as hacking or porn etc with such tool as port scanner or proxy scanner on internet I have used such tool and it will do a good job of finding open ports on venerable computer so no need to leave proxy open. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
I've got a decent cable connection (10mb down, 1mb up) that I'd be willing to let a few people connect through. ...///... A couple of words of caution. First, while your download connection speed is OK, your upload speed is rather poor for use as a proxy. For a proxy to work satisfactorily it needs to have an upload speed as fast as its download speed otherwise it will become a bottleneck. Every bit that a proxy receives is retransmitted, possible with the addition of some more routing data. Second, take a careful look at the T&Cs from your isp. A good number of them apply what they term "fair usage" limits, which are expressed in terms of Mb/time period, with ramp down in performance if this is exceeded persistently (your 10/1 link suddenly becomes 1/0.1). They may also impose rules regarding the sharing of your link with others, either physically, or virtually (by running a proxy). Just be careful, you don't want to run foul of your isp... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Paul D Harris Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 1122 Credit: 33,600,005 RAC: 0 |
I've got a decent cable connection (10mb down, 1mb up) that I'd be willing to let a few people connect through. ...///... Mine is earthlink dryloop it allows servers and no limits I have run my server for years on various ip dsl and cable the dsl I have used allowed servers and no limits as for my cable it allowed servers but did have limits. One or two people that have connect problems are ok to use just pm me. |
Paul D Harris Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 1122 Credit: 33,600,005 RAC: 0 |
I've got a decent cable connection (10mb down, 1mb up) that I'd be willing to let a few people connect through. ...///... No pm's yet so I guess every body connection is ok can't say I did'nt try to help those without. |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
I bit the bullet today and used a proxy, from the other thread on this topic. First contact with the servers in 6 days, 196 tasks uploaded but of course no downloads for now. |
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